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Membership in the Harvard Law Review is limited to second- and third-year law students who are selected on the basis of their performance on an annual writing competition. Harvard Law School students who are interested in joining the Review must write the competition at the end of their 1L year, even if they plan to take time off during law school or are pursuing a joint degree and plan to spend a year at another Harvard graduate school. Students who spend their 1L year at other law schools and are applying to transfer to Harvard Law School must write the competition in the spring before their 2L year and must be admitted to Harvard Law School to become a member of the Review.

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So he writes well, BFD, Stephen King writes well too, but I wouldn't want him as President.

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You did get the part that it was a convention that was canceled didn't you?

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Now how does that translate to "Don't book your convention in Vegas"?

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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You did get the part that it was a convention that was canceled didn't you?

Your point being that companies go on conventions but not people? Or is it your position that every person attending the convention already has their children's college fund covered?

Your desire to make the presidents admonition to fiscal responsibility into something other than that shows an apaliing lack of understanding of the English language, but you have admitted that english is not your primary language...Your constant bragging about how you didn't learn anything in college was obviously candid.

When you go to Vegas for your next trip on your way to your average "30-40" days per year; check and see if there are companies "gambling and doing drugs" (your prior reference to those who go to Vegas) or people?

Those would be people traveling on the company dime. The presidents admonition to be fiscally responsible would certainly applyto any who were planning on spending the rent money on gambling or drugs (remember I disabused you of your ignorance on this mat ter) but you do not want to see that all you want to do is find something to carp about.

In case you are link reading impaired - Wells Fargo's decision to take a powder, banking giant Goldman Sachs also bailed from a planned event at Mandalay Bay. The company, which received $10 billion in taxpayer money, moved the event to San Francisco, a city with pricier hotel rooms and higher average airfares.An official with Mandalay Bay parent company MGM Mirage told The Associated Press the move included a $600,000 cancellation fee.Whether you, or any of the Obama apologists don't want to assign any responsibility to the President, the FACT is the company took action based on his words. Even if, as the article alludes to it being a "publicity stunt" the lost revenue and ancillary benefit to the city of Las Vegas is not a matter of debate.

BTW - A question of comprehension comes into play again - the conventions in VEGAS were canceled, nowhere is it mentioned they were not going to happen someplace else. Here's a troubling word for you 'FACT'. Fact is one company, using tax payer funded bail out money, is specifically noted as spending more tax payer money ($600,000) to cancel their Vegas convention while adding to the tax payer funded cost by relocating their convention to SF.

If you have a point please make it.

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Now how does that translate to "Don't book your convention in Vegas"?

Gee, I don't know - maybe I'm unique - but the results were that they did NOT book their convention in Vegas, or in this case as a direct consequence the companies noted CHANGED their booking.

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That was all last year, perhaps it had more to do with angry taxpayers and the bailout money. You seemed to skip that part of the article. Your link is dated Feb.2009 and it is from a very biased publication, which of course would blame anyone but the people in Vegas, The Casino Times

Wells Fargo bank, recipient of $25 billion in taxpayer bailout bucks, backed out of a 12-day event at Wynn Las Vegas in the face of a backlash from angry taxpayers and indignant politicians.

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They changed their booking. They went someplace else and spent the taxpayers money. Again if you have a point make it. If your point is that you and others wish to believe something that is not true that is your business.

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It is a tough sell when you keep trying to say it is a good idea to spend the rent and grocery money on drugs and gambling. It kinda blows the shit out of your constant carp about personal responsibility.

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Nope - that was the point. The companies made the decision after hearing the convention recommendation of the President. Happy you finally got it! BTW - since you now agree that happened; what part is "not true"?

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Nope - that's NOT the point. You may go 30-45 days to Vegas to spend your rent and grocery money on "drugs and gambling" but shouldn't assume that everyone does. You really also shouldn't represent that is what President Obama said. However - you're free to represent your motives and your interpretation of the President's words.

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SO you think, in Feb 2009, less than a month as President, Obama makes a statement about using taxpayer money and that one company changed their booking because of it.

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Which is what this is with Vegas, PR, lets blame anyone other then the fact we got screwed in the housing market, projects got over extended and the credit market came to halt because Wall street screwed up, NO lets blame the whole thing on 1 line the President said, it gives the GOP a talking points

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I quote my own comment on the subject; "Even if, as the article alludes to it being a "publicity stunt" the lost revenue and ancillary benefit to the city of Las Vegas is not a matter of debate."

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Which should bring us to common ground and the original intent of this thread.

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I think it's safe to assume that we also agree that the President is NOT a stupid man. Why then, almost to the day one year ago when a similar comment generated a litany of criticism, would he do the same thing?

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Stipulating that I am not nearly as intelligent as the President.

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I would never think I was making an effective and constructive point regarding the personal, regional, or national economy by a statement berating travel to a place I also need and want to improve its economic condition. The fact that President Obama has now done it twice generated the original question.

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he said don't spend your rent and grocery money on gambling and drugs

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unless you have some investment in vegas which would give this whole conversation a different texture.

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Perhaps a better question is why you think it is wrong for the president to advocate personal responsibility.

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you have not found many buyers.

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Are you 'Bullish' in the art market?

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My opinion is that any President shouldn't need to denigrate any locality

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I'm not selling anything.

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This last comment..no impact at all. The original comments about Vegas and corporate meetings at other luxury resorts hurt tremendously. Cancellations in response to negative comments from the administratino about an AIG meeting there led directly led to the foreclosure of the St. Regis hotel in Dana Pt. CA for example.

This is clearly your opinion but would you happen to have some sort of validation for this conclusion?

HST

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SO you think, in Feb 2009, less than a month as President, Obama makes a statement about using taxpayer money and that one company changed their booking because of it.

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This last comment..no impact at all. The original comments about Vegas and corporate meetings at other luxury resorts hurt tremendously. Cancellations in response to negative comments from the administratino about an AIG meeting there led directly led to the foreclosure of the St. Regis hotel in Dana Pt. CA for example.

This is clearly your opinion but would you happen to have some sort of validation for this conclusion?

HST

Its not a conclusion, it was reported in local newspapers.

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SO you think, in Feb 2009, less than a month as President, Obama makes a statement about using taxpayer money and that one company changed their booking because of it.

not one, many

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Las Vegas Strip gambling revenues tumbled the most on record last year. Visits to Las Vegas, which hosts more conventions than any other U.S. city, will fall as much as 4 percent this year, said Rossi Ralenkotter, CEO of the Las Vegas Convention & Visitors Authority. The number of seats available on commercial flights remains almost 15 percent less than a year ago

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SO you think, in Feb 2009, less than a month as President, Obama makes a statement about using taxpayer money and that one company changed their booking because of it.

not one, many

This from your cite.


Feb. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Wynn Resorts Ltd. and other Las Vegas casino operators have seen healthy companies cancel conventions since President Barack Obama criticized taxpayer-funded trips, Chief Executive Officer Steve Wynn said today.
The presidet tells those in "bailout" that they cannot use the taxpayers dime to party on. You find that offensive somehow? You want to tie that to the reason that the Vegas economy in tanking.
This from your cite

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Las Vegas Strip gambling revenues tumbled the most on record last year. Visits to Las Vegas, which hosts more conventions than any other U.S. city, will fall as much as 4 percent this year, said Rossi Ralenkotter, CEO of the Las Vegas Convention & Visitors Authority. The number of seats available on commercial flights remains almost 15 percent less than a year ago

Did you read that... 4% ...those poor mother fuckers will only make 96 gazillion dollars this year instead of 100 gazillion. Four percent fewer conventions and 15% fewer visitors...the fucking world is comming to an end. This was for the previous year. The world wide economy is in the toilet and you pick one phrase by the president as the specific cause of the meltdown. I have heard more moronic concepts just not today.

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Call it bickering if you like. If you want to play with the big kids, you'll need more than scolding--people disagree.