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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/10/2010 7:50:52 AM

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if a Dominant can feel that theyre sub or slave belongs to them, can a slave or sub feel that her Dominant belongs to her.

For a fleeting moment yes, but then I woke up and realized he's a human being and I can't own a human being.

I find it odd when the people who live outside the box have such trouble thinking outside of it. She wasn't speaking in literal terms.

No shit sherlock

Yep no shit, genius. It sure looked like you hadn't figured that out from your reply

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/10/2010 8:36:46 AM

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why cant we feel that same ownership in a more egalitarian, vanillaish manner.

if this slave wanted to feel ownership in an egalitarian, vanilla-ish manner, she wouldn't have gone fishing in an alternative relationship dynamic pond.

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/10/2010 9:11:42 AM

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why cant we feel that same ownership in a more egalitarian, vanillaish manner.

if this slave wanted to feel ownership in an egalitarian, vanilla-ish manner, she wouldn't have gone fishing in an alternative relationship dynamic pond.

That's like going to a steakhouse and expecting tofu.

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/10/2010 10:38:12 AM

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why cant we feel that same ownership in a more egalitarian, vanillaish manner.

if this slave wanted to feel ownership in an egalitarian, vanilla-ish manner, she wouldn't have gone fishing in an alternative relationship dynamic pond.

I can't imagine why I'd be looking for it in an egalitarian, vanilla-ish manner. The only reason I fell into M's lap is because he DIDN'T want an egalitarian relationship and it was clear that I didn't either.

I'm not sure how I could have experienced this type of relationship if it had any kind of egalitarian aspect to it.

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/11/2010 2:47:34 AM

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FR after read through

in my opinion:

Vannilla or DS with or without kink,
two (or more) people together who are more than just friends DO have a certain ownership of eachother
ownership makes for expectations and responsibilities, and we all have them

Especially when you are legally married and next of kin
you will be the one who will have to go and identify the body and arrange the funeral unless you sign your duty away to the state.

When unfortunately the Master becomes ill and weak and needs help and is in no state to diss out orders and rule the castle and the sub/ slave/ wife/ hubby will have to step in and sort everything out maybe then feel their responsibilities... ownership?

How we live together, what 'game' we play is a different matter

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/11/2010 5:14:26 AM

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There is no ownership, on either side of the kneel. Period. End of story.

So now that we've eliminated fantasy, let's talk about reality.

D/s relationships are just like vanilla relationships. There is a bond that is formed, and possessiveness is often a natural outgrowth of that bond . There may be mutual agreement to allow others to come between that bond (e.g. poly households, or cuckolding situations), but for the most part, that possessiveness tends to flow both ways. Why else do you think so many subs/slaves want to marry their Dom/Domme?

My experience disagrees with this statement.

I've had many long-term relationships. Two two longest: 12 years vanilla and 16 years master-slave. I experienced posessiveness in both relationships, as did the other partners. But I never experienced ownership in the vanilla relationship, nor did my vanilla partner. My master experienced owning me in the bdsm relationship, and I experienced being owned in it, too. I also felt posessiveness toward him, but it never strayed into ownership. Ownership and posessiveness are two very different experiences--in my experience.

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/11/2010 5:25:07 AM

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why cant we feel that same ownership in a more egalitarian, vanillaish manner.

if this slave wanted to feel ownership in an egalitarian, vanilla-ish manner, she wouldn't have gone fishing in an alternative relationship dynamic pond.

Word.

It's the actions within a relationship that inform your mind and emotions that you are owned, and the great majority of these actions are ones that would never occur to a vanilla partner, no matter how possessive they are, to do. All a possessive vanilla person cares about is that your gentials and emotions don't go wandering too close to anybody else's. While some masters may care if you fuck others, other masters don't care at all, but they will lay down rigid and detailed orders to follow about avoiding STDs and pregnancy. This is something that would never occur to your standard possessive vanilla partner to do largely because the vanilla partner does not regard you as his property to maintain, but rather as another equal-in-all-important-ways, person who must be threatened, manipulated, guilt-tripped, tricked, charmed, seduced, reasoned with, or otherwise convinced into not wanting to stray.

Posssessiveness is /= to ownership.

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/11/2010 5:29:30 AM

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You bet I own his ass. He is mine mine mine. I don't share.
And then I do what he says...

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/11/2010 6:42:16 AM

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Yes, you can own a dominant . . . they are on sale at Dom Depot in the in the Home Improvent isle.

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/11/2010 6:47:01 AM

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