juliaoceania
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Here's the thing that amuses me. At no point in this thread did I mock anyone's beliefs. Yet, a topic about religion cannot be brought up without the "believers" becoming indignant and offended. The article pointed out that a great many people in this country believe to the point of abandoning control of their own destiny. Is this what you advocate? God will solve everything, and hey, if he doesn't no big deal because we have that afterlife to look forward to, where we'll sit on clouds in the sky and sip champagne all day. I call this mocking quote:
Maybe this answers why we can't get anything done in this country. After all, it's not really our responsibility. and this too quote:
No, I think it actually says a lot about those people who base their lives on what they feel and believe instead of what they can confirm and substantiate. You wrote those things, own them, you know, take responsibility quote:
Yet, a topic about religion cannot be brought up without the "believers" becoming indignant and offended. The article pointed out that a great many people in this country believe to the point of abandoning control of their own destiny. Is this what you advocate? God will solve everything, and hey, if he doesn't no big deal because we have that afterlife to look forward to, where we'll sit on clouds in the sky and sip champagne all day. You know what, if you were to say, "hey, I am an Atheist, the concept of God doesn't make much sense to me". I certainly wouldn't comment... but that isn't what you did. You made derogatory comments about people who have faith in things, and that to me is trollish to be honest. You are again mocking people here. Now you want to make this about the content of my beliefs, well the content of my beliefs isn't even important because that isn't what is motivating me to post here. It is the mocking of other people and their beliefs.... I study religion academically. quote:
I hope I'm wrong too. I grew up in a very religious family and it scared me to death when I first begin to contemplate that this is all there is, after having been raised to believe life was some sort of pit stop or proving ground before we finally receive "eternal happiness". But I slowly started to believe that in itself was the reason why. Life is short and fragile, so we need to soothe ourselves by trying to believe there is somehow more. I'm sorry your family seems to have ruined the god concept and you can't be spiritual anymore, but taking it out on people of faith isn't going to make you feel one iota better. You aren't the first to hypothesize that, and you will not be the last. The one thing that Atheists of all stripes lack is the experience of relating with the Sacred. Maybe they can't because of psychological scars, maybe they can't because their brains are different from the norm... who knows... Here is what I know, people since the dawn of time have spiritual experiences..... so these experiences to YOU are meaningless. To those who have them they give their lives meaning. You are shitting on that by mocking people. You are the one out of step, you are the one that is out of the norm, you are the one that isn't "getting it"... but go on telling yourself that you are superior and logical... Like I said, your worldview is founded on White European Enlightenment, of the belief that the scientific method is somehow a religion... replaces the Sacred and can answer all questions... Science can't do that. Science cannot describe the human experience.. sorry to break it to you, but you are just as irrational, illogical, and emotional as everyone else... you just have science to explain your reality... Someone else suggested you look into quantum physics .... it would be a really good idea, because the real isn't as real as you believe it to be. quote:
Well again, I didn't ridicule anyone unless you think someone expressing an opinion you disagree with is somehow ridiculing you. I think hinting around that people who ask god for intervention in their lives and for comfort shouldn't be trusted to vote and they are destroying our country is maybe even worse than simple mocking... it is saying that a whole group of people aren't good citizens and can't be trusted. That is what you did, and you also mocked too. BTW, I am a Taoist. Taoists do not necessarily believe in a God, although there is nothing precluding us from it either. quote:
Though, I must admit, I did sadly expect this kind of reaction. I am saddened when people strike out against that which they do not understand. quote:
But this is not a thread about the existence of God. No.. it is about how irrational dem God Fearin' folk are... gotcha quote:
It is about how a large percentage of those who do believe let it influence all aspects of their life. Just to reiterate: - 71 percent said they believe that when good or bad things happen, these occurrences are simply part of God's plan for them.
- 61 percent indicated they believe God has determined the direction and course of their lives.
- 32 percent agreed with the statement: "There is no sense in planning a lot because ultimately my fate is in God's hands."
Hell. if God's got it all covered I might as well pop a few beers, watch some tv and take a nap. After all, there's nothing I can do about it anyway, it's God's plan. Why do you care?
< Message edited by juliaoceania -- 3/12/2010 6:20:41 AM >
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