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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 12:23:09 AM

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There is no ownership, on either side of the kneel. Period. End of story.

So now that we've eliminated fantasy, let's talk about reality.

I'm definitely on the side of reality..but who's reality? Surely you don't think you speak for all of us do you? That would be a fantasy alright..One that would be easily disproved.

Ownership of another person is about the mind not about whether or not it's legitimate legality. When a female feels she has no choice in her mind but to stay with an individual..Meaning she feels powerless to leave or the very idea isn't in her head..no matter what you do..You own that person from the inside and out.

My relationships have vanilla similarities for sure but to what degree?

The idea is romantic but it can be more than just a fantasy.. based solely on how much weight the two or more people involved place emphasis on the concept..If you put your heart into something it can become more that just fantasy..It can and will become reality.

If it's not a reality for you and you can't conceive how it could be for others..No problem..It doesn't matter in the scheme of things relating to what others think.

if you control a person you in effect own that person

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 3:58:53 AM

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Why not have a quick reality check and change this to, 'Can you own a person?' It's all in our heads.

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 6:00:39 AM

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I can be rented. I can even be leased. I would not recommend owning me.

The depreciation will kill you.

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 6:06:12 AM

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You can debate owning humans all you want. However, you CAN own an anteater!

See ya Jefff . . . enjoy your new home!

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 6:07:00 AM

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HAHAHAHAHAHA!....... bastard!

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 6:20:09 AM

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 6:20:27 AM

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If someone can own anyone then I don't think oriantation affects that feeling

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 6:28:09 AM

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HAHAHAHAHAHA!....... bastard!

Hey, you are well worth the big money. You end the “true Dom” debate because you are a real Domi-ant … eater. You Dom those ants harder and better than any other Domi-ant. The girls will be proud to show off their true Dom. Whether in a dungeon or at a party, they’ll look great with their new Domi-ant.

So come folks, there has never been a better time to get yourself a real Domi-ant … eater! Whether it's his talents in the dungeon, bedroom, the way he trims his fur or his snappy way of dressing, charming smile and wonderful personality, you will be amazed at the abilities of your Domi-ant … eater! You and your friends will be much better off with a Jefff, get one today!

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 6:34:09 AM

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HAHAHAHAHAHA!....... bastard!

Hey, you are well worth the big money. You end the “true Dom” debate because you are a real Domi-ant … eater. You Dom those ants harder and better than any other Domi-ant. The girls will be proud to show off their true Dom. Whether in a dungeon or at a party, they’ll look great with their new Domi-ant.

So come folks, there has never been a better time to get yourself a real Domi-ant … eater! Whether it's his talents in the dungeon, bedroom, the way he trims his fur or his snappy way of dressing, charming smile and wonderful personality, you will be amazed at the abilities of your Domi-ant … eater! You and your friends will be much better off with a Jefff, get one today!

Throw in free shipping and handling costs....and I'll take one

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 6:35:09 AM

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CM - the new Ebay?

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 6:57:12 AM

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The reserve has not been met............

And I don't have very much reserve....:)

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 7:03:40 AM

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Well, M's life ISN'T mine. He arranges his life the way he wants and I arrange mine the way *I* want, right up until he thinks this or that needs to happen differently and then I have to change it.

Really, aren't you talking about feelings of propriety? I certainly have those. I don't *feel*, nor do I, own anyone ......but then , no-one's asked me to do that.

To me it's simply how we've arranged life. I asked to be *owned* and after some deliberation, he said * Yes*. It basically means what it says on the tin.

I might *feel* proprietal but as far as I'm concerned that's pretty natural. I don't consider that I *own* him , just because I have feelings of possessiveness. He's the most stupendous person that's walked the planet as far as I'm concerned and I'm very selfish.

I don't *feel* that I belong to him .....I DO belong to him. We arranged life that way.....it was what I wanted and it was what he accepted. *Feelings* didn't come into it. He's the person that *owns* me , therefore he's MY owner and I am HIS.

I can *feel* all sorts of things but the arrangement is that HE *owns* ME. And yes, he DOES *feel* that he does........because everything in our relationship points to that fact.

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 7:09:43 AM

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The reserve has not been met............

And I don't have very much reserve....:)

Jeff

Fine, I'll pay the S&H and just do a direct wrrite-off.

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 7:50:59 AM

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You are willing to give up your goose?

maybe, but it better be a damn good slave

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 7:51:22 AM

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Neither of us owns the other. But both of us have the right to say "this isn't working for me, we need to change it". If the change requested is something the other cannot or will not do, then we would have to re-evaluate the relationship.

But we belong together, because we are both better together than we were single.

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 8:11:00 AM

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if a Dominant can feel that theyre sub or slave belongs to them, can a slave or sub feel that her Dominant belongs to her.

personally i would never say that my Dominant belongs to me. i have never actually been someone who believes a man belongs to me. hell, i dont even feel that i own my animals, though i am responsible for them.

is it a sub thing to feel they 'belong' to someone and is it a Dominant thing to 'own' someone and never to trespass across those delineations. if so why not. would it interfere with the psychology of owned and owner, would it change the dynamic.

i would never want to 'own' my Dominant in the sense of 'he's mine and noone else can have him' and yet, in a way, if youre not poly, that is, kinda how it is. i would never say 'my Dominant belongs to me, his life is mine' and yet in an odd way, entering into a relationship with someone you are kinda hoping that he'll stick around and be truely youres forever.

it was just one of my random thoughts today.

right now my feeling is no. i cant and do not want to own any living thing, i see each living thing as a free spirit, designed to follow their own path, best they can.

what does ownership even feel like

You can do whatever your dominant allows.

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 8:35:04 AM

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There are many meanings associated to words, and there's this nasty little thing that's called Context. So yes, it's possible to own a Dom within certain context. We can own yet not own many things. Do we truely own anything at all? (subject of philosophical debate).

Is a Glass half empty or half full when 50% of it's volume contains water? However, if you were to think about this riddle in terms of Mass that occupies the glass..it's no longer a 50/50 issue. Is it really possible to achieve a 50/50 balance when things are compared/measured at the smallest levels?

My point is such; it all depends upon how you look at things. Such is Ownership. There are in fact some submissives that very much own the hearts of their Dominant partners.

Having read through the answers, this one and several others come closest to what I feel.

There is a submissive on here...actually, there are several people on here (grins)...who will tell you that I tend to look at things from many, many, MANY angles. I am trying to be better about that as not everything deserves that level of examination but on a topic such as this, it can be a good intellectual exercise.

I answered a post a few days ago about emotional involvement. While all 4 submissives in my life have owned a piece of my heart, none of them have owned Me. And of those 4 submissives, only 2 owned my heart completely...made me want to build a life with them. Only 1 of them made me reconsider many of my viewpoints on such things as moving from where I live, being more open to certain things, etc..

Does ownership of my heart take away from my dominance? No...but it DOES make a finer, tighter line to walk...between being the romantic partner involved in the heart/emotional aspect and the dominant who needs to set emotions aside and deal with just the D/s aspect. Tis not easy but interaction with the forementioned submissives has also taught me that it is not always an easy line for them. But in the end, I own them...they do not own me. But in the overall aspect, as whiplash and others noted, it all depends which angle you are looking at in that particular piece of time. Because though they don't own me, their feeling of possessiveness does not ease...nor should it...with that knowledge.

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 8:47:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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There is no ownership, on either side of the kneel. Period. End of story.

So now that we've eliminated fantasy, let's talk about reality.

I'm definitely on the side of reality..but who's reality? Surely you don't think you speak for all of us do you? That would be a fantasy alright..One that would be easily disproved.

agreed

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Ownership of another person is about the mind not about whether or not it's legitimate legality. When a female feels she has no choice in her mind but to stay with an individual..Meaning she feels powerless to leave or the very idea isn't in her head..no matter what you do..You own that person from the inside and out.

aaww but what if the Dominant feels he has not choice but to own her. She is everything he wanted... it is like the planets have aligned and heaven has opened it's door. He is powerless to refuse owning her... for not to own her is denying who he is.

I believe how one defines ownership will have a significant impact on one's perspective.

maybe for some ownership is one way... for others it's two way... then there is the third.. where it's not the individuals owning... but the relationship owning the individuals. I suspect no one wants to leave that perfect relationship. But why is it perfect in the first place. I suspect it is the melting of the individuals that create something very special that keeps them both in such a perfect relationship. In some cases ... they serve that kind of relationship and maybe they are own by it as well.

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RE: can you own a Dominant - 2/6/2010 8:48:35 AM

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Can a sub own a Dominant.

Fuck no.

After complete read through:

NO fucking way.

That is, I totally agree with Mr. Ebony (color of his) Wood.

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