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DesirousSub25 -> Being called "slut" (8/30/2004 12:06:43 AM)

Hello!

I am new here. I'm from RI and am not quite sure what to say.

[Personals info deleted by Mod6. Your profile is the appropriate place to post what you are looking for, etc. I left the rest of the post since it might be of some value in starting a discussion about being called a slut.]

I will say right here and right now, I am not interested in being a pain slut. As a matter of fact, I will not be referred to as a slut by anyone. In my mind, "slut" is a very dishonorable word, and I will not tolerate it. I am not into pain at all. I'm only into love and sex and being domiated in the bedroom. I will not stand for domination of any other part of my life. I will probably ask for help with things, which I will admit to probably asking for quite often, but I will not ggive up my friends for you or anything else of that nature.

A lot of you are probably sayiing something like, "what a domineering bitch!" Well maybe I am, but I have not had an easy life and I will not allow anyone to take control of something I have yet to gain control of. I hope this is understandable.




Estring -> RE: Inexperienced Sub looking for sub sister (8/30/2004 12:25:37 AM)

Wow, your intro sure took a sharp turn in the middle there. Anyway, welcome to Collarme. There are many cool people here. Especially on the message boards.




DesirousSub25 -> RE: Inexperienced Sub looking for sub sister (8/30/2004 12:33:00 AM)

Thank you, and I'm sorry about my sudden personality switch. I am actually quite sweet, I just am very determined not to be taken advantage of or talked into something I don't want. That has happened quite often in the past, and it really hurts because I'm too trusting. Now, I try not to be so trusting.




proudsub -> RE: Inexperienced Sub looking for sub sister (8/30/2004 12:43:58 AM)

Welcome to the boards. I'm a little confused. Do you currently have a Dom as you profile says? Anyway i hope you find what you desire.




DesirousSub25 -> RE: Inexperienced Sub looking for sub sister (8/30/2004 3:16:28 AM)

I do have a Dom, however I haven't really met him yet and I don't think he has any interest in marriage.




NoCalOwner -> RE: Being called "slut" (8/30/2004 10:12:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesirousSub25

I will say right here and right now, I am not interested in being a pain slut. As a matter of fact, I will not be referred to as a slut by anyone. In my mind, "slut" is a very dishonorable word, and I will not tolerate it. I am not into pain at all. I'm only into love and sex and being domiated in the bedroom. I will not stand for domination of any other part of my life. I will probably ask for help with things, which I will admit to probably asking for quite often, but I will not ggive up my friends for you or anything else of that nature.

A lot of you are probably sayiing something like, "what a domineering bitch!" Well maybe I am, but I have not had an easy life and I will not allow anyone to take control of something I have yet to gain control of. I hope this is understandable.


Hey, welcome!

If you've spent many years on the Internet, you know that it is a place where lies and rudeness abound, since those who enjoy such things know that their lies will be hard to detect, and that their rudeness can't be rewarded with the slap in the face that it deserves. There is no way to avoid all such people, so apologies in advance if you run into any arrogant a**holes who try to excuse their behavior by pretending that it's dominance. Or people who will lie to you for fun, or because they think that if they claim to be a Dom they can just order you to drop your pants or whatever. These people are abusing the hospitality of the site, but getting rid of them all just isn't feasible.

There are also tons of very cool people here. If you haven't already noticed, BDSM is a huge category, lumping together those who like giving and/or getting pain, those who have fun with handcuffs/rope/etc., and those who like D/s. Not to mention those who fall into more than one category. Dozens of sorts of kinky people, even if you keep your categories REALLY broad. We are anything but homogenous, so expect us to be almost as different from each other as if we were a random sampling of humanity. We may be meek to imperious, utterly gentle to very sadistic, 24/7 lifestylers to those who occasionally fantasize about dabbling. You have clearly stated what you want, but there will still be people who will not read, or will not care about, your profile. Don't let it get you upset -- like spam and popup ads, it's just part of the Internet package, and not worth wasting any time or thought over. Finding people here who are genuine and share your tastes is more than possible, it is almost guaranteed. Just relax, be patient, and don't let the small number of thoughtless or abusive users get you down.

Hope you enjoy your stay, and may you find what you're looking for.




Destinysskeins -> RE: Being called "slut" (8/30/2004 10:22:39 AM)

Greetings & Welcome!

*smiles* It's quite understandable to try to deflect attention from all of these undesirables. my advice - smile, nod at them and say have a nice life. Just a bit of a side note to ya - there's now a mail controls option for collarme mail where you can filter mail by state, gender, etc if you are looking for specific things in a potential.

Hope to see more from you in the boards.

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Oh, yeah - do we want a discussion on being called a slut? [;)] If so, i'll start it off - feel free to ignore it if such a discussion isn't really wanted.

Personally - i love it. i enjoy the verbal humilation play and being told that i'm just my Dominant's little slut to be used as they want. *shrugs* really no idea why - it's just turns my wittle crank! [:)] Any other opinions?




theroebabe -> RE: Being called "slut" (8/30/2004 11:20:21 AM)

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Oh, yeah - do we want a discussion on being called a slut? [;)] If so, i'll start it off - feel free to ignore it if such a discussion isn't really wanted.

Personally - i love it. i enjoy the verbal humilation play and being told that i'm just my Dominant's little slut to be used as they want. *shrugs* really no idea why - it's just turns my wittle crank! [:)] Any other opinions?


Well when i am with that special someone i think of myself as their slut and love it when they say it, but i do not feel (usually) humiliated by it when it is said with caring and support. Being a slut to others isnt my cup of tea but to that special someone it is everything.

Oh i have been called a pain slut too before and thats fine since i find that that term differs from dom to dom based on the type of S&M that they practice.

Roe




sweetpleaser -> RE: Being called "slut" (8/30/2004 11:30:10 AM)

I personally do not like being called a slut. Back when I was going to high school, slut meant you slept around. I am monogamous (and kinky). Maybe my frame of mind is still in the seventies.[8|]

take care,
ann




Destinysskeins -> RE: Being called "slut" (8/30/2004 12:06:49 PM)

quite understandable sweetpleaser - i think that's the meaning typical to just about anyplace other than my own mind. So, i don't think it has anything with your age at all. But then apparently others think of it without the dime store whore type of connotation too since what theroebabe described is pretty much the same for me as well. [:-] To me, it means that i'm there for that one person's use (*cough* and am pretty much ready at the drop of the hat for said person *cough*) [:D]




NoCalOwner -> RE: Being called "slut" (8/30/2004 1:44:50 PM)

There's also the polyamory tradition of "the ethical slut." I think that the proud use of that label among the poly community has done a lot to remove the sting. To some, "slut" means that you have overcome social and religious brainwashing, and become comfortable with the idea that you prefer to have more than one sexual partner. A form of sexual enlightenment, if you will, rather than being too spineless or lacking in conviction to say "no."

In a D/s context, there is also the possibility of a Dom/me wanting to share their sub/slave with someone else, or perceiving that their sub/slave might long for that, if only as a secret wish. If this would violate a hard limit, hopefully the idea stops right there. But if it doesn't, then "slut" may become a title of distinction which has been earned by obedience.

A few million years back, our female ancestors would go into heat, and have sex up to 50 times a day for a few weeks. That is why women are often multi-orgasmic, it was nature's payoff for screwing every halfway desirable male within miles. Almost no males could last for over half a minute, so females would pretty much have to line the guys up and take them on in rapid succession to have their needs met. While I think that this background is just a small bit of the puzzle of human sexuality, I do NOT think that it's a negligible bit. Some people learn to embrace and love their inner slut, while others wouldn't dream of it. Whatever works for you...




Kooth -> RE: Being called "slut" (8/30/2004 2:15:43 PM)

Has anyone here read The Ethical Slut? Although the book does deal primarily with polyamory and not BDSM per se, I think the idea of reclaiming the term "slut" is not that new - the book was written in the mid 90's, and the idea was probably discussed even earlier. One post here described a slut as someone who slept around - that is not necessarily a bad thing, just another variety of kink. The other usage referred to seems to be a Dom describing a sub and what kinky things they are up to by themselves, which is cool, too. The term WAS meant to be degrading at one point (still is, by some), and using it that way, like play rape, can be fun. Breaking bigger taboos in reality or roleplay makes for a bigger turn-on. I'm not going to call you a slut if I don't know you, I would need to know what it meant to you, first. Does it push a good button or bad one?

I gave the book to my last sub, along with Exhibitionism for the Shy, because they both applied to our relationship. She was my slut, and was a slut for others, both at my say so and of her own desire. Both books deal with self-esteem issues, learning to accept your behavior and attitudes as healthy when they radically differ from the (imMoral) majority's views. It's probable that people who either use or object to the use of words like slut mean it in a degrading way, to tear down self-esteem, so, unless it's been predetermined by you and your partner or friends, stay away from or ignore it. Like many people, we tried to come up with a better word for a sexually active woman - hetaera was one of my favorites.

Although combining poly- and D/s is more challenging than either alone, I think, it was also a very powerful experience for both of us. I've done both by themselves, as well, open relationships, and closed Dom/sub. The two together makes for MORE rules and greater awareness, not less - you may have more options of what you can do and with whom, but you have to take greater care, to prioritize relationships, where and when boundaries apply, navigate jealousies, etc. But it is possible to have many parnters AND be committed to a healthy long-term relationship, to be an ethical slut; or, as it seemed to be brought up here, to be an ethical slut for one person, getting very kinky but not breaking any more morals than anyone else in a BDSM relationship does, whatever words they use to describe themselves.




MaitresseEden -> RE: Being called "slut" (8/30/2004 3:19:58 PM)

I for one have read the book, The Ethical Slut, and have met both the authors and have heard them speak on the topic extensively. I proudly embrace the term slut.

quote:

To some, "slut" means that you have overcome social and religious brainwashing, and become comfortable with the idea that you prefer to have more than one sexual partner. A form of sexual enlightenment, if you will, rather than being too spineless or lacking in conviction to say "no."


Hits the nail right on the head!. however It may not be a preference to have more than one.. but a honest representation of your sexual practices.

Ms. Eden.

Some say "slut".. others say "pervert".. I prefer the term... "Sexually Sophisticated"!




Cyis75 -> RE: Being called "slut" (8/31/2004 2:21:34 PM)

Like MaitresseEden I too own a copy of "The Ethical Slut" which is autographed and I've had a number of occassions to speak
with atleast one of the authors.

I think for many the term "slut" is a like a trigger, much like other racial terms used. For some these are enjoyable and for
others not so enjoyable. I think it's really up to each person to determine for themselves who they take it. I've seen where how
someone perceives themselves has a lot to do in how being called a "slut" affects them. Those that seem to have a firm grasp on
thier self-image and self-worth I see more often taking it as a compliment while those who are not seem to take offense. Of course
these are just my observations from personal experience.

More often than not when I hear or call someone a slut I usually get a comment back like "You say that like it's a bad thing" so
can't be all bad.

Regards,
Cyis




nixiespring -> RE: Being called "slut" (8/31/2004 4:27:21 PM)

Like another has already mentioned, when I was younger, slut was a woman that slept around. She was "easy", and it was clear while all the boys loved sleeping with her, none of them loved her. There were a few of them, and they were in and out of relationships every few weeks, often sleeping their way through a circle of guys (moving from friend to friend). All the "good" girls dated boys long term and only "gave it up" when it was serious.

I was ... more adventurous when I finally decided to "give it up". I was willing to try anything, because we were in love right? And besides, it was so much fun!! How could anything that felt that good be bad? It never occurred to me that this wasn't "normal", because I didn't have any other female friends I compared notes with. Everything was bliss, until we broke up. From his sexy angel temptress to sluttly little whore in a heartbeat. Leaving me devastated. This pattern was repeated with several boyfriends over the remaining highschool and college years. With each man, they loved that I enjoyed sex when we dated, but decided I was a "perverted slut" once the relationshp ended. Over time, this became a HUGE hotbutton for me. Simultaneously guarenteed to enrage me and cut me to the bone in one shot.

Until recently. Until one special man helped me to realize that being His slut is a beautiful thing. It took me a long time to be able to believe that he really didn't mean this in a bad way, that he didn't think any less of me when he used this word. In fact, his feelings for me are even stronger - because of the relationship we share. One which allows me to be his slut, without guilt or worry, free to enjoy the sensations he creates. The word isn't an insult anymore. Coming from his mouth, it's an endearment - and it's one of my favorites.

~ nixie




feline -> RE: Being called "slut" (8/31/2004 6:51:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetpleaser

I personally do not like being called a slut. Back when I was going to high school, slut meant you slept around. I am monogamous (and kinky). Maybe my frame of mind is still in the seventies.[8|]

take care,
ann



Being called a slut along with a few other choice words is a hard limit for me. They aren't a turn-on, nor do they give me a warm fuzzy feeling. I don't find them endearing. In a relationship I ask the same amount of respect you would ask from me. And I don't find such words respectfull. My own quirk maybe, oh well. I have been lucky enough to find Doms/Masters who didn't feel the need to degrade me in that way.

If it works for you, more power to you.


Take care,

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LadyShoshin -> RE: Being called "slut" (8/31/2004 10:07:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DesirousSub25


I will say right here and right now, I am not interested in being a pain slut. As a matter of fact, I will not be referred to as a slut by anyone. In my mind, "slut" is a very dishonorable word, and I will not tolerate it. I am not into pain at all. I'm only into love and sex and being domiated in the bedroom.

What I love about this lifestyle is there is acceptance for a myriad of ways of living the lifestyle. Within the SW Ontario community "slut" is not derogatory, as in I am a chain slut and a flogger slut and a cane slut. I can't get enough of them when I am bottoming. Call me tramp or whore & ya got a fight on yer hands. I enjoy pain, both giving & receiving, but my way is not the only way or the most right way, it is the right way for me. If someone calls you slut, I would give them the benefit of the doubt and politely inform them that you don't appreciate the title. Once they know your preference, if they continue, then is the time to get pissy.

I hope you find what you are looking for and that it brings you a world of joy.




snowleopard -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/1/2004 3:29:27 AM)

I too am another who owns a copy of The Ethical Slut it was one of the first books I ever went and searched for when hubby and I realised we were poly.

However I never really had a problem with being called a slut it's not something I have ever considered to be derogatory, the term we used when I was growing up was "slag" so whilst I will turn into jelly and feel proud if my partner calls me his slut if he ever called me a slag I suspect he'd get punched right on the nose *laughs*.




WayHome -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/1/2004 11:03:09 PM)

Question: "What do you call a male slut?"
Men can certainly exhibit "slutty behavior", so why don't they get called sluts? (exceptions for the ocasional sissy sub of course)


The answer is: "You call him a 'stud'".
Kinda puts a whole new perspective on the word for a lot of people, realizing just how much the negativity is related to gender roles.


Leto




pagan -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/2/2004 2:58:30 AM)

My mind constantly fills with images and thoughts, ideas of what I can do, what I want to try, how I want to behave. My thoughts don’t necessarily co-incide with what society will accept. I have a lover – a damn good lover – who I choose to fuck on every possible occasion. Now I do not love this man – don’t in particular know him all that well – don’t know his full name or even phone numbers – only an email address and his home address when he is in town - but damn the sex is better than fantastic so I choose to fuck him every time he contacts me. Does this make me a wicked, wanton slut or just a confident sexually active woman – I guess that is just a matter of opinion.

In my opinion every word in the human language has a particular meaning for each individual who hears it - I mean your past experiences etc colour your perception and understanding of what is really meant by a particular word. I dont consider my choice in this situation to be wrong or immoral and I have been frank with a possible life partner that at this stage I am not prepared to give up my lover - not for them and when I do it will probably be when he chooses to move on.

Thank you for the food for thought.




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