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tazzygirl -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/30/2010 6:11:14 PM)

I asked you for your opinion... and you give nothing. What is it about this you cannot, or wont, discuss?



Level -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/30/2010 6:17:19 PM)

You did more than ask for my opinion, you're teetering on twisting what I've previously said, with the first comment, and the second comment was, to be frank, mind-boggingly out there.

Rape is rape. What did I say to cause you to intimate that I think differently?



SilverMark -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/30/2010 6:21:29 PM)

A woman's right.....as a Man I don't believe, unless I am the father, I have much of right to voice a lot of opinions in the issue, as for Tim Tebow, He is perhaps as sincere a young man as there is. He holds his beliefs deeply and not only talks the talk, he walks the walk.
I am no Tebow fan, and being in the area where his parents live and he grew up, his name alone is enough to make me want to hurl but, if he says it, then he believes it and from what I have seen of his parents,if they have something to say then it is a sincerly held belief and they or she, have a right to their voice.
I got to meet Mr. and Mrs. Tebow very nice, very gracious people doesn't mean a thing aside from a personal observation. As a member of the Left in good standing, if someone wants to pay for the air time and it meets the FCC regulations.....SAY IT!....if Planned Parenthood wish to rebut whatever is said, buy the time and ....SAY IT!
Simple........it really is!



subrob1967 -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/30/2010 6:22:32 PM)

If you don't want to get knocked up, and won't stay celibate, learn to fucking swallow.



pyroaquatic -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/30/2010 6:35:19 PM)

Would a natural disaster be considered Pro-Choice?
Would Hitler's army of superbabies be considered Pro-Life?

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Ah but this is a serious issue. I will attempt to look at this logically.

It stands to reason that the Pro-Choice allows for Life if needed.
Pro-Life reasons that once life begins no one has the right to end it(unless you are Pro-Life but are for the Death Penalty).

hmmm....

Vegan Pro-Choice? Wait... would it be better suited if it were a Vegan Pro-Life.

How are we able to get past this issue while looking at it through the limit scope of humanity. Perhaps I see things differently and everyone else is crazy (riiiiiight).

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So let us say that Pro-Life is set into motion full scale. Condoms and birth control are straight out. How does over population solve any issues? I know not all of those in the Pro-Life camp are not Christians but from my (limited) understanding many Christians are in the Pro-Life.

Is it so they are able to spread the word of the Jesus through the populous in mass effect? Would not the overpopulation lead to a drain of resources and thus.... havoc, mayhem, and the 'balance of Humans to Resources' or as people say.....

Death??

Death is common end state, from what I understand.

Well. I am not too tired, so I do not know what my excuse is today. Do I make sense? Am I clear on this? Questions, Comments, Disparaging Remarks on how my Logic is solidly flawed?



willbeurdaddy -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/30/2010 6:46:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pyroaquatic


Well. I am not too tired, so I do not know what my excuse is today. Do I make sense?


Truthfully I find this post incomprehensible. I think it would take a pretzel to figure out exactly what youre saying! (That isnt meant as a disparaging remark, Im honestly unable to sort it out!)

I think this thread has outlived itself anyway. I think both the pro-choice and pro-life crowd agree that its their right to run their ad, and its CBS's right to accept or decline it. Anything else is just bitching about someone elses opinion.



Level -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/30/2010 6:48:12 PM)

Not all pro-lifers are against condoms and birth control, by a long shot.



truckinslave -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/30/2010 7:04:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Only an 18 year old can be raped? How about date rape? Or rape by a husband? Or a 40 year old woman who has been raped? Whats the difference between a woman who has been raped and a woman who does not want to be pregnant? In both instances, its an unwanted situation, no?


Paper cuts and gutshots are both wounds, no?



pyroaquatic -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/30/2010 7:29:55 PM)

Yes, this is a conjectured world.

:D

Anyways Willbeurdaddy, it makes perfect sense to me!

Are there not cells inside of the hand that are programmed to perish so that we may not have spatula hands?



tazzygirl -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/30/2010 7:43:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Only an 18 year old can be raped? How about date rape? Or rape by a husband? Or a 40 year old woman who has been raped? Whats the difference between a woman who has been raped and a woman who does not want to be pregnant? In both instances, its an unwanted situation, no?


Paper cuts and gutshots are both wounds, no?

You are comparing apples to oranges.

An unwanted pregnancy is just that... no matter the reason... and many women dont admit to date rape or rape by spouses. Either situation can lead to the mother hating the creation, despising her own life. Men for years bitched that if a woman opened her legs, she best be prepared to deal with the consequences on her own. Well, she has, and can, all on her own. Now men whine because they arent part of the decision process that is occuring in HER body.

CBS has every right to run the ads they chose. Many in the sports arena have voiced their objections to the superbowl, a national pasttime enjoyed by so very many, being used as a political sounding board.

As i have said before, when men can walk in a woman's "shoes", meaning... can carry and give birth... then they have a say in what happens to the baby.

And i applaud the use of the morning after pill. Just because a woman makes one mistake and gets pregnant doesnt mean she has to make another and tell the dad. men can be real idiots.



WildRebel -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/30/2010 8:18:51 PM)

When women can get pregnant without men, maybe we'll feel like our opinions are out of place. 



willbeurdaddy -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/30/2010 8:34:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl



An unwanted pregnancy is just that... no matter the reason



You continue to surpass yourself for absurdity.



truckinslave -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/30/2010 8:40:34 PM)

"As i have said before, when men can walk in a woman's "shoes", meaning... can carry and give birth... then they have a say in what happens to the baby."

1. Only the Senate declares war.
2. Only the President sends troops into war (declared or otherwise). 
3. Only men serve in combat arms in our armed forces.
     A. Only men register for the draft.
Therefore: only men can vote for President or Senator.

Every bit as sensible as your ... sentence... tazzy.



pyroaquatic -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/30/2010 8:51:37 PM)

All that is required is DNA and an EGG, I believe.



willbeurdaddy -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/30/2010 9:34:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pyroaquatic

All that is required is DNA and an EGG, I believe.



Soon you wont even need an egg, any ole DNA will do.



tazzygirl -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/31/2010 2:40:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

"As i have said before, when men can walk in a woman's "shoes", meaning... can carry and give birth... then they have a say in what happens to the baby."

1. Only the Senate declares war.
2. Only the President sends troops into war (declared or otherwise). 
3. Only men serve in combat arms in our armed forces.
     A. Only men register for the draft.
Therefore: only men can vote for President or Senator.

Every bit as sensible as your ... sentence... tazzy.


my sentence makes perfect sense to every woman. the fact that you can implant your seed makes you little more than a donor, takes more than a sperm donation to make a dad.

but, you... ahem... gentlemen... continue to believe you have a say in what occurs during a pregnancy. the constitution says you do not... and as much as you men insist you would love to see that changed, be thankful it doesnt. the welfare roles would climb, backstreet abortions would escalate, and the tax burden would be a huge toll on a budget this country cant afford as it is.



WyldHrt -> RE: Tom Tebow's Mom. (1/31/2010 3:32:02 AM)

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Well, you're right insofar as I don't know how anyone could fail to regret an abortion.

Obviously.
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Certainly no one in my family could, as far as I know.

Immaterial to the discussion, but the "as far as I know" bit is interesting.
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But that poses a dilemma about the airing of the ad, doees it not?

No, it doesn't
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Those who do not, truly, regret having an abortion will not be upset or offended by the commercial.

How the hell did you come to that particular conclusion? The fact that you have says quite a bit about your inability to understand what is really involved in such a decision. Clue by four- regretting the necessity of a decision is a different thing from regretting the decision itself.
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Those who do regret having had one should, I believe, be willing to help others come to the other decision.

It's nice that you believe that.
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Those who haven't had an abortion and are offended? Are they actually pro abortion?

I wouldn't know, obviously.



Lucylastic -> RE: Tom Tebow's Mom. (1/31/2010 4:36:43 AM)

Tazzy just be glad they dont have any input, beyond their moralizing...they will never have to deal with the prospect.
at least here they can be ignored.



thompsonx -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (1/31/2010 1:31:19 PM)

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if she gets to kill the baby, so do I.


No one gets to kill any babies. Killing babies is against the law. She gets the choice to abort the fetus because it is part of her body.

HST



DomImus -> RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. (2/1/2010 6:42:47 PM)

Terry O'Neill, the head of the National Organization for Women was just on Larry King with the head of the group paying for the Tebow ad. To listen to this woman any person expressing a pro-life opinion is attacking a woman's right to abortion. What an idiot.





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