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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 5:34:47 PM   
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Why spend so much time typing about it if you don't care?

You're only responding to the posts you can fight with.  Face it.  You're here to fight and get pissed.  You'll get what you're looking for, too.  Congratulations.


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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 5:40:55 PM   
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In fact, it apparently remains a Gorean paradise.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 5:42:01 PM   
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Why spend so much time typing about it if you don't care?

You're only responding to the posts you can fight with.  Face it.  You're here to fight and get pissed.  You'll get what you're looking for, too.  Congratulations.

Who are you talking to?

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 5:45:23 PM   
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It fits both of you, though if you had looked at the bottom right of my post, you would have seen that I was responding to Psychonaut.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 5:47:08 PM   
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If think we could settle this Gorean question by having a show of hands as to who plays golf on Jupiter?

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 6:00:20 PM   
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Again, was at work all day and missed out on the party- but again one caught my eye-

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Studies indicate that kinksters, BDSMr's, etc., tend to be healthier psychologically than the general population, less depression etc. - depression rates among vanilla married women in particular, tend to be much higher.


I was happily following along your posts, but need to insert that this strikes me as Truthiness- the sort of thing that we tell ourselves because it seems like it should be true, but isn't.
My experience, as alluded to in an earlier post, is that there are more fucked up people here than in the general population.
Not that BDSM causes any of it, just that fucked up people are more likely to seek out the fringes of society. Or as the old country saying goes- "people live at the end of the road for a reason."

Also-

quote:

As an algorithmic information parsing technique, I tend to compare arguments, which are invariably based on some sort of paradigm model/construct, to the the most up to date objective consensus paradigm construct for symmetry, objective defined as the most robust consensus model yadda yadda yadda...


We get it- you work in computer programming. You have your insider jargon- I have mine, everyone has some they can sling around. Somewhere in that dense black hole of a sentence is a thought struggling to escape. In all honesty, I would love to hear it.

I really wouldn't want to torture everyone in here with my thoughts on the post-Contextualist subtended metaphors implicit in the dialogue between the architects of the Ticino region in the late 90's.

Because so help me God, if I have to I will.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 6:23:30 PM   
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Ooops I saw the part about preferring your women unmarried. Ah unrequited love. So sad. Yeah I might stay now. 


Not even remotely. I don't fall for those who are unavailable yet throw themselves at others. I no longer have an account because honestly, I got tired of the two-faced antics of people who bash me on the forums, and then e-mail me saying they agreed with me. If you agree with me here, do so where you can be seen, like Elisabella.


That wouldn't fix the problem - it's still possible to send you private messages.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 6:29:10 PM   
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The gun at  the camera pic was taken by my Man he thought it was hot and was a joking respone to the psssst....your gun isn't loaded comment made to me by Loki last night.


Now we know you're delusional. I made no such comment, ever. That was Lucienne. Though I can understand why you would attribute it to me -- you think it makes your weak argument stronger. It doesn't. I made no comment regarding guns at all until you posted the pic and the comment I made about it was that you display poor gun safety.


Not delusional hon, just mistaken....you know, human. My deepest regrets.


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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 6:30:26 PM   
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Ooops I saw the part about preferring your women unmarried. Ah unrequited love. So sad. Yeah I might stay now. 


Not even remotely. I don't fall for those who are unavailable yet throw themselves at others. I no longer have an account because honestly, I got tired of the two-faced antics of people who bash me on the forums, and then e-mail me saying they agreed with me. If you agree with me here, do so where you can be seen, like Elisabella.


That wouldn't fix the problem - it's still possible to send you private messages.



I love you thorn. Thanks and Happy New Year!


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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 6:32:08 PM   
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That wouldn't fix the problem - it's still possible to send you private messages.


Really? Give it a try and let me know how that works for you. The "private message" icon links to a CM profile. If none exists, you're shit out of luck.


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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 6:33:33 PM   
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Hmm. How about we just acknowledge that we are very different women, and stop the sniping bullshit, both sides of it, and debate without namecalling and you don't owe me an apology, just perhaps we could be both be a bit more civil or at least not so quick to attack without giving the posts of each other actual consideration and taking them for what they are? It's better than this.



I can deal with that.


Thanks Elisabella, so can I. It's a start.


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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 6:36:32 PM   
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Not delusional hon, just mistaken....you know, human. My deepest regrets.


Now that is an honest and mature reply. You'd have saved yourself so much time 6 pages ago if you'd done that from the beginning. I'm not against self-defense, nor the owning of firearms (unlike your buddy kitten who thinks they should all be destroyed). Truth be told, had you not replied as you did, I was just as likely to come back and ask what model you're holding, as I'm in the market for my next one and open to suggestions.

However, though I am for gun ownership and have owned and will own guns myself, I just don't see the need to give the anti's anything more to bitch about. They are already for taking the guns and revoking our 2nd amendment rights. We fight that by saying we are responsible owners and can own and operate our firearms safely. We shoot ourselves in the foot (no pun intended) when we have a plethora of pics online showing us aiming them at a camera.


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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 6:45:07 PM   
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Oops new page:

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex


Again, was at work all day and missed out on the party- but again one caught my eye-

quote:

ORIGINAL: xssve
Studies indicate that kinksters, BDSMr's, etc., tend to be healthier psychologically than the general population, less depression etc. - depression rates among vanilla married women in particular, tend to be much higher.


I was happily following along your posts, but need to insert that this strikes me as Truthiness- the sort of thing that we tell ourselves because it seems like it should be true, but isn't.
My experience, as alluded to in an earlier post, is that there are more fucked up people here than in the general population.
Not that BDSM causes any of it, just that fucked up people are more likely to seek out the fringes of society. Or as the old country saying goes- "people live at the end of the road for a reason."

Also-

quote:

As an algorithmic information parsing technique, I tend to compare arguments, which are invariably based on some sort of paradigm model/construct, to the the most up to date objective consensus paradigm construct for symmetry, objective defined as the most robust consensus model yadda yadda yadda...


We get it- you work in computer programming. You have your insider jargon- I have mine, everyone has some they can sling around. Somewhere in that dense black hole of a sentence is a thought struggling to escape. In all honesty, I would love to hear it.

I really wouldn't want to torture everyone in here with my thoughts on the post-Contextualist subtended metaphors implicit in the dialogue between the architects of the Ticino region in the late 90's.

Because so help me God, if I have to I will.



Try this then.

W/regards to the objective consensus reality model, otherwise known as science, it's hard to describe the dynamic in any other way without it being mistaken as an appeal to authority - it is essentially a consensus, it just happens to be backed up by empirical evidence and replicable experimental data.

It being the information age, and a media dominated by society, parsing the constant stream of information is rapidly becoming a critical survival skill, considering how many people are lying to me from every conceivable direction - which, I'm not sure compares symmetrically with post modernist cocktail party chatter, however fascinating.

For instance: it is empirically demonstrable that home prices cannot rise indefinitely while incomes are declining, there is something askew with that model, i.e., limited downside, unlimited upside - it doesn't compute, the world doesn't work that way, in fact you can pretty much safely assume the exact opposite most of the time.

Roubini warned of it, Mark Pittman, hell even Eliot Spitzer was throwing flags, Li himself was aghast at the application of his formula but so many people believe in magic.

Meanwhile, Greenspan's paradigm model bade him do nothing,  the republicans had their own agenda based on whatever irrational model they ascribe to - probably Machiavelli, which nobody told them was a satire, and so it goes - sure it's a bit clunky for a narrative, I'll hone it down eventually, call it a first draft, I've been busy tying up other loose ends.

Otherwise, go right ahead wit de arkee-tek-tchur -  it's gotta be more interesting than exchanging vapid insults, or Gorean for that matter, no offense. I have no idea what was going on with architecture in Ticino in the late 90's, the only image I could google up on that information looked like a Gas and Grocery on steroids.

DO IT. I dare you.



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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 6:51:26 PM   
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Actually, belay that - save it for later, I've got to clean up and go celebrate the new decade - let us hope the teens are better than the naughts were - I'll be pessimistic tomorrow.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 6:58:21 PM   
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Try this then.

W/regards to the objective consensus reality model, otherwise known as science, it's hard to describe the dynamic in any other way without it being mistaken as an appeal to authority - it is essentially a consensus, it just happens to be backed up by empirical evidence and replicable experimental data.

It being the information age, and a media dominated by society, parsing the constant stream of information is rapidly becoming a critical survival skill, considering how many people are lying to me from every conceivable direction - which, I'm not sure compares symmetrically with post modernist cocktail party chatter, however fascinating.



Thanks for taking the comments in the spirit intended, and not getting pissy. All too rare around here.
BB King and I agree with you- "My momma says she loves me but she might be jivin too."

Which brings me back to the link- I don't put much stock in the study, which was part of a book sale, without any seeming peer review or vetting; its like Dr. Phil telling us in his new book that people who engage in long psychobabble with tv talk show hosts are happier and healthier than anyone else. A bit of self-interest there.
But more to the point- the good Doctor's research doesn't correlate with my life experience- so I opt for my own authority, rather than take his doctorate degree as the final word.

Of course, my life experience shouldn't impress anyone into accepting my point of view. Your mileage may vary, as they say.

p.s. And ixnay on the architecture- I get annoyed when even my fellow architects indulge in that crap.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 6:59:17 PM   
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In fact, it apparently remains a Gorean paradise.


WHY the fuck you think that's got a gawddamned thing to do with actual Goreans, I have no clue.

But you ARE doing a good job of presenting yourself as an example of unfounded, unreasonable, ignorant hatred...yet another misoGorist.


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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 7:03:53 PM   
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Pull up your IQ..Your ass is showing.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 7:06:18 PM   
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28 pages of pure enlightenment. Happy New year. It's looking bright.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 7:06:35 PM   
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Pull up your IQ..Your ass is showing.


Excuse me?? Since my name is in the lower right corner of your post, I assume you are addressing me.

wtf are you referring to?

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/31/2009 7:09:00 PM   
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That discussion you had with another poster. I just thought it was funny and a little ironic that someone that was boasting about being so smart would stoop to childish antics. 

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