domroomiesneeded
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Holy cow, domroomiesneeded, it's a freaking tsunami of factual errors. It's hard to know where to start.
This is gonna be good. 
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Can you cite any numbers at all on "all the bankruptcies in Canada because of the lack of services in healthcare?"
Yes I can
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Tell me, is that more than in the US, where half of personal bankruptcies are due to unpaid, high medical bills?
The total amount is more in the US, but Canada's is higher on a per capita basis. Btw, your claim that half of US personal bankruptices are due to unpaid high medical bills is nonsense.
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Is it close?
Canada's bankruptcy rate due to medical debt is 20% higher.
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"Greedy union thugs striking at the drop of a dime" in health care? Who are they?
WTF? SUN (Sask Union of Nurses) is threatening to strike again. Your profile says you are from Alberta, so cut the crap. Either (1) you just moved to Canada, (2) you are a rabid hardcore ideologue that puts ideology over the care of the people, or (3), you are a liar. Everybody in Canada knows that the public sector unions in healthcare hold up the public for massive raises and obscene benefits. And if they don't get what they want, they go on strike and there is NO healthcare.
Does that sound like a compassionate system?
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There are no waits for urgent or primary care in Canada: If you need immediate care, you get it. Period.
Nonsense.
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There are waits for most specialists’ care, and longer waits for elective surgery. Is that a problem?
LONG waits--and yeah, I have a problem with it. My Grandfather died after 12 months while on a 17 month waiting list.
Also, a sexy Domme I know had to use a cane for 11 months while waiting for knee surgery. Not only was she disabled, but I didnt get to see her strutting around in heels for 11 months 
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Sometimes, but Canada's health care outcomes remain better than the US, and Canadians get the care, without having to worry about money.
Nonsense. Canada's outcomes are worse than the US and it is the height of ignorance to claim that one doesnt have to worry about money. Everything is TAXED in Canada to support this 2nd rate healthcare system. 46% of Saskatchewans's provincial budget alone goes toward the bottomless hole of healthcare.
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I know that Americans spend far more money,
True, but there are a few reasons for this. Americans have more advanced and FAR MORE equipment than the govt rationed Cdn healthcare system.
Indeed, many metropolitan US cities have more Catscans and MRI equipment than entire provinces in Canada. Also, there should be tort reform in the US so doctors don't have to purchase such high insurance and preventative testings so ambulance chasers like John Edwards cannot put doctors out of business by convincing gullible juries. But that is rarely mentioned because lawyers are bigtime donors to the Democrat Party, and the leftwing propagandists (the mainstream media) never mention this fact.
Also, less regulation--so more insurance companies can compete in a state and one isnt forced to puchase insurance plans that cover gender reassignment surgery.
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yet despite this have poorer health outcomes than Canadians.
Nonsense!
*In January 2009 Canada's population was 33,504,700. Estimated new cases of colorectal cancer in Canada 22,000; estimated deaths 9,100. The mortality rate is 0.0272% of Canada's population.
In January 2009 the USA's population was 305,000,000. In the USA, new cases of colorectal cancer 146,970; estimated deaths 49,920. Mortality rate is 0.0164%.
It's not even close.
*The above numbers are from the American Cancer Society and Colon Cancer Canada statistics.
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Canada also has a lower mortality rate. American infant mortality rates are 40 per cent higher
Because the US appears to be the only country that follows the strictest standard set by the World Health Organization:
According to the World Health Organization (WHO) definition, all babies showing any signs of life, such as muscle activity, a gasp for breath or a heartbeat, should be included as a live birth. The U.S. strictly follows this definition.
Does Canada follow this strict standard?
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I know that Natasha Richardson refused an exam, and I know that in Montreal (where Richardson was taken), to quote Dr. Brett Taylor, a study found that "100 per cent of victims arrived by road ambulance; whereas in King County in Washington State, 15 per cent arrived by helicopter. But, Montreal's ambulance crews were on the scene sooner, spent less time there, and had shorter transport times. That's right, a U.S. system with dedicated air transport had transport times averaging 23 minutes, compared to Montreal which averaged 10."
What the heck does that have to do with Ms Richardson?
Let's stay on topic please. Regarding Ms Richardson, I'm going to quote Tarek Razek, Montreal’s top trauma neurosurgeon and director of trauma services for the McGill University Health Centre:
“Our system isn’t set up for traumas and doesn’t match what’s available in other Canadian cities, let alone in the States.”
Looks like the doc is citing the lack of emergency helicopters as a contributing factor in her death.
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I know that you're parroting Fox talking points when you claim that Canadians flock to the US for health care. It's an outright lie, actually. The last study of cross border patients, using US hospital records, found that " the hordes of people fleeing Canadian health care for treatment in the U.S. was actually an infinitesimal 0.046% over five years."
Another baldfaced lie. Everyone knows that the northern US medical centers near the Canadian border are half filled with Canadians. Indeed, there are Canadian medical vacation tours that go to the US. Please put aside your ideology and quit fucking with people lives.
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Where is the compassion? Not at your house, pal.
Right back at you, pal!
< Message edited by domroomiesneeded -- 3/20/2010 7:40:25 PM >
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