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ORIGINAL: Sanity


You're bloviating, Spinner. Obfuscating, too.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Robert Byrd was a chapter Grand Cyclops and was a member of the clan for about 10 years

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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales
Well I'm glad to see you have a good vocabulary. But I still am not going to let go on this point until you answer it. You have stated that you are SURE that if there were a republican politician with racist associations equal to your view of Obama's, there would be riots. There have been three elected officials, two republicans and one democrat who have undeniable associations with undeniably racist organizations.

What you refuse to do is answer the obvious questions.
Are you claiming that membership in the KKK and Strong associations with the CCC do not live up to your view of the racist associations held by Barack Obama?
Do you have any belief that there were riots or any other mass disturbance caused by these associations by these republicans (or the democrat for that matter)?

If the answer to neither of these questions is "yes", then was your assertion about "riots" not wrong as is most of this poor victimized white male nonsense that is being thrown around? I'll make it easier for you. Was not your nonsense about riots wrong. We can talk about this victim mentality that has been adopted at a later date.

Either talk truth or quiet down. But when you speak of nonsense that is so very easily disproved, your one line insult postings are not going to obscure the truth in this matter.

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You ever stop to think that you might be taking that statement far too literally, Spinner?

Sometimes you spin so much and so fast that you seem to fall into your own little game.

And who exactly is throwing around any "poor victimized white male nonsense". Why can't you debate something without building these phony straw men... are your convinced that your arguments are really that weak? ORIGINAL: Sanity

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There are always two standards for the left but in reality, or at least in a more perfect world, there is only one. ORIGINAL: Sanity

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You want someone to jump through your hoops? Get a dog. As an added bonus you can call it a racist and it'll still jump through your hoops all day long.

But I've got a news flash for you, I'm not a dog - and I'm sure as hell not your dog.
ORIGINAL: Sanity

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You can ask general questions all you want but when you begin demanding specific individuals to answer specific questions you're going to see words like "pompous ass" and "Napoleon complex" appearing on your screen, pretty near every time.
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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales

How about this: Can you show me that any of my citations are incorrect? Can you show me how any of my questions were unfair to ask? Or shall we all expect the consideration of having everything they say be accepted as truth simply because they say it?

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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales

You mean like the famous riots that occurred when the republican party nominated a man who was elected to the state senate who was a former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan in Louisiana?

In January 1989, Duke ran in a special election open primary for the State House's 81st district seat. Running as Republican Duke finished first in the primary with 3,995 votes for 33.07% [5]. Since no one received over 50% of the vote there was a runoff election with Duke running against fellow Republican John Treen (2,277 votes 18.85% in primary) for a seat representing Metairie in the Louisiana House of Representatives. Despite the endorsement of Treen's candidacy by President George H. W. Bush, former President Ronald Reagan, and other notable Republicans,[20] plus Victor Bussie (head of the Louisiana AFL-CIO and Ed Steimel (head of the Louisiana Association of Business & Industry, the major pro-business lobbyist organization in the state); Duke, however, hammered Treen on a statement the latter had made indicating a willingness to entertain higher property taxes, anathema in that district.[21] Duke with 8,459 votes defeated Treen 8,232 votes (50.68% to 49.32%) [6]. He served in the House from 1990 until 1992.     

Despite repudiation by the Republican Party[31], Duke ran for Louisiana Governor in 1991 ...

His candidacy was repudiated by the Republicans[37]. Republican Party Chairman Jim Nicholson remarked: "There is no room in the party of Lincoln for a Klansman like David Duke."[37

In 1974, David Duke founded the Louisiana-based Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, a Ku Klux Klan group, shortly after graduating from LSU.

In 1979, Duke ran as a Democrat for the 10th district seat in the Louisiana State Senate. He finished second in a three candidate race with 9,897 votes for 26.26%.[18]

In 1988, Duke ran initially in the Democratic presidential primaries. His campaign failed to make much of an impact, with the one notable exemption of winning the little known New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary [3]

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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales

Ahhh...so if I ask a specific individual to answer specific questions about a position he brought up, I should expect evasion and abuse?

How about this: Can you show me that any of my citations are incorrect? Can you show me how any of my questions were unfair to ask? Or shall we all expect the consideration of having everything they say be accepted as truth simply because they say it?

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There's plenty more shit, but the point I wish to make is that you (and many other left of center posters) is trying to make is both simplistic, and wrong.
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You dish out enough abuse that you should expect the exactly the same in return - and I don't take a lot of time to go looking things up weekdays, and I won't ask your forgiveness for that.

I post a little here and there, and that's about it.
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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales

You are the one who brought up the matter that black or democratic racism is tolerated while white republican racism is not. This is not a straw man. This is the dead elephant in the room. I'm just bringing it up for discussion.

When former president Jimmy Carter accuses the opponents of Barrack Obama’s policy of nationalizing broad aspects of our economy and spending us into bankruptcy of being “racists,” perhaps he should look in the mirror. In his 1982 book, Keeping Faith, Carter disingenuously said he “was not directly involved in the early struggles to end racial discrimination.” No kidding — in fact, he directly and unambiguously supported segregation. When Carter returned to Plains, Georgia, to become a peanut farmer after serving in the Navy, he became a member of the Sumter County School Board, which did not implement the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision handed down by the Supreme Court. Instead, the board continued to segregate school children on the streets of Carter’s hometown.

As Laughlin McDonald, director of the ACLU’s Voting Project, relates in his book A Voting Rights Odyssey: Black Enfranchisement in Georgia, Carter’s board tried to stop the construction of a new “Elementary Negro School” in 1956. Local white citizens had complained that the school would be “too close” to a white school. As a result, “the children, both colored and white, would have to travel the same streets and roads in order to reach their respective schools.” The prospect of black and white children commingling on the streets on their way to school was apparently so horrible to Carter that he requested that the state school board stop construction of the black school until a new site could be found. The state board turned down Carter’s request because of “the staggering cost.” Carter and the rest of the Sumter County School Board then reassured parents at a meeting on October 5, 1956, that the board “would do everything in its power to minimize simultaneous traffic between white and colored students in route to and from school.”