SteelofUtah
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ORIGINAL: barelynangel However, you choose to be fat and yet you want to cry false when people don't find your attractive or want a relationship with you and call them shallow.. interesting. Actually I never cried false I simply was pointing out the Shallowness of the OP's and apparently your own needs. If a NEED for you is that a person look a certain way yes by definition it is Shallow and Superficial. It not bad but don't fool yourself into believing that it's not Shallow because it is the DEFINITION of shallow (See Above Post) quote:
ORIGINAL: barelynangel IF you want a woman who doesn't like fat Men to be interested in you and chooses NOT to be interested in you because she doesn't like YOUR choices for yourself, that is not being shallow, its simply you having to deal with the consequences of YOUR decision to be fat. Actually that has never even been an issue both andi and caryn are not generally attracted to heavy men but they actually got to know me as a person before pulling me out of the rotation, you see they have substence and were not willing to write someone off over something as simple as their outward appearance and instead looked to the person INSIDE the one that matter and the one that they have both come to love. Had they cast me off because of weight it would always have been THEIR loss not mine, I have no real need for shallow and superficial in my life. I find Vapid wastes of skin who judge on the things that change like , hair, looks, weight to be wastes of time. They will spend more time watching themselves deterioriate and becomeing more and more high maintenance and I am just not willing to waste my energy on that. Instead I seek out people who what to know the things that don't change, My Integrity, My Honor, and My Capasity to Love Genuinely. quote:
ORIGINAL: barelynangel PEOPLE don't have to find it attractive or accepting it in everyone and not being selective as far as appearance. Its not shallow, its called i like what i like, and i don't like people who appear overweight as a choice for someone in my relationships THATS the right of people and choosing who they want to be with includes a lot of things and YEAH ONE OF THOSE IS APPEARANCE. Again see the definition of SHALLOW. If you don't care for the word that is fine but you should understand the definition FITS. You have chosen to exclude a whole group of people for no other reason other than looks which in the great scheme of things is so minute as to what makes a person that you exclude before getting a full understanding and that is in and of itself SHALLOW! quote:
ORIGINAL: barelynangel Okay you asked so i will be honet based on the fact you are 100 lbs overweight. Honestly, okay you say you are 100 lbs overweight what needs would i believe could not be met -- now mind you this is based on say a first hello --- NOT SOMEONE with intimate knowledge of you that they initially decided your weight doesn't bother them -- i also would have to SEE you in order to generate a full opinion but here are some basics i could see an initial hello and meeting could generate as you are incapable because of your appearance -- On this I will call Bullshit Based on the things you state below which are judgements made without knowing the person inside I will ellaborate below. quote:
ORIGINAL: barelynangel 1) you would appear to me to be a man of very little self discipline because you choose to be overweight so i would have a hard time seeing how you could meet my needs of discipline and mastery when you haven't mastered yourself , Shallow - Based on the fact that you have no idea about my personal discipline. I happen to be a Recovering Drug Addict of 5 years I show my personal discipline every day that I choose NOT to use drugs, and in the events that I have been confronted with drugs chose moderation and controled situations rather than the previously accepted behavior of Abuse and Excessive Use. If you base my Self Discipline based on something that I am Comfortable with you are putting your own self hating issues onto me because you don't like them in yourself. Again something that has it's base in being shallow. quote:
ORIGINAL: barelynangel 2) my sexual needs would be effected because i don't find fat men app, Shallow - I have heard this one MANY MANY MANY Times. Yet I have never had a complaint and they ALWAYS came back for seconds. This would leave to believe that your sexual needs would be met but you are unwilling to attempt because of your own shallow issues with Body Image. I could pipe my own horn on this as long as you like but I will let the fact that I have two very sexuall beings who live with me who are both equally satisfied sexually on a regular bases to again point out that the issue is based in your HEAD not in reality. You very well be sexually satisfied and those needs met on a purely CARNAL level however you aren't willing to get beyond the shallow issue of looks and body image. quote:
ORIGINAL: barelynangel 3) My respect for you would have to be analyzed because if you accept that in yourself, would you expect and accept it of me -- as i don't want a Man who would except that in me, Shallow in a very low kind of way - First off in the event that we were in a relationship I would certainly accept you as you are NO MATTER WHAT THAT MEANS. By your own Standard any man who gets with you should leave you when you turn 40 and your body starts showing the signs of aging. Unless you plan on going with the Full Gambit of Rhinoplasty in which case I again return to Shallow. If I were with you I would accept you for WHO YOU ARE. not what you look like because LOOKS they go with time. When was the LAST time you saw a smoking HOT woman in the Old folks home? quote:
ORIGINAL: barelynangel 4) what kind of example would you be for my children in this day and age where they are bombarded with eating healthy, weight control, and exercise, and these are just off the top of my head and not analyzed at all. So yeah, i could see how a Dom who is in shape and not overweight could very well have needs he wants met that he could see not happening with someone overweight. Shallow and actually insulting - My son is fed a balanced meal that is based on a healthy nutritional diet. All four food groups are always met and he is given adequate time at parks and in the yard to play and run and excersize. He gets a full nights sleep and is is only offered food during meal times and if he is hungry between meal times he gets apples or fruit and that is all. Just because I am Large does not mean I am deadset on the rest of the world being large and what you suggest in the above is not only insulting it is abusive. I would raise ANY child to live a HEALTHY lifestyle but I refuse to starve a child and I let a child eat until they are done or the plate is clean and the postions they get are approproiate for age. If they Struggle with weight and they do not like it then I will seek out nutritionalists or study up on my own baring being able to afford it. In all things I think it would be important to understand that just because someone is raised with someone who is a certain way does not mean they will be that way. This is proven time and time again when Gay couples have perfectly healthy and well adjusted Hetrosexual children. Or do you think that Homosexuals train thier kids to be Gay? I ask because that is basically what you are afraid I will do. quote:
ORIGINAL: barelynangel YOu want to make it WRONG for people to NOT want to find you appealing just because you are happy obese. Sorry it doesn't work like that, if you want to make people shallow for not finding you appealing due to your weight and your CHOICE to be that way, then they are allowed to find you lazy and not capable of meeting their needs for the same reasons. You can't have it both ways. You can't say they can't judge me and yet you judge them beause they don't agree with you. Actually I am just telling you that to say NEEDS are not being met because of someone's looks you are SHALLOW (Again SEE THE DEFINITION) quote:
ORIGINAL: barelynangel I don't know ONE PERSON here who would forgo their own needs for a relationship to passify some polticially correct BS of not finding fat people attractive and feel they need to passify the PC concept by accepting a fat person in a relationship when they aren't attracted to the person becasue of their weight. THAT is simply BS and its a ploy many fat people use to try and make those who don't want them for a relationship to be the BAD person instead of simply a person with different wants, needs and desires. And again I ask the question WHAT NEEDS are not able to be MET from a Persons LOOKS? What Needs that aren't superficial and SHALLOW!! It looks like you have an issue with being called shallow. You may want to just own what you are. Eeither show me how you AREN'T the definition that I offered or accept that you are just shallow in your choices. Mind you shallow is not a NEGATIVE word it is just a word that you see negatively. Again I suggest you own who you are. quote:
ORIGINAL: barelynangel Oh and that's not me, its an avatar, however, people who know me say she does look like me when i was a slave lol. Ahh memories. I am not as that picture is anymore, but i am hoping to be by next year lol or at least a 40 year old version of same. I find this most interesting. You comment about the BS Fat People Ploy, and then you use an Image that isn't you. So we can add Vain as well. Steel
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