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AnimusRex -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/7/2010 1:49:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl But thank you for your post, else i would have continued to miss Master Animus' reply to me, which im sure he will properly beat me for once he gets the chance. Have paddle, will travel.

tazzygirl -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/7/2010 2:01:53 PM)
[:)] sometimes men make it sooooooooo hard to be good! ~grins

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/7/2010 2:10:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth quote: God my love feels the same way and would actually really go to Venice. Nice place too. If you go stop in at Harry's for a Bellini and tell them we sent you. We enjoyed it so much we made it the signature drink at our wedding. quote: Yes Merc, I have also eaten at Nobu while there, and at all the celeb chef places, and been to front row seats for Cirque, blah blah it is still a plastic whore in the middle of a dreary desert and the ugliest place in the world by daylight. It's a broken place for broken people. Never been to Nobu - heard it was a dump where tourists go to overpay for bad food. In fact - I heard the last chef was so bad - he moved to Pittsburgh of all places! I've found that attitudes and the company of people I'm with make ugly place beautiful and beautiful places spectacular. Then again I guess the reverse is also true. Obviously it's been your experience in Vegas, among other places. the original Nobu in NY is awesome, the Nobu in Vegas is awful (or was about 2 years ago). I wouldnt waste a clients money there, much less my own. Sushi in Vegas is generally mediocre, overpriced or both. Caesar's is probably the best Ive had, but way overpriced. Mandalay Bay almost is good and not as expensive. For value the Japanese restaurant in the Palms is probably the best. (I only know one of the non-casino restaurants and it was a dive).

thompsonx -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/9/2010 10:38:32 AM)
still waiting. Merc: I am still waiting for you to tell me why it is a bad thing for the president to agree with you? He thinks it is a bad idea to spend the rent money in Vegas on gambling and you have said you feel the same way. Since you both feel the same way why are you slamming him for saying so? You have been unable to show any causal relationship between his statement and any downward turn in the Vegas economy.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/9/2010 10:59:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx still waiting. Merc: I am still waiting for you to tell me why it is a bad thing for the president to agree with you? He thinks it is a bad idea to spend the rent money in Vegas on gambling and you have said you feel the same way. Since you both feel the same way why are you slamming him for saying so? You have been unable to show any causal relationship between his statement and any downward turn in the Vegas economy. If you could comprehend you may not have had to wait so long. I think it is a bad thing for anyone who is President of the country to use a specific city as a bad example of where to spend money. I regret your inability to comprehend that very simple statement. You also are incorrect on the assumption that the President agrees with me. The President feels it necessary to decide for people what they should be doing with their money, disposable or otherwise. I disagree with that premise. It is not an example of self determination and consequences for personal decisions. Although I don't belief anyone who can't afford bread to buy a lottery ticket, it isn't the government's job to take his money away from him so he take make that decision and deliver a loaf of bread to him. Your inability to grasp the difference between an opinion, or my personal choice between where I go on vacation, or if I do at the expense of my child's education; and a lecture coming from the President which included a specific denigration of a local economy is obviously part of your learning disability.

thompsonx -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/9/2010 12:13:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx still waiting. Merc: I am still waiting for you to tell me why it is a bad thing for the president to agree with you? He thinks it is a bad idea to spend the rent money in Vegas on gambling and you have said you feel the same way. Since you both feel the same way why are you slamming him for saying so? You have been unable to show any causal relationship between his statement and any downward turn in the Vegas economy. If you could comprehend you may not have had to wait so long. I comprehend quite well it is you who is having trouble talking out of both sides of your mouth I think it is a bad thing for anyone who is President of the country to use a specific city as a bad example of where to spend money. Yet you have already agreed that you feel the same way. I regret your inability to comprehend that very simple statement. I would agree it is simple minded and contradictory You also are incorrect on the assumption that the President agrees with me. Once again you are busy talking out of both sides of your mouth. You have already agreed that you and the president are agreed on this point...read your own posts for fucks sake The President feels it necessary to decide for people what they should be doing with their money, disposable or otherwise. I disagree with that premise. It is not an example of self determination and consequences for personal decisions. I believe that is called a false premis...maybe you might want to look that up... You see this discussion is about the president admonishing people to not waste money that they need for essentials on things like gambling. It is not about your agenda. Please try to stay on track. Although I don't belief anyone who can't afford bread to buy a lottery ticket, it isn't the government's job to take his money away from him so he take make that decision and deliver a loaf of bread to him. Your inability to grasp the difference between an opinion, or my personal choice between where I go on vacation, or if I do at the expense of my child's education; and a lecture coming from the President which included a specific denigration of a local economy is obviously part of your learning disability. The learning disability is all yours, of which you have constantly reminded us. Your opinion and the president's are the same but you want to say his holding that opinion is wrong and you are right. Perhaps if you had actualy studied English while you were going to school on "daddys nickle" you would be able to percieve the foolishness of your position. still waiting. Merc: I am still waiting for you to tell me why it is a bad thing for the president to agree with you? He thinks it is a bad idea to spend the rent money in Vegas on gambling and you have said you feel the same way. Since you both feel the same way why are you slamming him for saying so? You have been unable to show any causal relationship between his statement and any downward turn in the Vegas economy. Perhaps next time you will actually answer my question instead of regurgitating your talking points.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/9/2010 12:25:38 PM)
quote: I believe that is called a false premis...maybe you might want to look that up... Your "beliefs" are wrong. quote: You see this discussion is about the president admonishing people to not waste money that they need for essentials on things like gambling Since I generated the discussion, my vision would be the only one that matters. My agenda has been served on many fronts - especially one you've added into it - pointing out your ignorance. Here again - and every time you ask is my "vision". I think it is a bad thing for anyone who is President of the country to use a specific city as a bad example of where to spend money. I regret your inability to comprehend that very simple statement. You also are incorrect on the assumption that the President agrees with me. The President feels it necessary to decide for people what they should be doing with their money, disposable or otherwise. I disagree with that premise. It is not an example of self determination and consequences for personal decisions. Although I don't belief anyone who can't afford bread to buy a lottery ticket, it isn't the government's job to take his money away from him so he take make that decision and deliver a loaf of bread to him. Your inability to grasp the difference between an opinion, or my personal choice between where I go on vacation, or if I do at the expense of my child's education; and a lecture coming from the President which included a specific denigration of a local economy is obviously part of your learning disability. quote: Perhaps if you had actualy studied English while you were going to school on "daddys nickle" you would be able to perceive the foolishness of your position. *Actually* is was the result of "nickles" won by my parents in the NJ lottery back in 1972. $50k went a lot further back in those days. Good thing they didn't listen, or have a President at the time, who thought the $0.50 better invested in my education. It may have resulted in me being as unable to understand this discussion as you. quote: Perhaps next time you will actually answer my question instead of regurgitating your talking points. Your question was answered. Not in the way you liked it to be - however I am not concerned about you living with your disappointment. You must be used to it by now.

thompsonx -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/9/2010 12:52:06 PM)
quote: Since I generated the discussion, my vision would be the only one that matters. My agenda has been served on many fronts - especially one you've added into it - pointing out your ignorance. Which position would that be the one in the OP or the one on page nine where you reveal a different agenda than your OP? Your position that you are speaking "ex Cathedra" is so charming. It may work with beth but for rest of us it is just so much posturing. By repaeting your canned answer you show the whole board your inability to actually comprhend the English language. Just because you want something to mean what you want it to does not make it so.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/9/2010 1:05:50 PM)
quote: Which position would that be the one in the OP or the one on page nine where you reveal a different agenda than your OP? I so much appreciate that the intent of this thread is beyond you. You have no need to continue to prove it. I'm convinced. quote: Your position that you are speaking "ex Cathedra" is so charming. It may work with beth but for rest of us it is just so much posturing. No comment - just want to use the appropriate color for you and your words. quote: By repaeting your canned answer you show the whole board your inability to actually comprhend the English language. Perhaps - but you've disclosed so much more, I mean beyond the obvious which is documented in the sentence quoted! Congratulations! quote: Just because you want something to mean what you want it to does not make it so. You should consider making that a 'sampler', a large one. The activity may help you focus. Who knows - if you have it as a daily reference it may be a path to self improvement. Good luck with that.

thompsonx -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/9/2010 2:43:50 PM)
quote: quote: By repaeting your canned answer you show the whole board your inability to actually comprhend the English language. Perhaps - but you've disclosed so much more, I mean beyond the obvious which is documented in the sentence quoted! Congratulations! Pointing out spelling errors is always easier than actually answering the question. But then you have refused to actually address the questions to you for 12 pages not so it is no suprise.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/9/2010 3:29:43 PM)
quote: Pointing out spelling errors is always easier than actually answering the question. Gee you spelled something wrong? You - wrong? Wow - who would have thought it possible! It was the only thing to address - your questions, by my count, have been answered 8 times - but I could be wrong since the number, like you, is of no relevance or worthy of concern. However - Let's make it nine...who knows it could be the number that gets through to you regarding the subject of this tread. I think it is a bad thing for anyone who is President of the country to use a specific city as a bad example of where to spend money. I regret your inability to comprehend that very simple statement. You also are incorrect on the assumption that the President agrees with me. The President feels it necessary to decide for people what they should be doing with their money, disposable or otherwise. I disagree with that premise. It is not an example of self determination and consequences for personal decisions.

tazzygirl -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/9/2010 3:57:43 PM)
Oh give it a rest Merc. If he hadnt, and said LV was a great place to go relax, you would be bitching and whining about his lack of leadership skills for the American public. This isnt the first a city has been held up as less than desirable.

thompsonx -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/9/2010 4:17:03 PM)
In Mercs world it is do as I say not as I do. Merc can say it is wrong for people to spend the rent money on gambling but not for the president. quote: I think it is a bad thing for anyone who is President of the country to use a specific city as a bad example of where to spend money. That is your problem Merc you do not understand what you read. The president did not pick Vegas as a bad example of where to spend money. The president urged people to not spend the rent money on gambling. He chose Vegas because it is synonymous with gambling...but then you knew all of this and this is your attempt to push your talking points. Do you have any idea how foolish you look repeating this drivel?

Mercnbeth -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/9/2010 4:57:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Oh give it a rest Merc. If he hadnt, and said LV was a great place to go relax, you would be bitching and whining about his lack of leadership skills for the American public. Now you assume to know something not relevant in any case. Obama did specify Vegas - Twice; so it is obviously in his mind as a place where money is wasted and people shouldn't go. His words show his lack of leadership experience, if not leadership ability. Would you tell one child doing poorly in school that they shouldn't go to a tutor because it would be a waste of resources to try to build up the confidence of another? Fundamentally wrong leadership to put any direct accountability in a negative light especially when they are struggling. This is only the latest example of not having the skills or experience necessary to lead. Its why I posed the original question if he really was a smart as those who voted for them thought he was. As stated I think he is, ant the two time faux pas discloses more than just his opinion of Vegas. quote: This isnt the first a city has been held up as less than desirable Really? When has a US city been represented by a sitting President as a place to avoid? Even when the NYC was denied a bail out back in the 70's the President who denied it at the time wished them luck. quote: That is your problem Merc you do not understand what you read. The president did not pick Vegas as a bad example of where to spend money Now you are in denial that he pointed specifically to Vegas? He didn't reference Atlantic City, nor any of the places having 'Indian Casinos', nor any of the Riverboats versions. His position is that the government knows best where a person should spend their money. It is against personal accountably and choice which is the exact opposite of my position. (#10)I think it is a bad thing for anyone who is President of the country to use a specific city as a bad example of where to spend money. I regret your inability to comprehend that very simple statement. You also are incorrect on the assumption that the President agrees with me. The President feels it necessary to decide for people what they should be doing with their money, disposable or otherwise. I disagree with that premise. It is not an example of self determination and consequences for personal decisions. quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Do you have any idea how foolish you look repeating this drivel? Next time you are in a library look up the definition of irony. I trust you don't have one at home and your internet research skills are dubious at best.

tazzygirl -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/9/2010 5:47:17 PM)
quote: Now you assume to know something not relevant in any case. Obama did specify Vegas - Twice; so it is obviously in his mind as a place where money is wasted and people shouldn't go. Now who has reading comprehension problems. I did not say he didnt say it twice. quote: His position is that the government knows best where a person should spend their money. It is against personal accountably and choice which is the exact opposite of my position. (#10)I think it is a bad thing for anyone who is President of the country to use a specific city as a bad example of where to spend money. I regret your inability to comprehend that very simple statement. Its not a comprehension problem. Its that i believe your opinion is full of bullshit.. about as much as you are. No comprehension needed for that. quote: Really? When has a US city been represented by a sitting President as a place to avoid? Even when the NYC was denied a bail out back in the 70's the President who denied it at the time wished them luck. Again, your reading comprehension skills are lacking. I never claimed it had been by another President, or this one. I said... quote: This isnt the first a city has been held up as less than desirable As far as the cities in question... compton, watts, camden... i could go on. quote: But the Watts riots of 1965 shattered that calm; white business owners fled so fast, as Filer's father, a longtime city councilman, once put it, "they were leaving their doors open." Conditions spiraled downward; a 1982 Rand study declared the city "a disaster area." http://www.newsweek.com/id/190871/page/2 And, to end this discussion.... Do we really have to go to the point of discussing the differences between telling people not to gamble away the rent... and a President ignoring the call of help from a city virtually underwater? Do we? You merely wish to whine... and only a couple are supporting your position. ~edited to add the newsweek link

thompsonx -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/9/2010 7:43:28 PM)
I see you have resorted to "cut and paste" since you lack the ability to discuss anything. You have no desire to discuss anything. All you do on this board is post your talking points. When people call you on your bullshit you malign their ability to understand you. In this thread you post an OP and then 9 pages later you tell us what you really meant,none of which was in your OP. Then you have the balls to actually chide a poster for not being able to read your mind. One would think that a man your age would have learned how to have a discussion...instead you speak to us as if you thought we were somehow your bitches and you can tell us how and what to think. Save that shit for the one who actually is your bitch.

SeekingAZ -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/10/2010 3:58:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth quote: God my love feels the same way and would actually really go to Venice. Nice place too. If you go stop in at Harry's for a Bellini and tell them we sent you. We enjoyed it so much we made it the signature drink at our wedding. quote: Yes Merc, I have also eaten at Nobu while there, and at all the celeb chef places, and been to front row seats for Cirque, blah blah it is still a plastic whore in the middle of a dreary desert and the ugliest place in the world by daylight. It's a broken place for broken people. Never been to Nobu - heard it was a dump where tourists go to overpay for bad food. In fact - I heard the last chef was so bad - he moved to Pittsburgh of all places! I've found that attitudes and the company of people I'm with make ugly place beautiful and beautiful places spectacular. Then again I guess the reverse is also true. Obviously it's been your experience in Vegas, among other places. the original Nobu in NY is awesome, the Nobu in Vegas is awful (or was about 2 years ago). I wouldnt waste a clients money there, much less my own. Sushi in Vegas is generally mediocre, overpriced or both. Caesar's is probably the best Ive had, but way overpriced. Mandalay Bay almost is good and not as expensive. For value the Japanese restaurant in the Palms is probably the best. (I only know one of the non-casino restaurants and it was a dive). You mean you ordered fresh, raw, seafood in the desert and it didn't turn out wonderful ? Who'd of thought. We fatten a lot of cows here, the steak is likely fresher than any fish you'll find here (unless you're looking for grass fed beef, anyway).

Mercnbeth -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/10/2010 6:05:49 AM)
quote: As far as the cities in question... compton, watts, camden... i could go on Arbitrary city names? The point you attempted to make was relevant to a sitting President denigrating a city - I'm happy to know your extensive research proved my believe - Obama is the first to do so. You want to congratulate him for it - I'm holding him accountable. Happy to differentiate from you in that regard. quote: Its not a comprehension problem. Its that i believe your opinion is full of bullshit.. about as much as you are Well, when your argument is reduced to insult - what else can you say. I respect yours and your right to have it. The fact that you resort to ignorant rantings and insults reflects on you but you must welcome it. quote: All you do on this board is post your talking points. Wrong - they aren't mine, they are factual references made by many outside your limited view which can't face opposition viewpoints without fear. Discussing other views is my goal - however dealing with your frustrations has been an entertaining side-bar. Thanks again. Maybe another source agreeing that the barbs fired by politicians had a negative effect on Vegas. The Ritz-Carlton Hotel Co will close its five-diamond property in Las Vegas this May, after the hotel struggled with a slide in demand and revenue. "The whole demonization of luxury meetings and companies' pulling back on having their high-end meetings in luxury hotels -- this has had a tremendous impact on Las Vegas," Deuschl said. "I can't think of another destination that has had to defend itself more against comments from politicians." I feel sorry for you thompson. The anger and frustration in your mind must be a terrible burden. quote: Save that shit for the one who actually is your bitch. I have no "bitch" but you thompson - post on and I'll be happy to continue to treat you as mine as long as you do.

thompsonx -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/10/2010 6:32:11 AM)
quote: I have no "bitch" but you thompson - post on and I'll be happy to continue to treat you as mine as long as you do. ROFLMAO The one with the spanked ass claims the spankor is his bitch. Oh the irony

Mercnbeth -> RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? (2/10/2010 6:39:33 AM)
quote: The one with the spanked ass claims the spankor is his bitch. Oh the irony Glad you looked up the word 'irony' and are able to use it in a sentence. Not that it, like the rest of your idiocy in this thread was relevant. But it's good to see you progress and grow. I'm glad to have contributed to your vocabulary skills. Next lesson - Importance and/or status isn't achieved by bolding your posts; unless, as in your case, self importance is the only importance you have in your life. Back on topic: (11) I think it is a bad thing for anyone who is President of the country to use a specific city as a bad example of where to spend money. color=#9900CC]"I can't think of another destination that has had to defend itself more against comments from politicians."[/color] I regret your inability to comprehend that very simple statement. You also are incorrect on the assumption that the President agrees with me. The President feels it necessary to decide for people what they should be doing with their money, disposable or otherwise. I disagree with that premise. It is not an example of self determination and consequences for personal decisions.

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