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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 3:45:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Let's see, how can I best phrase this...

No.


I'm confused.. What did you mean by "no"?

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 5:36:04 PM   
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Nope, it seems the link I posted is now down. It was working when I posted it. The email address for the CODE d' ODALISQUE people is:

[email protected]

They will happily post you a copy of the complete 'Code' in pdf format.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 5:39:55 PM   
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Here's some interesting material I've collected on Code d' Odalisque:

A few points on women and gender relations in Code d’ Ode, specifically answering the idea that Code d’ Ode is evil and sexist:

1. A man purchases an odalisque because he loves woman. Slavekeepers in Code d’ Ode are resoundingly heterosexual - they love women. There is no room for women-haters in Code d’ Ode and there is nothing misogynistic about it. The whole tenor of the Code is about protecting and supporting women, about giving rights and a safety network to women who choose to be involved in adult sex slave games, and about the appreciation of the female form and female sexuality. Odalisques are treasured and regarded with great respect and celebrated for what they are.

2. Slaves are treated as slaves in Code d’ Odalisque because they are slaves and not because they are females. Females, per se, are not lesser than men in Code d’ Ode. But slaves, per se, are (obviously) lesser than both freemen and freewomen. There is nothing in Code d’ Ode that suggests that all men should be Masters over all women or that equates woman with slave. Because all odalisques are women, it does not follow that all women are odalisques.

3. No male player has any reason to regard a freewoman as a lesser being. Among freemen and freewomen, male and female are happily equal if they wish to be. There is no theoretical claim that males are superior to females, only that slaves should serve Masters.

Nevertheless, the Code does propose that:

“The dominance of human males over human females is biologically sanctioned even if it is not a sociological constant.” - 1.16

There are two things here: biology and sociology. Biology is the purely animal level. But no one denies that nurture (society) can modify nature, and does so to a great extent. Code d’ Ode is rooted in the undeniable biology of male/female sexuality of the male dominant/female submissive kind. No apology is made for this. Girls who love cock. Guys who love cunt. It is very basic.

4. Slavery in Code d’ Ode is purely sexual, so it is only on a sexual level that the female slave is necessarily submissive anyway. She may be a nuclear physicist on another level, or a successful high-powered business woman, but sexually she is a slave to her Master. Under Code d’ Odalisque a cockslave cannot be made to cook and clean and be treated as a beast of burden. She is preserved from toil. And she need not go out to work and make a living, toiling in factories or commerce. She is kept.

5. The only reason that only females can be odalisques is because of the nature of the service an odalisque provides and that a Slavekeeper demands - not because females are necessarily beneath men and therefore deserve to be enslaved.

6. A premise of Code d’ Ode is that only a few women are true odalisques. We do not suppose that all any woman is good for is her sex. Some women are born to be nuns. Some women are born to be housewives. Some women are born to be astronauts. But some women are born to be cockslaves. Women are diverse. We know that odalisques are rare and so we don’t treat all women like they should be on their knees worshipping our cocks.

The Code draws attention to the following fact:

1.15. - Female sexual servants

It is a constant in human social affairs that there is always a class of female who in one way or another have as their vocation the sexual satisfaction of men.

This does not imply in any way that ALL women should be cockslaves. But there is a (small) class of such women and there always has been. Code d’ Odalisque is for them.



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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 5:45:31 PM   
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And here is another article that was posted to a yahoo group:

You’ve just acquired an odalisque (cockslave) and must set about training her. How is this done, especially since you don’t have any experience training a slave?

The basics of slavetraining in Code d’ Odalisque can be done by anyone who is willing to take command and impose some gentle discipline upon a slave. You don’t need to be a “Dom” in the technical sense, nor an alpha-male. You just need to be patient and consistent and have a clear idea of what you want to achieve.

The basics are:

*Require that the slave maintain her body at an appropriate level of health and beauty.

*Teach the slave the slavepositions of Code d’ Odalisque.

*Teach the slave the etiquette of Code d’ Odalisque.

There is also sexual training, and psychological training - these are more advanced. The basic framework of training an odalisque is covered in these three points - presentation, positions, etiquette.

1. You should impress upon your slave from the very outset that you expect her to maintain her body in a presentable condition at all times. You should be very clear about this and insist upon it. It should be a hallmark of your requirements as a Slavemaster - your slave will keep her body clean, fit, healthy, sexy at all times. Lapses in personal presentation will not be tolerated. Be thorough and consistent on this issue. Inspect your slave regularly and make clear to her what standards of presentation you expect.

2. Conduct regular sessions during which the slave must present herself in the full range of Code d’ Odalisque slave positions. She must know the positions and commands and be able to move into and between positions with grace and poise, according to her Master’s standards. The slavepositions are the cornerstone of Code d’ Odalisque. Teach your odalisque the positions and demand that she perfect them.

3. Teach your slave the etiquette of Code d’ Odalisque to whatever level of formality you yourself are comfortable. At very least, your slave should be quiet, humble and reserved in manner and should use proper forms of address. She should behave like a slave and adopt the manners of Code d’ Odalisque as her standard. Make it clear that you expect a slave to be a slave - you won’t tolerate insolence, loudmouthing, crassness, or disobedience. Pay attention to how your slave talks, walks, sits and holds herself. Insist on a polite manner and graceful posture.

If you cover these three points with diligence and always with a view to bringing refinement and grace to a slave then you already have the beginnings of a substantial training regime. If you have no experience training a slave, start with these three areas. They are the foundation of slavetraining in Code d’ Odalisque.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 5:56:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gentlemanjohn9

Nope, it seems the link I posted is now down. It was working when I posted it. The email address for the CODE d' ODALISQUE people is:

[email protected]

They will happily post you a copy of the complete 'Code' in pdf format.



Is it possible to get this with an inline blowjob?

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 7:36:37 PM   
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There is a MUCH easier term for this
Trophy wife.

My question is why is this related to bdsm?  Seems pretty nilla to me.  Rich men have been marrying them for years.  Trump had one and when she got to old, he got a newer model, who was then replaced by a newer model.  Rich men have been doing this for years. 

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1. You should impress upon your slave from the very outset that you expect her to maintain her body in a presentable condition at all times. You should be very clear about this and insist upon it. It should be a hallmark of your requirements as a Slavemaster - your slave will keep her body clean, fit, healthy, sexy at all times. Lapses in personal presentation will not be tolerated. Be thorough and consistent on this issue. Inspect your slave regularly and make clear to her what standards of presentation you expect.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 7:40:41 PM   
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Poor men wanna be rich;
rich men wanna be kings;
and a king ain't satisfied;
till he rules everything.......

BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCE

and how is that not related to BDSM? Rich men want pussy, you got one.......let's make a deal?
do you see the world as different, somehow?

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 7:45:12 PM   
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It just beats me why people need to think everything they do is kinky and bdsm related.   I am still trying to find out why a 50's housewife type is now considered an aberration, and therefore kinky.

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Poor men wanna be rich;
rich men wanna be kings;
and a king ain't satisfied;
till he rules everything.......

BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCE

and how is that not related to BDSM? Rich men want pussy, you got one.......let's make a deal?
do you see the world as different, somehow?

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 8:00:57 PM   
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Yanno, i THINK even the Taliban wants something good for all people, as they percieve it.


Unless we are talking fags which is not my field of expertise.........

Women need men, and men need women and there is enough to go around.
Oh, we can sing sagas and yo ho toe hoe s and shit, but the actual snork end of non compis mendis coming is pretty short, long road to haul for a couple of seconds

fuck it

Yeah, I grew up in the 50s and I want a 50s household------then you get the oh jesus, where the left handed smoke shift was not allowed in the lutheran school? uadda uadda uadda
(nowadays thats yadda yadda yadda) and it came from you oughta you oughta you oughta.

I prefer not to remember the bad parts, and...............nobodies gonna follow any of this but you

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 8:25:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Missokyst
It just beats me why people need to think everything they do is kinky and bdsm related.   I am still trying to find out why a 50's housewife type is now considered an aberration, and therefore kinky.
Interesting question Missokyst and one I had to deal with for myself. Carol might be considered a traditional wife although I sincerely doubt that many 50's housewives submitted quite to the degree she does. But I agree with you, there is nothing kinky about D/s itself. At least for me, I post and read here because independent of how kinky we are or are not, there's plenty of overlapping topics on the D/s angle.


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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 8:32:31 PM   
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So basically, this "code" proposes a bottom and an elaborate pre-baked set of ritual? I have to assume that it might be appealing to someone more in the fantasy end of the spectrum who was also attracted to elaborate ritual. What exactly is the appeal for you?

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 9:09:04 PM   
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Since their website is down, here's another article about this:

People will often speak of “real time” slaves as distinct from merely casual players, or will distinguish between lifestylers and mere hobbyists. In Code d’ Odalisque these distinctions are covered by the concepts of OCCLUSION and SOJOURN. Whether a player is “real time” and is living “The Lifestyle” or not depends upon the amount of time she spends in OCCLUSION as opposed to how much time she spends in SOJOURN.

Occlusion is the state of captivity when an odalisque is in active service to her Master. She spends this time naked and barefoot, a willing live-in cockslave. At other times, though, she may be allowed to go out into the world like a freewoman. Such times are called Sojourn. A 24/7 RT slave spends her time entirely in occlusion and never goes on sojourn. On the other hand, a part-time “hobby” slave will spend only a short time in occlusion and will otherwise spend most of her time on sojourn.

In this way, Code d’ Ode is very flexible. The rules of the Code are made with full-time serious players in mind. But the Code is easily adapted to those people who merely want to role-play now and then. Full-time occlusion (with only short and occasional periods in sojourn) is the ideal for a true odalisque, but a wide range of other arrangements are possible. It is fair to say that modern women are less inclined to spend 100% of their time in occlusion when compared to odalisques of past eras. Under Code d’ Ode a woman can spend 4 days a week in occlusion serving her Master and three days a week in sojourn doing a University degree or working in an office. The balance between occlusion and sojourn is to be determined by agreement between Master and slave and can change according to circumstance.

It should be stressed that a slave on sojourn is NOT a freewoman. She is still a slave and is still bonded to her Master, and there is a code of behaviour for her to follow whilst away on sojourn. And it also needs to be said that a true odalisque under a competent Master will yearn for longer periods of occlusion and will cherish the times when her captive service is uninterupted by the other concerns of life.

We resist all forms of “scene” snobbishness in which full-timers sneer at and belittle part-time players. Every M/s couple can make the arrangements that suit them.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 9:11:19 PM   
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And another one:

NOTES ON THE ODALISQUE’S LIFE by CM.

During her time in occlusion an odalisque will not spend all of her time in active play. In fact, sex play would normally constitute only a small portion of an odalisque’s time - at least in “real time” Master/slave arrangements. At other times - when not serving sexually - she is a kept slave and enjoys a life of relative ease and luxury. Even if her Master demands her services every night, what does she do during her days?

The first answer to this is - she sleeps. An odalisque will normally sleep several hours more than a busy working person. She is the sort of woman who loves sleep and will sleep for ten or more hours. She lazes snug and naked in bed. She spends a lot of her time just lazing in her bed. On the whole, in fact, she is lazy. The true odalisque type is lazy and enjoys doing nothing. She lazes on the divan and elsewhere in the house, casually displaying her naked beauty as an ornament for her Master. She day-dreams or reads and enjoys her nakedness.

Apart from this life of gentle indolence, however, she must keep herself groomed according to her Master’s standards. Her hair, teeth, eyelashes, face, nails, skin, pussy... she must keep her body clean and well-maintained at all times. A certain amount of grooming is needed every day. It can take up a lot of an odalisque’s time. This includes showering and bathing, spas and saunas.

As well as this “toilette”, the slave must more generally look after her body by way of diet and exercise. An hour of yoga every day will keep her body supple and toned. She might be permitted to go swimming once or twice a week, or maybe her Master has a pool and she can swim daily? Or other suitable exercise. Her lazy and opulent lifestyle needs to be restrained by a regime of physical care and exercise in order to keep her body in an attractive and able state for her Master’s enjoyment.

A slave is also allowed her own entertainments in her apartment (odella) to occupy her time. This depends on what her Keeper provides but might include TV, radio, computer, internet, music. A slave in occlusion does not need excessive stimulation in this regard, but some provision for entertainment in an odella is the norm. Often live media - TV, radio, internet - are avoided because they bring too much “real world” into the slave’s isolation. Instead, the slave is given music CDs and DVD movies by her Master, and even then old music and old movies are preferred because they do not bring the current “real world” into the isolation of the odella.

A Keeper might also provide materials and support to encourage his slave to pursue a suitable pastime such as practising a musical instrument. Classical and feminine instruments - the violin or flute rather than the bass drum or tuba - are preferred. A cockslave need not neglect all her non-sexual talents while in occlusion. If she is a pianist and has practised every day since the age of seven, a Slavekeeper should provide her with a piano to continue with her music.

Finally, periods of occlusion can be punctuated with periods of “sojourn” when the slave goes back into the world like a freewoman. A slave might have a part-time job several days a week or might undertake study or have some other reason to spend days in sojourn. Her Master might let her walk to the public library once a week, or go walking in the park. Arrangements will entirely depend upon the needs of Master and slave. Some women have a greater capacity for isolation than others. Genuine odalisques love occlusion and thrive in captivity.

Needless to say, a Master may set his slave a routine of daily tasks to perform by way of slavetraining. This will usually include practise of the Code d’ Odalisque slave positions and commands and other finer points of etiquette. The slave will later be tested on these points and is expected to be elegant and well-drilled.

An odalisque (in contrast to lower slaves) can eat at table with her Master, and she must be given the same quality food as her Master. These are great privileges. She can spend time with her Master at table in conversation and enjoy food with him. There are other occasions when she has non-sexual interaction with her Master.

And an odalisque may also have an Overmistress who may visit or ring her on a regular basis. Indeed, a slave and Overmistress may conduct a close relationship independent of the Slavekeeper.

A generous Master will pay for his slave to receive such physical fine-tuning as Swedish massage and pedicure or similar, now and then. Or he might pay for her music lessons or French lessons. A Slavekeeper has an obligation to nurture his slave. Odalisque slavery is not about degrading and demoralising a woman - an odalisque is to be nurtured and refined.

All the same, there is no need to pamper her excessively and no need to render her more psychologically complex by developing sides of her personality that might conflict with or complicate her role as cockslave. A cockslave needs to be simple. Her isolation is a condition suited to developing MONOMANIA in a slave. Specifically, this monomania takes the form of a fixation upon phallic worship. Code d’ Ode doesn’t resort to pain and torture and SM to reach into the deeper layers of the slave’s being, so instead Slavekeepers use psychological training methods. Isolation is one of them. During isolation, the mentality and desires of the slave - all her energies - can be redirected onto the single fixation - COCK. The phallocentric slave. Phallic fixation is proper for a cockslave. A Slavekeeper will use the periods of the slave’s occlusion to channel her energies into a single focus - her obsession with cock. He can rightly fill her days with methods and exercises that are designed to imbue her with this monomania. This is the art of Slavetraining in Code d’ Ode - directing the slave’s beauty and grace and spirit and zeal and heat into a deep and genuine cockworship.

Under Code d’ Odalisque a Slavekeeper has an obligation not to let his cockslave go unused. He is urged to make use of her often. And it is in the spirit of the Code (subject to her contractual limits) for her Master to share her with other men (guests). Sexual generosity is a virtue in Slavekeepers. A man who is so fortunate as to own an odalisque has an ethical obligation to share her with others not as fortunate as himself - usually his selected close friends. Where a slave is consenting, a circle of gentlemen can form around an odalisque. She always remains the property of her Owner and Master, but she will happily serve her Master’s guests if that is his bidding. Where a slave is an orgophon and specialises in group play, it is essential that her Master forms a circle of other players around his odalisque.

So an odalisque can expect active service in her slavehood and will not usually be left in her odella for days on end without her services being required. Service to cock, in any case, is what she lives for. That’s why she is an odalisque. When she is not serving cock she is usually preparing herself to better serve cock by catching some beauty sleep, grooming herself, exercising, bathing, toning. Otherwise she lazes, or busies herself with a routine of activities that enhance and refine her. For a woman of the right temperament it is a rich and full lifestyle.


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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 9:20:19 PM   
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heh..
I think this OP is simply to educate us to what is the percieved better, no pain way of indulging in his view of acceptable kink.  He does not appear to be reading

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 9:23:59 PM   
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would you suck my dick while we are whiling away hours reading this?
Im pwetty twue in this endeavow. I mean, c'mon, it ain't like I ain't asking a valid question.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 9:45:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

heh..
I think this OP is simply to educate us to what is the percieved better, no pain way of indulging in his view of acceptable kink.  He does not appear to be reading


Show of hands....how many others saw the email link coming?


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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 9:59:57 PM   
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Its been a while since I sucked dick.  Toss it my way, let me see what I  can do.

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would you suck my dick while we are whiling away hours reading this?
Im pwetty twue in this endeavow. I mean, c'mon, it ain't like I ain't asking a valid question.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 10:02:21 PM   
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LMAO!!  Love the link

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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

heh..
I think this OP is simply to educate us to what is the percieved better, no pain way of indulging in his view of acceptable kink.  He does not appear to be reading


Show of hands....how many others saw the email link coming?



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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 10:30:06 PM   
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Depending on the slave, I find that the Code d' Odalisque fits well into my lifestyle especially as we are more into service than pure BDSM which is my entertainment area. I also don't see needle play as being something purely related to BDSM but to the area of Temporary Body Modifications and as an art form which relates directly to my engraving. 

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/21/2009 11:43:55 PM   
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Show of hands....how many others saw the email link coming?

*Raises hand and tries to rid herself of the earworm resulting from that link*

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