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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/9/2010 9:34:51 PM   
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Where I worked we required every new worker to take and pass a CDL- A test within 6 months before they could become full time employees. Some could not read so we provided them an employee to help them with study time and set up a verbal test with the state agency. There were no problems at all.

I'd like to have seen that at a well-known company (at least in my industry) where I once worked.  People in the production side of the house were allowed to bring interpreters with them to the interview.

bonus points if folks can guess the 2 languages supervisors needed to know...

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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/9/2010 10:47:05 PM   
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I agree with you completely...where did I ever say anything different?

How many millions of immigrants do you think had to learn English and take a civics test... they managed.

I am just saying the idea is not racists.

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I would disagree... those who do not want brown people to vote and think that literacy tests will keep them from it, well yeah, that is racist


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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/9/2010 10:52:01 PM   
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bonus points if folks can guess the 2 languages supervisors needed to know...

Hmong and Tagalog?


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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 4:35:41 AM   
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We have all met some people who are so ignorant and clueless that we cringe at the thought of them voting


And in many cases, cringe at the thought of the ignorance and cluelessness of those for whom they are voting.

Does anyone care that the Supreme Court already struck down such tests?

[Yeah, I guess it was a silly question...]



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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 6:06:25 AM   
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Poor poor julia, try to dry your tears. No one has said a thing about disallowing "brown" people from voting, the problem thats being discussed is how to keep illegal immigrants from voting.

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I agree with you completely...where did I ever say anything different?

How many millions of immigrants do you think had to learn English and take a civics test... they managed.

I am just saying the idea is not racists.

Butch



I would disagree... those who do not want brown people to vote and think that literacy tests will keep them from it, well yeah, that is racist



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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 6:10:20 AM   
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Where I worked we required every new worker to take and pass a CDL- A test within 6 months before they could become full time employees. Some could not read so we provided them an employee to help them with study time and set up a verbal test with the state agency. There were no problems at all.

I'd like to have seen that at a well-known company (at least in my industry) where I once worked.  People in the production side of the house were allowed to bring interpreters with them to the interview.

bonus points if folks can guess the 2 languages supervisors needed to know...


Spanish and Farsi?

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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 7:44:39 AM   
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Poor poor julia, try to dry your tears. No one has said a thing about disallowing "brown" people from voting, the problem thats being discussed is how to keep illegal immigrants from voting.

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I agree with you completely...where did I ever say anything different?

How many millions of immigrants do you think had to learn English and take a civics test... they managed.

I am just saying the idea is not racists.

Butch



I would disagree... those who do not want brown people to vote and think that literacy tests will keep them from it, well yeah, that is racist



And if you had read my links provided in an earlier post perhaps you would have seen that since there is an education gap between minorities and White people that minorities would be the ones that had a disproportionate trouble with such a test... and then there is the unfair application of such tests in which in certain districts they would be unfairly implemented also... just like during Jim Crow...

You know, find a nonpartisan study that shows illegal immigrants voting is a huge problem.. enough to disenfranchise legal voters? The thing is, the more people vote, the less republicans win... so y'all want to make it as hard as possible to vote... kinda revolting


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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 7:53:26 AM   
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bonus points if folks can guess the 2 languages supervisors needed to know...

Hmong and Tagalog?


Most excellent, Kitty.  They were Tagalog and Portuguese.

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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 8:41:54 AM   
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I agree with you completely...where did I ever say anything different?

How many millions of immigrants do you think had to learn English and take a civics test... they managed.

I am just saying the idea is not racists.

Butch



I would disagree... those who do not want brown people to vote and think that literacy tests will keep them from it, well yeah, that is racist



There are illiterate white ...red… and yellow people too dear...now who is being a racist...do you think only brown people can be illiterate…you are typical.

Butch


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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 9:03:43 AM   
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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 9:13:57 AM   
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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 9:15:48 AM   
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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 9:18:01 AM   
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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 9:20:00 AM   
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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 9:25:09 AM   
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I'm guessing that one or....

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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 9:37:49 AM   
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quote:

We have all met some people who are so ignorant and clueless that we cringe at the thought of them voting


And in many cases, cringe at the thought of the ignorance and cluelessness of those for whom they are voting.

Does anyone care that the Supreme Court already struck down such tests?

[Yeah, I guess it was a silly question...]




We all know he was trying to gain political support by saying something popular among the Tea Party faithful. I don't believe the statement he made was racist in itself... I don't know what was in his heart. But to claim he is a racist based on that statement is wrong.

When I was talking of the tests I was talking of the requirements for naturalized citizens... they are required to take a civics test. I thought that was ironic.

Butch


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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 9:51:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Voter litercy tests? The Dems will try to block that, half of their "base" can't read or write.

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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 9:52:56 AM   
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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 9:59:50 AM   
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I agree with you completely...where did I ever say anything different?

How many millions of immigrants do you think had to learn English and take a civics test... they managed.

I am just saying the idea is not racists.

Butch



I would disagree... those who do not want brown people to vote and think that literacy tests will keep them from it, well yeah, that is racist



There are illiterate white ...red… and yellow people too dear...now who is being a racist...do you think only brown people can be illiterate…you are typical.

Butch



I quoted references and stats... you are just attacking with no information to back you...

I work in a field that is used to address questions like these, and in fact just took a class that addressed what I am saying last semester.... and I have to say it is not shocking for people of different ethnic backgrounds to know that money gets spent on predominantly White kids than on kids that live in ethnically diverse and migrant neighborhoods... so please save your accusations of racism...THAT is typical from someone who does not want to address the education disparity that truly exists in this country


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RE: Tea Party speaker calls for voter literacy tests - 2/10/2010 10:01:17 AM   
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Voter litercy tests? The Dems will try to block that, half of their "base" can't read or write.


What you are saying is that if a person is not able to read or write, but pays their taxes, well they have less rights than you.... and that is unAmerican


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