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curious situation - 3/22/2006 7:10:25 PM   
fastlane


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Status: offline 		A submissive clenches her fist towards you, because she is mad.....for whatever reason?
How do you respond?  Become physical, become a mediator, whip her back into submission, dump her, talk it out, or decide to go back to sheep, who have big beautiful eyes, are soft and never argue...according to my friend?

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 7:12:39 PM   
Lashra


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Status: offline 		Talk to him/her they are a person first and a submissive secondly. Getting phyiscal could lead to abuse charges and/or someone getting badly hurt. A wise Dom/me tries to defuse a situation before it explodes if possible.
If you friend wants a sheep I've seen the blowup kind on some internet sex sites for sale. If you mean he wants to *break* his girl/boy so they are a mindless robot he isn't a Dom, he is an abusive pig. OINK OINK maybe a barn yard animal is right up his alley.

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 7:14:04 PM   
truesub4u


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Status: offline 		At least all I did was clenched my fist..... LOL.... been known to do more than that... depending on what you did that made me clench my fist to begin with.. 

(not refering to being the person the OP was speaking of)


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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 7:21:36 PM   
SimplyV


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Status: offline 		You mean shaking her fist? as in a physical threat?

First.. I'd call her on it. In a very calm, unthreatening tone.. much like you'd say "Pass the salt please".. I'd say.. "You angry at me? Good. I'm glad I can evoke such an emotional response. Means you have passion." or "If you don't plan on using it, you may want to put that away" and see what she says.

Then I'd talk things out. See what was going through her head, see if adjustments in the future might help or if things just aren't going to work.

Some subs like to fight back.. and they like to be "beaten into submission". If this isn't your kind of kink, then you may not be a good match for such a submissive.

A sub is bound to get pissed at some time. Talk it out. Define the problem. Then consider solutions.

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 7:21:40 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		Depends on the circumstance, but first thing I would do would be to raise my eyebrow.

Next would be to calm myself and then take a moment to get them calm as well.  Then we talk, lots.

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 7:35:21 PM   
fastlane


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Status: offline 		great advice...one and all, but too late.
L.A., do you ever sleep?
Anyway, she is currently tied and reading your responses as I determine whether to knock her out, or knock her socks off?
Kevin

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 7:37:41 PM   
MrDiscipline44


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Status: offline 		I stayed calm, chuckled abit and waited to see what she would do next. Usually this is with a smirk on my face because an angry woman can be the cutest thing. At least the ones I've had were. The smart ones would calm down and talk to me about what they're feeling and why.

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 7:45:15 PM   
jennalynn


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Status: offline 		i have never clenched my fists, but i have raised my voice and almost stomped my feet a few times........His action was to smirk, than remind me about EXACTLY who i was..   Never once failed to drop me to my knees quickly!

jenna

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 7:46:48 PM   
TemptingNviceSub


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Status: offline 		It would be the old intercourse/discourse thing......or ummm maybe discourse/intercourse?.....or........Ach! whatever you got the idea!....Tempting

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 7:54:17 PM   
amayos


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Status: offline 		Situationally relative, though in general all would come to an end and she would be dismissed immediately. Having said that, the scenario described has never occured in any of my relations. Therefore, my answer is somewhat based on conjecture.

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 7:57:43 PM   
angelgirl74


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Status: offline 		 Would Temper count in this thread as well..... i think He would fix that real quick!

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 7:58:38 PM   
IronBear


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Status: offline 		First off she would be kajira not subby..   Now I’d know if it was something I had said,  hadn’t said, done or hadn’t done.   Still there are severe penalties for a Gorean slave threatening any Free (unless ordered to by her Master).   Clenching her fists, shaking her fists, and even stamping her feet are what I’d expect from a child.   If she acts like a child she gets treated like a child. Clothes ripped/cut off, dragged by the hair to my chair and bent naked over my knee and disciplined hard.  Then the corner for a minimum of 30 minutes after which she will kneel (shouldn’t be able to sit happily yet) nadu before me and we talk… open discussion. Irrespective of the reason her punishment is for behavior not the reason..

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 8:00:49 PM   
slavejali


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Status: offline 		Well I've never clenched my fist at Master and I cant imagine myself ever doing it, but there was one time I was so totally frustrated that I picked up a pillow and hit him with it about 6 times, he just looked at me and then we talked.

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 8:06:02 PM   
amayos


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ORIGINAL: slavejali

Well I've never clenched my fist at Master and I cant imagine myself ever doing it, but there was one time I was so totally frustrated that I picked up a pillow and hit him with it about 6 times, he just looked at me and then we talked.


*Laughs

Well, in that scenario I might be willing to talk...after I poured the contents of the pillow on her head.

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 8:06:15 PM   
DragonNphoenix


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ORIGINAL: fastlane

great advice...one and all, but too late.
L.A., do you ever sleep?
Anyway, she is currently tied and reading your responses as I determine whether to knock her out, or knock her socks off?
Kevin


If it was me in the situation, i would keep her bound until she calmed down enough to talk to me.  If it was something that I had done, i would expect her to tell me exactly what was wrong.

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 8:08:24 PM   
MHOO314


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ORIGINAL: fastlane

A submissive clenches her fist towards you, because she is mad.....for whatever reason?



Pent up rage and anger is not a D/s issue, it is a life issue---that is a classic demonstration of frustration, rage, anger that goes well beyond what you can do at that moment---I go to the number one rule---communicate---Stop what you are doing, sit them down, walk away and let them cool off---in a neutral zone---its time to communicate--major--if that doesn't happen---there are issues--you need to decide how willing you are to deal with them.

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 8:23:49 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		Calmly tell her to put her hands down, take off her clothes, get on her knees, and say everything she needs to say.  Then listen to what she says and respond accordingly.

quote:

ORIGINAL: fastlane

A submissive clenches her fist towards you, because she is mad.....for whatever reason?
How do you respond?  Become physical, become a mediator, whip her back into submission, dump her, talk it out, or decide to go back to sheep, who have big beautiful eyes, are soft and never argue...according to my friend?

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 9:03:20 PM   
MistressOfGa


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Status: offline 		IronBear,
I like your new photo. Very nice.

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 9:33:47 PM   
truesub4u


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Calmly tell her to put her hands down, take off her clothes, get on her knees, and say everything she needs to say.  Then listen to what she says and respond accordingly.



Isn't this where others have responded to the fact they do not have to listen if they are not in the mood to do so?

Everyones quick to jump on the band wagon of communication... but yet on the thread of cummincation.. most spoke of not having to... strange.. strange indeed.

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RE: curious situation - 3/22/2006 9:40:28 PM   
cravinspankin


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ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

IronBear,
I like your new photo. Very nice.


I noticed that, myself...
Very nice, indeed, if i may say so.

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