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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 6:54:17 AM   
Underumam


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Status: offline 		This is a very good topic, and one that has kept me single for many years. There is intelligence as defined by a keen intellect, and there's common sense or "street smarts" which comes from experience. I've met some VERY intelligent people with high IQ's, who usually were not street smart enough to get out of a wet paper bag. lol  I've also met others who had average IQ's, but lots of street smarts who weren't capable of staying on top/in the lead intellectually..

As a submissive, if the Domina is not capable of at least keeping pace with me, or preferably able to remain slightly one step ahead, then how can she really be my superior? It seems to me that I would have to play at being her submissive/follower. This in turn would inevitably take on the appearance of topping from the bottom right?
Anyone else run into this quagmire?

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 6:59:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, and i have learned that tone of voice, and CHOICE of words is VERY FUCKING IMPORTANT!
Edited to add the smiley!


< Message edited by breatheasone -- 12/7/2009 7:22:21 AM >

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 7:13:29 AM   
Underumam


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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

Yes, and i have learned that tone of voice, and CHOICE of words is VERY FUCKING IMPORTANT!


Were you addressing me Candy?

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 7:15:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Underumam

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

Yes, and i have learned that tone of voice, and CHOICE of words is VERY FUCKING IMPORTANT!


Were you addressing me Candy?


my apologies....i didn't mean any disrespect, truly.


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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 7:17:17 AM   
Underumam


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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

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ORIGINAL: Underumam

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

Yes, and i have learned that tone of voice, and CHOICE of words is VERY FUCKING IMPORTANT!


Were you addressing me Candy?


my apologies....i didn't mean any disrespect, truly.



None taken. I was unsure if what I said offended you or something. (I'm still on my first cuppa) lol.

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 7:23:43 AM   
UniqueRaven


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Status: offline 		There are many different types of intelligence - 7 or 9 types, depending upon who you ask.  Our traditional definitions are a bit rigid - and IQ is only one measurement.

i'm very intelligent - i learn quickly, i'm empathic, i understand nature and the natural world, and i'm good with writing and putting my thoughts into words.  However i'm not very creative, athletic, able to think spatially, and definitely not smart with numbers and frequently not with people, even though i am charismatic - my life's enigma.

So for me, it is important that a Master be more self-aware than intelligent as traditionally defined - and that he uses that self-awareness to be successful in one major aspect of his life, whether as an athlete, an artist, a physicist, a banker, a lawyer, a politician, etc. etc.  He needs to be able to be passionate about something, and be able to talk with me and teach me more about himself and his passions.  i have met so many amazing and wonderful men through this lifestyle, including my current Owner.  And every one of them has had a different story to tell, and i've enjoyed learning more about each of them in their own unique way.

i have met many amazing and wonderful men who many other women would have written off to start with because they had poorly written profiles, bad spelling, wrote initial messages in one sentence, and misspellings in emails and chat.  Which is a shame.  Often these men are too busy and focused on their passions and their careers to want to spend a bunch of time learning how to type, or their fingers are too big, hee hee!  i've known many senior executives now and the one thing they all share in common is that "presence" - not necessarily the use of spell check.  i say give everyone a chance, keep your eyes wide open, do your due diligence, and then make a decision.

i do have a bit of a power fetish, so i tend to go for more of the "Master of the Universe" type when it ultimately comes down to who i serve - but that's just me. 

As far as your question on psychology and health, i do think it's important that he show a protective instinct and a desire to move in a thoughtful, methodical way that keeps my best interests in mind.  i don't expect him to have read every kinesiology, physiology, and psychology book out there.  Also, being given a way to communicate with him if something is on my mind or concerns me as well is important, if he just shuts me down that's when i have a much bigger concern.

The one deal-breaker, for me, is if he speaks to me up front in text-speak, or texts me in that fashion.  Bleah.  Show me you've taken a little bit of time to put some thought into what you say. 

julie

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 9:22:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I prefer men to have equitable intelligence. I don't mind if they haven't had as much college if they know something well that might catch my interest. I don't mind if they have degree's up the wazoo, as long as they don't assume they can talk down to me.. OR, drone on in lecture form thinking it should interest me.

I adore intelliegence but I abhor know-it-alls.

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 10:17:54 AM   
afterforever


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Status: offline 		What UniqueRaven said. I have quite a high IQ and all I use it for is doing the sudoku at super speed. As long as a D-type complements me in other areas, can converse at a suitable level, has found something to be passionate about and has something that he can teach me, I do not require proof of MENSA membership before we go on a first date.

As far as psychology and health goes, it would be nice if he knew something about it so I can talk about my work, but I know enough to keep myself safe, so common sense on his part is all that's required.

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 10:18:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: HisSweetElysium

pretty much verbatim what I wrote 



You are pretty intelligent for what I know.....still you found someone more intelligent?
Lucky him ;)

I find it hard to call people intelligent..there are freaks who are intelligent...still I don't want them. BY time..I prefe street smart..of people that come with small wishdoms that push you forward in life. Sometimes they don't even have much education.
But completely stupid..mmm...propably wouldn't handle me...me constantly correcting them.

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 11:48:11 AM   
sexyred1


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Status: offline 		I never meet any one more intelligent than me. But that is not a requirement.

What is a requirement is being self aware, strength of character and ability to communicate, both speaking and listening.

I find that no matter what the IQ level, if a man does not possess self knowledge, he will never understand me; as a sub or a woman.

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 11:48:28 AM   
HisSweetElysium


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Status: offline 		kiss kiss D, I'm too dorky to not be with an intellectual; I prowl the Ivy league schools in the area to pick up my men! 

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 12:55:20 PM   
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i like to be intellectually engaged. i couldnt be with anyone stupid because to be honest id just have to run rings round them, its a bad kink in my personality (amongst others ).

it makes me laugh when im out manoevered, i like it, it makes me feel like im with someone with a stronger will than my own. ill buckle down and be good when i know and feel that the brain power propelling the guy has the capacity to get inventive, creative and edgy.

its all about complete control and since my brain never seems to switch off from its jabberish, having someone able to focus me works on all those levels.

for me intelligence is attractive and horny - they could look like hell in a basket, but if theyre brain is on fire then so am i.

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 2:49:32 PM   
NymphetamineGirl


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Status: offline 		My master and I are both intelligent, but he is more observant and I am more intuitive, perhaps. I like that he's smarter than me because it enables me to submit and trust even if I don't agree with him. I have never regretted it. He also has a background is psychology LOL which has helped immensely in sorting out some issues that have come up during play ( and outside of it). Glad you asked, always nice to find more evidence what a god master I have :)

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 3:09:40 PM   
littleone35


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Status: offline 		My Master is more educated than i . I tease him that he can put 18(yes we counted them) letters after his name. He has 2 Masters degrees and i have a assocates degree (which i am proud of). In intelligence we are pretty evenly matched. More educated does not alwasys mean smarter. My Master is though very intelligent . I wanted someone I could talk to out of bed as well as in. he fits the bill actually he fits all my "bills".

Matt's littleone

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 4:23:55 PM   
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Heh...I prefer them big and stupid.




ROFL! I was hoping somebody would say that in this thread.

Um, you have a dominant right? I hope for the safety and health of your behind that he doesn't read the message board! :P

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 9:05:21 PM   
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< Message edited by sravaka -- 12/7/2009 9:06:46 PM >

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 10:43:03 PM   
Hierodule


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Status: offline 		I think there are different forms of intelligence. Howard Gardner has a pretty cool theory of multiple intelligences which divides intellect into eight forms: linguistic, logic-mathematical, musical, visual/spatial, bodily kinesthetic, naturalist, interpersonal and intrapersonal. In other words someone who is great with the written language might get lost in their own city because they lack visual/spatial intelligence. A dancer might be horrible at math etc. I guess what I am trying to say is, maybe some people are looking for one kind of intelligence in their partner, and don't care so much about the others.

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/7/2009 10:59:29 PM   
BKSir


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Status: offline 		Me think smart am much good for have.

In all seriousness though, I like this topic and find it interesting.  From the opposite side of the coin, I prefer a sub with some solid brain-power as well.  Now, I'm not asking that he be an absolute genius, but, I like someone I can converse with about my hobbies and interests, someone who can play devils advocate and make me think just as much as I can make him think.

It's not solely about the amount of knowledge he has though, in fact that's a minor bit.  It's more important, in my eyes, that he has the desire to keep learning, to question and to seek constantly.  I'm very glad that I've found such a pet as well.  He's one of the few people I know that don't seem to find it odd that I have a folder in my browser full of research paper links and shelves full of books on everything from cooking to quantum theory, from art to philosophy.  I find it amazingly funny and adorable that when I ask him to retrieve a book or two for me, he inevitably comes back in the room, reading one of them.  And when I'm working on something, he's there looking over my shoulder trying to learn almost without fail.

I suppose it could be likened to an extreme curiosity probably.  But to me it's an admirable trait in a sub, in what I think of when I think of a dom, and in a human in general.

The problem is though, with my own curiosity, I just know that my last words will be something like "Hm?  What is that thing?  Ow!... damnit......."



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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/8/2009 4:22:32 AM   
lizi


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Status: offline 		Any type of a lasting relationship is usually founded on similarities and compatibility so yes, I would like my Dom to be at my level of intelligence. I have rarely been disappointed in this though since as others have pointed out intelligence comes in many shapes and forms.

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RE: Dominance and Intelligence - 12/8/2009 4:46:05 AM   
Elizabeth666


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Status: offline 		I wouldn't say Sir is more intelligent than me, nor I more intelligent than Him. The knowledge we have and share compliment each other. Also, there are certain things He knows more about than me and vice versa, so we talk and learn from each other.

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