Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

How does on legally become a slave?


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> How does on legally become a slave? Page: [1] 2 3 4 5   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
How does on legally become a slave? - 7/29/2009 6:20:13 PM   
Sub516


Posts: 2
Joined: 6/20/2005
Status: offline
I understand that slavery is illegal.  However, there must be some legal way to put on in a position of real slavery to another by some legal method.  Is a power of attorney sufficient?  What other legal documents can be put into place?

Thanks.
Profile   Post #: 1
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/29/2009 6:23:41 PM   
CelticPrince


Posts: 3613
Joined: 4/15/2005
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sub516

I understand that slavery is illegal.  However, there must be some legal way to put on in a position of real slavery to another by some legal method.  Is a power of attorney sufficient?  What other legal documents can be put into place?

Thanks.

quote:


Vanilla


sub516 None!

CP



Posts: 2
Joined: 6/20/2005
Status: online I understand that slavery is illegal. However, there must be some legal way to put on in a position of real slavery to another by some legal method. Is a power of attorney sufficient? What other legal documents can be put into place?

Thanks.

(in reply to Sub516)
Profile   Post #: 2
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/29/2009 6:28:49 PM   
RedMagic1


Posts: 6470
Joined: 5/10/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Sub516
However, there must be some legal way to put on in a position of real slavery to another by some legal method.

Not in the US, Canada, or the UK.

Why would you need this anyway?  If you want to be someone's slave, just act like their slave 24/7.  Actions are worth more than any piece of paper.


_____________________________

Not with envy, not with a twisted heart, shall you feel superior, or go about boasting. Rather in goodness by action make true your song and your word. Thus you shall be highly regarded, and able to live in peace with all others.
- 15th century Aztec

(in reply to Sub516)
Profile   Post #: 3
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/29/2009 6:35:56 PM   
tazzygirl


Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sub516

I understand that slavery is illegal.  However, there must be some legal way to put on in a position of real slavery to another by some legal method.  Is a power of attorney sufficient?  What other legal documents can be put into place?

Thanks.


quickest way? join the Military

beyond that... nope.

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to Sub516)
Profile   Post #: 4
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/29/2009 6:43:53 PM   
Honsoku


Posts: 422
Joined: 6/26/2007
Status: offline
Simple. Don't own anything. That means no money, no car, no apartment, no clothes, no food, etc. Have absolutely nothing to your name, including identification. That will be as close as you can legally get (I don't think it is illegal to not have identification) to being a slave, as you would no longer have access to means to change your position. Anything which can't be directly controlled (such as medical decisions) can be indirectly controlled. No lawyer required.

(in reply to Sub516)
Profile   Post #: 5
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/29/2009 6:47:34 PM   
peppermint


Posts: 5170
Joined: 10/18/2005
From: Montana
Status: offline
Yes, you can give power of attorney to another.  However, you also have the legal right to remove that power of attorney at any time.  So you would never be a slave. 

As tazzygirl  has said, military is probably about as close as it gets.  No matter what, slavery IS ILLEGAL.  I know you said you know that.  Now it's time to accept it. 

(in reply to Sub516)
Profile   Post #: 6
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/29/2009 6:49:26 PM   
littlewonder


Posts: 15659
Status: offline
Get a job...at least I feel like a legal one every single day I go there.


(in reply to Sub516)
Profile   Post #: 7
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/29/2009 7:46:49 PM   
leadership527


Posts: 5026
Joined: 6/2/2008
Status: offline
From a dictionary standpoint, the definition of a slave is one human that is owned by another. Such things are not legal in most places and there's nothing you can (or should in my opinion) be able to do about it. If you're up for it, you can certainly make yourself virtually totally dependent on another person. Give away all your possessions. Give the dom unlimited power of attorney. Don't hold a job.

Even that though is just a fiction. Honestly, if I had not a penny to my name I could reclaim my "freedom" in a heartbeat. I was broke when I was 21. Why would this be any different.

I need to ask the same question as others... "Why exactly do you need to do this?" If Carol were not mine in her own heart, I certainly wouldn't want any legal document forcing her to be mine. Would you really want to belong to someone that you didn't want to belong to?

_____________________________

~Jeff

I didn't so much "enslave" Carol as I did "enlove" her. - Me
I want a joyous, loving, respectful relationship where the male is in charge and deserves to be. - DavanKael

(in reply to Sub516)
Profile   Post #: 8
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/29/2009 7:47:47 PM   
BalletBob


Posts: 1645
Joined: 7/14/2005
Status: offline
Yes, a job will do it to you. Especially if it is a Casino in Atlantic City, NJ. Where they try and work you to death. As long as the C.E.O. can get a $39,000,000 Bonus.


PAYED
I'M
WORKED

_____________________________

"I get my kicks above the Waistline, Sunshine"

(in reply to littlewonder)
Profile   Post #: 9
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/29/2009 7:58:07 PM   
lovingpet


Posts: 4270
Joined: 6/19/2005
Status: offline
I am guessing it is a way of closing the one and only loophole available to a slave, that of walking away. Still, I have to be in agreement that I don't want submission from someone who is not giving it willingly. There is an extent to which it can sometimes FEEL like there is no choice, but to have someone there begrudgingly serving me doesn't sound all that appealing.

As far as legal remedies, no there really aren't any. If the dominant can make a successful case that you are an incapacitated adult, maybe, but that is fortunately VERY difficult to establish.

lovingpet

(in reply to BalletBob)
Profile   Post #: 10
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/29/2009 9:26:31 PM   
slavekal


Posts: 1486
Joined: 7/20/2004
Status: offline
You could give all of your possessions to your prospective owner, perhaps set up payroll deductions so that they get all of your wages, thus making yourself totally dependent upon him/her for your entire support. 

_____________________________

"The Courage to Submit: the submissive male's guide to finding a dominant woman"
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/the-courage-to-submit-the-guide-for-the-submissive-male-seeking-a-dominant-woman/5968917

(in reply to Sub516)
Profile   Post #: 11
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/29/2009 9:27:48 PM   
LILPrincessIzzy


Posts: 14
Joined: 6/30/2009
Status: offline
There is not way that I know of atm ...
@ tazzygirl I think I love you for that one... I laughed so hard...O know I lost alot when I joined...

(in reply to lovingpet)
Profile   Post #: 12
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/29/2009 10:00:18 PM   
SteelofUtah


Posts: 5307
Joined: 10/2/2007
From: St George Utah
Status: offline
There is a way.

Google the term: White Slavery.

I know some People.

TRUST ME, You would NOT like it the Fantasy you have is NOT what the reality of Actual Slavery is about.

Either make it real to you and then it is real, or live a miserable life.

Seriously people what the hell is it with Paperwork? How in the fuck does a piece of paper make it MORE REAL.

You wanna know what it is all about, start hanging on on Saudi Aribian Chat Sites and Start Talking about wanting to be owned property you will eventually be contacted. I DO NOT ADVISE THIS METHOD, GIRLS REALLY DO DISAPPEAR EVERY DAY, The FEW that are actually found are either Damaged for life or found in a shallow grave, there have been NONE that I know of who enjoyed the experience.

Steel

_____________________________

Just Steel
Resident Therapeutic Metallurgist
The Steel Warm-Up © ™
For the Uber Posters
Thanks for the Grammatical support : ) ~ Term

(in reply to LILPrincessIzzy)
Profile   Post #: 13
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/29/2009 10:23:54 PM   
lovingpet


Posts: 4270
Joined: 6/19/2005
Status: offline
I'm with Steel on this one. Fantasy run amok. I only gave a possibility in an attempt to be handy, but all in all I think reality needs to kick in here.

lovingpet

(in reply to SteelofUtah)
Profile   Post #: 14
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/29/2009 10:50:51 PM   
BeingChewsie


Posts: 1633
Joined: 10/27/2005
Status: offline
Sign on to go to work for a company based in the UAE(you can't leave without company permission once you get there), or enter the underclass as domestic servant in the UAE, trust me they'll not only see you as slave but treat you as one.

_____________________________

"In fact, it is my contention that most women are accepting of way less than optimal circumstance constantly, and are lucky to be 'snagged' by the right man, if ever. But it is more by happy accident than by their design. "
~Ron and Hup

(in reply to lovingpet)
Profile   Post #: 15
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/29/2009 11:29:39 PM   
ResidentSadist


Posts: 12580
Joined: 2/11/2007
From: a mean old Daddy, but I like you - Joni Mitchell
Status: offline
Some slaves in the M/s community give legal guardianship to their partners.  Between a power of attorney and guardianship, that leaves you pretty much "in custody" and "subject to rule" of your partner.  It is about as close to leagally becoming a slave. 

Good luck. 

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sub516

I understand that slavery is illegal.  However, there must be some legal way to put on in a position of real slavery to another by some legal method.  Is a power of attorney sufficient?  What other legal documents can be put into place?

Thanks.


_____________________________

-=BDSM Book List=- Reading is Fundamental !!!
I give good thread.


(in reply to Sub516)
Profile   Post #: 16
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/30/2009 12:45:13 AM   
aldompdx


Posts: 538
Joined: 10/24/2004
Status: offline
Yes, being a true slave is unlawful in the U.S., U.K., Canada, and many other jurisdictions. Even in the military, one can simply violate the "don't ask, don't tell" law and obtain a dishonorable discharge.

It appears that you remain a true slave to your desire of being one. That is a choice of serving yourself, not another master.

Since your profile declares you to be a submissive, perhaps you should try taking it one step at a time, and gradually increase the degree to which you exercise the free choice and self will to surrender to another. Remember, surrender is less to another than it is of your own ego.

(in reply to ResidentSadist)
Profile   Post #: 17
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/30/2009 1:27:04 AM   
petmonkey


Posts: 1053
Joined: 7/7/2009
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

There is a way.
Google the term: White Slavery.
I know some People.
TRUST ME, You would NOT like it the Fantasy you have is NOT what the reality of Actual Slavery is about.
<snip>
You wanna know what it is all about, start hanging on on Saudi Aribian Chat Sites and Start Talking about wanting to be owned property you will eventually be contacted. I DO NOT ADVISE THIS METHOD, GIRLS REALLY DO DISAPPEAR EVERY DAY, The FEW that are actually found are either Damaged for life or found in a shallow grave, there have been NONE that I know of who enjoyed the experience.

Steel


A reasonably good book on modern non-consensual slavery and something to mentally chew on when perusing CM profiles--
Malarek, Victor. The Natashas: Inside the Global Sex Trade. New York: Arcade Publishing, 2004.


If your planning legal paperwork don't forget a Living Will.

snark removed.


< Message edited by petmonkey -- 7/30/2009 1:31:41 AM >

(in reply to SteelofUtah)
Profile   Post #: 18
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/30/2009 3:15:56 AM   
LillyoftheVally


Posts: 1826
Joined: 7/22/2009
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

Seriously people what the hell is it with Paperwork? How in the fuck does a piece of paper make it MORE REAL.



I dunno, what is married life like :P

_____________________________

'My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre, and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes.'

Nah I am not happy to see you either

(in reply to SteelofUtah)
Profile   Post #: 19
RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/30/2009 6:00:13 AM   
stella41b


Posts: 4258
Joined: 10/16/2007
From: SW London (UK)
Status: offline
This is a bit like asking is there a legal way to cheat and steal despite the fact that you know it's illegal.

No on second thoughts it isn't. You could of course become a Member of Parliament or even a Government Minister.

_____________________________

CM's Resident Lyricist
also Facebook
http://stella.baker.tripod.com/
50NZpoints
Q2
Simply Q

(in reply to Sub516)
Profile   Post #: 20
Page:   [1] 2 3 4 5   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> How does on legally become a slave? Page: [1] 2 3 4 5   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.094