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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 2:14:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DePubed

........the "young, slim, and beautiful" were in the harem,.......


Slim is a western construct of beauty. Curves have almost always been the ideal form for a woman. 

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 4:39:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gentlemanjohn9

And another one:

NOTES ON THE ODALISQUE’S LIFE by CM.



A Keeper might also provide materials and support to encourage his slave to pursue a suitable pastime such as practising a musical instrument. Classical and feminine instruments - the violin or flute rather than the bass drum or tuba  "tuba" that is comedy gold - are preferred. A cockslave need not neglect all her non-sexual talents while in occlusion. If she is a pianist and has practised every day since the age of seven, a Slavekeeper should provide her with a piano to continue with her music.

A generous Master will pay for his slave to receive such physical fine-tuning as Swedish massage and pedicure or similar, now and then. Or he might pay for her music lessons or French lessons. A Slavekeeper has an obligation to nurture his slave. Yes I know so many Dominants out there that are just champing at the bit to be given a dogma and told what to do. Odalisque slavery is not about degrading  and demoralising a woman - an odalisque is to be nurtured and refined.

All the same, there is no need to pamper her excessively and no need to render her more psychologically complex by developing sides of her personality that might conflict with or complicate her role as cockslave.So you are going to nurture and refine her by giving her cock? Well there are a lot of guys out there that think that's the answer to all the worlds problems. A cockslave needs to be simple. I suggest a lobotomy Her isolation is a condition suited to developing MONOMANIA in a slave. Specifically, this monomania takes the form of a fixation upon phallic worship. Code d’ Ode doesn’t resort to pain and torture and SM to reach into the deeper layers of the slave’s being, so instead Slavekeepers use psychological training methods. Isolation is one of them. During isolation, the mentality and desires of the slave - all her energies - can be redirected onto the single fixation - COCK. The phallocentric slave. Phallic fixation is proper for a cockslave. A Slavekeeper will use the periods of the slave’s occlusion to channel her energies into a single focus - her obsession with cock. He can rightly fill her days with methods and exercises  that are designed to imbue her with this monomania. And what would they be?You get a bit hazy on details. This is the art of Slavetraining in Code d’ Ode - directing the slave’s beauty and grace and spirit and zeal and heat into a deep and genuine cockworship. OK so far Ive got that if you bore a women for long enough she will start to obsess about your willy? I'm doubtful on this.

Under Code d’ Odalisque a Slavekeeper has an obligation Yes again Dominants love feeling obliged to do stuff. not to let his cockslave go unused. He is urged to make use of her often. Yes you have to do that with dominants or they just stand there looking directionless. And it is in the spirit of the Code (subject to her contractual limits) for her Master to share her with other men (guests). Sexual generosity is a virtue in Slavekeepers. A man who is so fortunate as to own an odalisque has an ethical obligation to share her with others not as fortunate as himself - usually his selected close friends. (What about the homeless? surely if you are talking about ethically spreading the slave joy around you should be helping out the disenfranchised?) Where a slave is consenting, a circle of gentlemen can form around an odalisque. She always remains the property of her Owner and Master, but she will happily serve her Master’s guests if that is his bidding. Where a slave is an orgophon and specialises in group play, it is essential that her Master forms a circle of other players around his odalisque.

So an odalisque can expect active service in her slavehood and will not usually be left in her odella for days on end without her services being required. Service to cock, in any case, is what she lives for. That’s why she is an odalisque. When she is not serving cock she is usually preparing herself to better serve cock by catching some beauty sleep, grooming herself, exercising, bathing, toning. Otherwise she lazes, or busies herself with a routine of activities that enhance and refine her. For a woman of the right temperament it is a rich and full lifestyle. Full of what apart from cock? I think Ill pass.






Who is paying the bills, cleaning, cooking etc while I lounge around waiting for my Master to do his obligatory servicing? (and Master you better come across or Ill email the Odalisque people and say your not fulfilling your obligations.)

I don't think there is so many domestic service orientated slaves that would be willing to take up a poly house hold where they get to do all the low work and I sit on my pampered arse filing my nails. Totally impractical if you have children (try not being busy then).

So many people on this site already have a powerdynamic worked in with their day to day life.
Guess what alot of people here already have their own "cockslave". Why do they need to wrap it in a pretend role playing world?

Dominants seem to like making their own rules so what use is someone elses to them?

This just comes across as someones elaborate, pompous wank fantasy.
Try second life they will lap it up.

Reading this has actually put me off, I may never get my libido back.










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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 4:47:24 AM   
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I think it's cool that someone went to the trouble to put this all together. Whether or not it interests me (I'm not big on the sexual slave thing, so it isn't a good fit for me), I think it's very interesting, and, as someone who enjoys protocol and such (Victorianesque... c'mon... go figure *LOL*), I find that I like the precision of the concept.

It isn't for me, but I applaud the creators' ambition in putting this together.

Informationally, the keeping of an odalisque was -always- only something for the wealthy man. It was never meant for the working class or poor -- so the fact that a man had the resources with which to keep a girl for whom there was no practical use aside from her entertainment value was proof of his financial status. On the other hand, nearly -every- household of middle class and above in the era of the odalisque had at least one servant to manage daily tasks. The difference in status among households was often determined by how much of the workload the woman of the house had to take up along with her servant(s) in order to keep the household running. A lower-middle-class woman would often do a substantial portion of the household duties, and would keep a servant only for specific things like, perhaps, governess to young children (so that the lady of the house could discharge her social obligations and volunteer activities required for a middle and upper class woman of the period), cook, or scullery servant. A woman of high upper class, on the other hand, would likely have servants for everything from dusting and gardening to making certain that she was properly coiffed and dressed (on occasion, an odalisque in a given household would do double-duty as a lady's dresser, in order to "justify" her presence in a particularly politically or socially 'sensitive' situation). Point being that, today, as then, it would require a certain situation, I suspect, in order to have an odalisque be a viable option in a given household, and would likely require a multi-servant household, if things like chores, etc., were to actually get done--which also would require a capacity to embrace a multi-servant household (I won't call it "poly", because it really has nothing to do with a romantic/love-based relationship... it is really much more strictly a service-oriented situation), or would require the Keeper to handle such things on his own.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 5:11:18 AM   
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I don't think there is so many domestic service orientated slaves that would be willing to take up a poly house hold where they get to do all the low work and I sit on my pampered arse filing my nails. Totally impractical if you have children (try not being busy then).


I would disagree with this, sea. I think it is a matter of perspective, though. The thing people are missing is the disconnect between sex and love in this situation. The position of the odalisque was considered to be a position that must be continually entertaining and never a burden on the Keeper -- therefore, she must -always- be attractive, always be soft-spoken, pliant, and 'ready'. She was never allowed the luxury of expressing her opinion if it would disturb her Keeper or the household, and must hold those burdensome thoughts inside. She must never intimate that she is unhappy in her role, or that she aspires to something different (though, if she is lucky, she may catch her Keeper in a good mood and perhaps be given a moment to express an interest in changing her situation -- but if he likes her as she is, then she must maintain, whether or not she is happy -- and never let on that she is anything -but- happy and ready at all times).

She must keep up her lessons in deportment and entertainment (dance and instrumental music in particular), she must typically be intelligent, well-read, well-spoken, and of quick wit, as she may be required to provide conversation or to act as a stand-in in any game of chance or skill that the Keeper enjoys (chess, cribbage and other card games, etc.). and must be perfectly coiffed, scented, and dressed for both the visual and tactile pleasure of her Keeper -and- any friends that he brings into his demesne.

She must be skilled in the preparation of any refreshment he and his friends might require. She must attend to his study, as no other servant would be allowed within this particularly male space, and accept that, on occasion, hospitality will require that her Keeper offer her services to a business associate, friend, or that she might be used to solidify political or social aspirations of her Keeper by being shared out, and she will not be allowed to say whether she likes the man to whom she is lent (or perhaps even gifted), nor indicate that she is anything less than pleased with the arrangement her Keeper has expected of her... and she would not be loved... cherished, perhaps, and well-used sexually for sure... but she would be, like any other servant in the household, a tool for the pleasure of the Head of the House.

With that in mind, she would be no different than any of the other servants, and any servant -aspiring- to her position would need to be able to master all of the things that she does. The odalisque would only -rarely- be 'sitting on her arse'. When the Keeper was occupied with work, social, and family obligations, she would be working as well -- practicing diction, deportment, music, and learning other necessary skills. She might -also- have responsibilities to attend to the Lady of the Household's attire, wigs, and cosmetics, as a stipulation of justification for her presence in the household.

It is a completely different world -- and one that, particularly in the States, has never really been well comprehended. That being said, I know, for a -fact- that there are plenty of servants who, as long as they were well cherished in their given roles in a household, would be perfectly comfortable with serving alongside a servant who was dedicated as an odalisque, because I have served alongside them, and have, later on, had such arrangements in our own household, when it was large enough to sustain such things.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 5:22:35 AM   
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It's like those elaborate "slave contracts" nobody actually uses.


Actually, some people -do- use elaborate 'service contracts' and 'bond-contracts'... but you'll see it more often in formalized, stylized households. As an example, I prefer to run a Victorianesque-leaning household. As such, I tend to have a rather elaborate contract, and develop extensive protocols to address many daily situations -- because that is in keeping with the style of dynamic that I prefer... so perhaps it would be more effective to say "... that -few- ever use."

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 5:26:23 AM   
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likes to engage in conversation of a non-sexual nature.


I was unable to access the mentioned link... but typically, in Western culture, the odalisque -did- do things like provide 'entertainment' for her Keeper... and his friends. Everything from playing cards (we need a 4th for Spades, girl... sit down... what do you -mean- you don't know how to play spades?), to reading aloud, to engaging in conversation on a variety of topics (including having the wisdom to never really -argue- with her Keeper... to be able to offer opinions without sounding like she was trying to negate -his- opinion in any way... a true skill!)... all of these entertainments were the responsibility of the Western odalisque.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 5:31:51 AM   
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To spend all day, sitting around, watching me do all the work, going to work, coming home tired and cranky, doing everything I do at home, and be told to just sit and wait for me to get in the mood...........that would drive her crazy. She simply couldn't stand it. She is a slave through and through. To be used in whatever way I see fit, I need, I want, that is her dream.


I wrote another post on how an odalisque would fill her time -- but this specifically addresses the bolded portion of the post. See, one of the responsibilities of the odalisque, when her Keeper came home from a hard day of work and settled himself in his library or smoking lounge, was to relax him, ease his worries, and -actively assist- in easing whatever tensions might keep him from getting 'in the mood'... after which she would be ravaged to assuage his interests, then left to clean up any clutter from the earlier evening, and perhaps, if the other servants had already been sent to their rest for the night, even attend to making sure that he had food, drink, and proper attire for bed -- including bathing him and shaving him, etc.

Yes, the odalisque would often sleep late -- but she was also "on call" at all hours of the night. Keeper can't sleep... well, then wake the odalisque to entertain me. Friends staying late -- that's OK... the odalisque will see to them...

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 5:38:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Code d' Odalisque has been around for a while now. I think it offers another possibility in the broad spectrum of BDSM activities and so for thisd reason deserves to be better known. I like the fact that it reconstructs a historical institution and draws on the historical odalisque idea, which is a type of slavery that has been overlooked in M/s relationships as far as I know. Its a pity the website is down. There is a large amount of material there now, including the entire wrtitten 'Code' which is a detailed set of principles and protocols. Obviously, people will take from it what they will. I'm attracted to fairly tight protocol and ritual. I have no trouble with the idea that Masters are bound by certain parameters of play or that play should conform to a certain style.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 5:38:37 AM   
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There is a MUCH easier term for this
Trophy wife.

My question is why is this related to bdsm? Seems pretty nilla to me. Rich men have been marrying them for years. Trump had one and when she got to old, he got a newer model, who was then replaced by a newer model. Rich men have been doing this for years.


Except that most of the men who kept an odalisque already -had- a wife... so the odalisque would never be in a situation where she could be married--she was strictly for entertainment.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 5:43:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here's another article from the Code d' Odalisque website:

SEXUAL EXTORTION

The first and most significant difference between a modern wife/husband relationship and a Master/slave relationship is quite simply that in the latter the woman is owned sexually - she is sexually obedient. This means that she can no longer use sex as a bargaining chip in gender power struggles.

Many married couples slip into a habit of sex-for-reward. The wife will let her husband have his way if - and only if - he is well behaved in some way or another. Or it becomes a reward for her own indulgences - "Let me buy the dress today and tonight you can talk me out of it." This is very common. Wives use sex as extortion - a way of getting non-sexual things they want.

The cockslave relationship puts an end to that. The wife must surrender from this habit and give up using her sex as a weapon or as a means of bargaining. Instead, her sex belongs to her Master. The cockslave must yield to her Master at all times . She cannot say, "OK, but only if you put out the garbage cans tonight..." sort of thing. When a Master tells her to spread her legs, she will comply. It is never a question of whether he "deserves" it for good behaviour. A Master owns his slave.

When a wife enters into a cockslave relationship she vows to give up all sexual extortion. She surrenders sexually. She accepts that she is her Master's object of sexual use - his sex doll - whenever he wants. She never says no.

But she must always be honest. If she has a headache she should say "I have a headache". If she is really not in the mood she should say so. If her Master still insists, then she must relent and do it anyway. That is the obligation of a slave. (And if this continues to happen she might think about begging for her freedom and getting out of the deal.)

A slave should report discomfort of any sort to her Master. But she should not invent it or use it an an excuse to avoid her duty to serve her Master's bed. There will inevitably be times when a slave is not feeling up for sex but her Master beckons. On those occasions she must hold to a slave's mentality and submit anyway.

Wise Slavemasters of course do not make a slave bend in ways that might break her. He has a deep duty of care to his slave. So he will not force her to do things if she is sick or below par. But he is still in control of her sex. He should employ and deploy it wisely.

Although it is a game of fun erotic slavery is not something a freewoman should enter haphazardly. At very least she must be prepared to surrender the habit of sexual bargaining and to no longer see her sex as a way to get non-sexual things. To a large extent she gives up the right to say no. Instead, she is prepared to offer her sex to her Master at any time, even when she is not feeling sexual.

BEFORE a woman becomes an odalisque, she should think seriously about this.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 5:46:23 AM   
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The first answer to this is - she sleeps. An odalisque will normally sleep several hours more than a busy working person. She is the sort of woman who loves sleep and will sleep for ten or more hours. She lazes snug and naked in bed. She spends a lot of her time just lazing in her bed. On the whole, in fact, she is lazy. The true odalisque type is lazy and enjoys doing nothing. She lazes on the divan and elsewhere in the house, casually displaying her naked beauty as an ornament for her Master. She day-dreams or reads and enjoys her nakedness.


Hmmm... honestly, this concept is only barely accurate for what I know as Western re-enactment of the odalisque. Though they did sleep later than the rest of the household, it was not due to laziness, but because their schedule was 'off' of the other household members, having served late into the night to entertain the Keeper and/or his friends. She would, typically, sleep as long as he did, or perhaps longer if she was one of those women for whom a lack of sleep showed in her face/features (dark circles, etc.). Other than this, the odalisque actually kept pretty busy... yes, she read, but it was because, typically, the men rich enough to expect the services of an odalisque expected her to be entertaining and able to hold her own in a conversation.

This idea of a purely -sexual- slave, who had no other responsibilities, really is quite counter to the historical existence of the odalisque/concubine in Western civilization (though it may be common to the Eastern odalisque, or the harem slave -- but I believe I've read that even -they- had duties like weaving, sewing, and other non-active jobs when they were cloistered rather than at their Keeper's feet which kept them relatively busy).

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 5:47:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		And another article on attire which makes comparisons with Gorean:

In the Gorean genre of slavery there is a complete attire that goes with the fantasy. There are specified slavegirl costumes. There are even Gorean foods and table manners. Gorean offers a complete lifestyle.

Code D' Odalisque is a different genre of erotic slavery. Gorean replicates aspects of the pre-Christian European barbarian slavekeeping culture (when men were real men and women were real women). It replicates pagan slavekeeping. The author of the Gorean novels, John Norman, has obviously drawn upon features of ancient Ostrogothic and Celtic culture. In the Gorean genre, women are essentially kept as animals. Gorean training is animal training. A slave is like a loyal dog.

Code D' Odalisque draws upon different historical models. It draws upon the luxuriant and sensuous slavekeeping cultures of the ancient and medieval Near East. In these cultures you find the dedicated cockslave, the odalisque. Rather than a common dog, the cockslave is like a rare and exotic pet.

Since she is dedicated to sex the odalisque is essentially naked. She does not need to wear clothing. Clothing is to protect the body while working. The odalisque does not work. She fucks.

Nor is she dressed like a slut or a whore. She does not need to advertise. Sluts and whores dress as they do to attract male attention and to advertise their goods. But an odalisque has a Master and so does not need to spruik her wares.

So she is naked and barefooted - dressed for her purpose - which is to provide her Master with the visual delights of the female form and to be a willing agent in his sexual dreams.

In classical depictions of odalisques they are always naked, or they half-clothe themselves with a simple cloth wrap, or - more often - with a see-through wrap or veil.

The attire of the odalisque is always supplementary to her nakedness. She is never really clothed. Veils, wraps, shawls only serve to obscure her nakedness, but she remains naked.

The attire of an odalisque ORNAMENTS her nakedness without covering it. Typically, she wears jewellery without clothing. She wears decorative bands, rings, necklaces, bracelets, earrings, ankle bracelets, but no garments.

It is important not to confuse an odalisque with a slut or a whore.

CONSIDER THIS:

Why do human beings have less body hair than other primates? And why do women have less body hair than men?

The answer to this is that the human body has evolved away from hairiness in order to make the human skin more sensitive. This makes human beings more sexual and erotic creatures than other primates. The whole skin has become an erotic organ. This is not the case in lower primates - their skin is far less sensitive and is covered in hair.

When human beings have sex the body-to-body and skin-to-skin contact is erotic in itself. This is not the case in lower primates. Their sexuality is localised to their genitals. In human beings the sexual response is distributed throughout the body. The whole skin is an erotic zone.

So, human beings have greater physical erogeneity than other primates and, by extension, human females are more erotic in this sense than human males. The female body has evolved into a complete, hairless errogenous zone by comparison with apes and men.

This is why the odalisque is naked. The institution of the odalisque acknowledges and celebrates this turn of events in human evolution. It celebrates woman as the ultimate sexual creature of nature.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 5:52:16 AM   
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Odalisque - a female sexual servant, a sexual slave

Memlook - a low slave or domestic slave

Odella - the lodgings of an odalisque

Freewoman - a female who is not an odalisque.

Saray - a place prepared for sexual activities, a place where a Keeper enjoys his slave.

Slavekeeper - the owner of a slave (also Slavemaster, Master, Slaveowner or Slavekeeper, or more commonly just “Keeper”)

Advocate - also known as “Slavetrader” or “Trader”, a non-sexual player who acts to facilitate and co-ordinate play and is an advocate for Code d’Odalisque.

Masque - a party or social event specifically for the celebration of Code d’Odalisque, characterized by the wearing of masks.

Attar - a perfume worn by an odalisque during her occlusion.

Occlusion - a period of sexual captivity

Sojourn - a period in which a slave is temporarily free of occlusion

Disclacing - a ritual stripping, the ritual process by which a freewoman is made a slave. By extension, the training process by which she is made to understand the distinction between odalisque and freewoman.

Overmistress - a woman appointed to oversee an odalisque

Mool - a woman's cunt and, by extension, her sex, and by extension a sex slave. Technically, a slave's cunt, the female part.

Qoola - A sex slave who submits to many Masters in series, contracting short periods of ownership in sequence. Popularly, a "slut slave" having a slightly lower status than an odalisque proper.

Unslutting - a disciplinary process by which an odalisque is endowed with a slave mentality rather than being a whore or a slut.

Turnkey - a person appointed to hold a spare set of keys in cage or captivity play. By extension, a person charged with taking care of security.

Kurush - the unit of currency employed in all play. One kurush has the value of one hundredth of a troy ounce of silver at any given time.

Unbonded Slave - an odalisque without an owner.

Alms - money donated to a relevant charity.

Sodomella - an odalisque who specializes in anal sex.

Ejacaline - an odalisque who specializes in cum-play.

Fellatrice - an odalisque who specializes in fellatio.

Ambiphiline - an odalisque who specializes in bisexual play.

Orgophon - an odalisque who specializes in group sex.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 5:56:10 AM   
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Code d’ Odalisque is an alternative genre of adult slave play for both casual role-players and people seeking a lifestyle. It is an alternative to the familiar whips-and-dungeons style of slave play common in BDSM scenes. It offers a non-violent style of consensual slavery not based in sado-masochism. It revives the institution of “odalisque” - the pleasure slave - and draws upon the sensual slave traditions of the Orient for its inspiration.

An odalisque is a female slave who is preserved from labour and toil in order to devote herself to sexual service. She is not a cook or cleaner, not a maid or houseslave. Instead, she serves her Master’s bed as a dedicated bedroom slave. The genre is maledom/femsub with an emphasis on sexual captivity. It can be played soft or hard according to taste.

The “Code” is a complete written system of manners, slavepositions and etiquette that sets out the rights and obligations of an odalisque. It was first compiled by contemporary couples who were dissatisfied with what the BDSM scene was offering. They wanted a sensual, non-violent erotic style of slavery for women who enjoy being used sexually but who aren’t into whips, wracks and grunge. There are no moralistic judgements involved in this preference - it is simply the case that lots of women who are into bondage and submission do not want play based in pain. Code d' OPde caters to their needs.

The writers of the “Code” have taken ideas from the traditional institution of “odalisque” and combined them with a sense of modern, hardcore sexuality. The “Code” offers a complete “quasi-legal” codification of the odalisque’s life with an emphasis on consent, safety and legality. It includes a comprehensive system of slavetraining.

Many people in the BDSM scene ridicule this genre as "vanilla" or mere "role playing" but it offers a valid alternative. Today there are couples throughout the world who have adopted Code d’ Ode as either an adult “game” or as a way of life. The Code and all supplementary information is offered free to any interested adult.

You can find out more at:

http://www.codedodalisque.110mb.com/index.html


Goodness...."grunge"?  WTF?!  Belittling the BDSM community to show an alternative lifestyle is kinda rubbing me the wrong way with a statement like that.  I tend to feel that one person's kink is just as valid as another person's is.  Preference is one thing, but to come off judgemental is another.  Certainly this proposition would sound like a romantic situation and an ideal life for some, but in my preference; I tend to want more of a multi-purpose person to call my own....  I want someone that can bring something to the table with them besides their 'girly parts'...not some sexual object like a toy to play with. 


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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 5:56:38 AM   
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GLOSSARY OF SPECIAL TERMS

Sodomella - an odalisque who specializes in anal sex.



Sounds like Wayne & Waynetta Slob's 3rd child [1]

[1] not sure how much sense this'll make to those on the left hand side of the pond

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 6:04:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Code D' Odalisque does not compare favorably with Gor, IMHO.

You are not helping to promote your cause, by continuing to cite similarities.



I'll bet all the terms in the glossary are copyrighted, and there's a series of books due out. So this is all a marketing ploy, right?

Good luck with that.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 6:15:14 AM   
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Code D' Odalisque does not compare favorably with Gor, IMHO.

You are not helping to promote your cause, by continuing to cite similarities.



I'll bet all the terms in the glossary are copyrighted, and there's a series of books due out. So this is all a marketing ploy, right?

Good luck with that.



It appears our OP joined yesterday. Every post made has been to "market" his system of slavery.  While there may be some (few imo) points that are of interest, I find his constant offerings from the "site" as oppossed to actual replies to questions to be downright silly.  If this is nothing more than a shameless plug for a site, be honest and own up.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 6:16:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		why is the word "play" used so much. It is not "play"for all of us.

Justme thinking uploud.

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 6:22:17 AM   
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why is in BDSm the word "play" used so much. It is not "play"for all of us.



"It just is". It's a term I detest as well but, recently, when I was challenged to find a better, the best I could do was "interaction", which frankly makes it sound like a pet science project.

I suppose we could make up an entirely new word, but I don't think that'd help much either ... "hey baby, does the idea schnoodalling with me appeal to you?"

What general term would you like to see taken up? I'm all for giving it a go. Change is good

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RE: Code d' Odalisque - 8/22/2009 6:24:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Perhaps it is because I am non english...but playing sounds to me as...."not as serious" as in "non lifestyle" or so.
Indeed hard to explain. But I am sure ..I don't "play" hwta I do with my sub/slaves..

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