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Also, when I refer to the boys on the docks, that isn't his company property sweetie, that is the public dock where the men (and women) bring in their catch, and while probably questionable at best, it certainly isn't anything to do with his business, it just makes the guys have an easier time choosing who to sell their product to and buy their bait and gear from, the average joe or the attractive cool chick that buys them a beer on Fridays and every once in a blue moon has a smoke with them after business hours *not* on my company property, guess who had the advantage? Yeah me. Oh and the fact that we pay more per pound and pay it daily. In case you hadn't heard, lobstering and the whole marine industry in Maine is a multi million dollar business so you can get prissy about my snatch all you want, I'll continue to make money by skill, marketing, and if it takes a little sex appeal and hanging out for an hour or two on Friday afternoons with the hardest working men I know, well fuck me, I didn't create that concept. Besides, I thought it was us feminists that were all uptight and frigid?

This has to be one of the most hypocritical things I've ever read. I read the feminist thread, and was appalled by the viciousness of the "catfighting" and the hateful comments that were thrown back and forth at women by women. One of the comments that had me shaking my head in disbelief was made towards Elisabella by you Aynne, regarding her relating how debilitating and painful her menstrual cycle could be. I couldn't believe that one woman could be so insensitive to the fact that another woman could suffer through serious menstrual conditions such as dysmenorrhea, PCOS, and PMDD to name a few. Instead of taunting or jeering such a condition, you might instead be grateful that evidently you've never had to suffer through excessively painful or physically debilitating periods.
 
I am fairly new to these boards, and wasn't planning on posting in this thread...but the hypocrisy here is just mindboggling to me. In this posting, you seem to suggest that the ends justify whatever means to make the sale. Yet, in the same post, you refer to yourself as a feminist. Personally, I've always held the belief that the key concept of feminism was to promote the value of equal pay and opportunity for equal work and merit. Your boasting of using "sex appeal" to give you an edge with the men you are competing with completely belies and contradicts this point in my opinion. It is just really ironic that the argument over the cheerleading issue was being made that it promotes the message to girls that their "worth" or "value" is based on their looks or their bodies.
 
I happen to be an educator and worked to put myself through college to earn a degree. I was hired for my job as a teacher based on my credentials and ability. I guess I misunderstood the premises of feminism and didn't realize it meant that I should use my looks to give me a competitive edge over a man, rather than focusing on my intelligence and merit.
 
Oh, and I suppose that posturing as an "uber bitch" (based on how many times you've used that expression) and pointing a gun at a camera is supposed to convey "I am woman, hear me roar?"  I don't think that is how Helen Reddy intended it.
 
 

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This has to be one of the most hypocritical things I've ever read. I read the feminist thread, and was appalled by the viciousness of the "catfighting" and the hateful comments that were thrown back and forth at women by women. One of the comments that had me shaking my head in disbelief was made towards Elisabella by you Aynne, regarding her relating how debilitating and painful her menstrual cycle could be. I couldn't believe that one woman could be so insensitive to the fact that another woman could suffer through serious menstrual conditions such as dysmenorrhea, PCOS, and PMDD to name a few. Instead of taunting or jeering such a condition, you might instead be grateful that evidently you've never had to suffer through excessively painful or physically debilitating periods.
 
I am fairly new to these boards, and wasn't planning on posting in this thread...but the hypocrisy here is just mindboggling to me. In this posting, you seem to suggest that the ends justify whatever means to make the sale. Yet, in the same post, you refer to yourself as a feminist. Personally, I've always held the belief that the key concept of feminism was to promote the value of equal pay and opportunity for equal work and merit. Your boasting of using "sex appeal" to give you an edge with the men you are competing with completely belies and contradicts this point in my opinion. It is just really ironic that the argument over the cheerleading issue was being made that it promotes the message to girls that their "worth" or "value" is based on their looks or their bodies.
 
I happen to be an educator and worked to put myself through college to earn a degree. I was hired for my job as a teacher based on my credentials and ability. I guess I misunderstood the premises of feminism and didn't realize it meant that I should use my looks to give me a competitive edge over a man, rather than focusing on my intelligence and merit.
 
Oh, and I suppose that posturing as an "uber bitch" (based on how many times you've used that expression) and pointing a gun at a camera is supposed to convey "I am woman, hear me roar?"  I don't think that is how Helen Reddy intended it.
 
 

Thank you for that. I know I went off on Aynne in that thread, but at the time I was in bed taking slightly above recommend doses of panadol with codeine and hurting to sit up, and to be told that I was a 'drama queen' for something I was going through at the time just really set me off.

Part of me feels like I want to apologize but we've had enough conversations since then that the part of me that does want to apologize is being overriden by the part of me that doesn't want to apologize to her.

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Chimpanzees have boats?

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Chimpanzees have boats?

Bananna boats, perhaps?

Ron

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there was not logic behind "women and children first". It is based on a remark of 1 captain.
Noble though.

This is just a guess, but I would think that it's based on the idea that if you save the children, you save the future, mixed in with a little chivalry.

- LA

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ORIGINAL: Justme696

Chimpanzees have boats?

Bananna boats, perhaps?

Ron

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Chimpanzees have boats?

Bananna boats, perhaps?

Ron

No, in fact they will not cross water, even a tiny stream - but they do have centripetal defensive responses to threats to the group, in which Alpha males are the front line of defense.

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

I now have Harry Belafonte running through my head.

I hope you fuckers are happy!



Jeff

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It's just later when I look back on it rationally that I feel like an idiot.

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ORIGINAL: Justme696

there was not logic behind "women and children first". It is based on a remark of 1 captain.
Noble though.

This is just a guess, but I would think that it's based on the idea that if you save the children, you save the future, mixed in with a little chivalry.

- LA

Its complicated - a lot of it has to do with male:female ratios and economics in high density populations - i.e., monogyny preserves the male:female ratios on a roughly one to one basis, and enforcing feminine chastity provides paternity assurances to males - i.e., they are assured the children they are providing for, devoting their time and resources to, and who will inherit whatever they accumulate are their actual genetic progeny - Chivalry is compensation for keeping women on a short leash, since we aren't an essentially monogamous species.

In d/s, it;'s just more literal, lol, but it accomplishes much the same thing, i.e., they are both ways of compensating for the resulting boredom or restlessness of social confinement, it just depends on what you find more gratifying.

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The patriarchy is just shit men came up with to do while women were caught up in their drama.

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All of your reproductive politics revolves around the biological fact that women only ovulate once a month, but men have to turn over their semen about every Three days, after which it's motility declines rapidly, number One.

Number Two, females bear almost the entire brunt of reproductive costs, male reproductive costs are negligible, merely semen.

The rest is about women finding men to help defray their reproductive costs, men protecting their investments.

I never said it was pretty, but that's how it is - the rest is about finding ways to keep it interesting while we try to get away with shit.

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hypocritical is claiming you'r a dom when all you want to do is humiliate and abuse her and other nasty stuffs