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Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 7:36:02 PM   
LadyAngelika


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Raw footage: Health care opponents and Parkinson's patient meet at rally. (Pardon the idiot advert first)
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/multimedia/video/video.html?video=951077

Where is the compassion? Is this what fear and strife has turned a nation into?

In the woman's rights threads, we saw a few selfish individuals who said "not with my tax dollar".

"No more handouts. Go to Canada" Really. If not condoning the behaviour in that video makes me a socialist, then I'll wear the label with pride.

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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 7:42:24 PM   
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Mind you, I am talking about the behavior here, but I wonder if they could see themselves acting this way how would feel about it?

I once had a boy who was actually proud of a different type of public scene he made until it was shown back to him, then he had the decency to be thoroughly embarrassed by it.

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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 7:50:04 PM   
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The ideology can't get much more painfully obvious than that, can it?

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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 7:53:26 PM   
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This video is the reason why.

I have seen this far too often from the "compassionate conservatives".

And these same attitudes can be seen on a daily basis here.

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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 8:01:27 PM   
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Powerful.

The ideology can't get much more painfully obvious than that, can it?



It can't.

Here is something that hits me. I grew up with health care and social systems. To me, they are a natural part of life. I'm not going to say there are no Canadian idiots as there are, but I doubt you would ever see a scene like this in Canada in reponse to the poor and disenfranchised.

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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 8:03:02 PM   
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That guy's lucky he wasn't a Conservative, and those weren't enraged leftists, especially union thugs - or he might not have lived.


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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 8:11:08 PM   
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That guy's lucky he wasn't a Conservative, and those weren't enraged leftists, especially union thugs - or he might not have lived.



Is that one of those stories you tell yourself so that you can sleep at night?

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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 8:16:19 PM   
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Is this what fear and strife has turned a nation into?


Well... in a word, yes. Fear and hatred. Hatred of anything different, and fear that someone somewhere who sees the world differently will want something of theirs. This is America today, and this video is a sickeningly succinct example of how the health care debate of this past year has so completely changed my view of America and Americans. It's like when you have a family member who's always been a little bit off and hard to get along with, and you never really cared all that much for him to begin with - and then one day at a family reunion  he gets blind drunk and you finally see him for the complete asshole he's really been all along.

On one level, you kind of knew it, because it was all there to see... but you didn't really see it all, because you just didn't want to see it all. But now you have no choice, because the drunken bastard is pawing your 12-year old sister right in front of your eyes. That's what you're seeing right now in America - the ugliest side of an already-ugly people, in their fullthroated, unashamed, xenophobic rage. And no matter how this turns out over the next 2 days, a lot of us will never be able to see the country the same way again. One way or another, people are finding out a lot about the country they're living in.


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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 8:18:16 PM   
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Here is something that hits me. I grew up with health care and social systems. To me, they are a natural part of life. I'm not going to say there are no Canadian idiots as there are, but I doubt you would ever see a scene like this in Canada in reponse to the poor and disenfranchised.

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Geez, i dunno.  Come to Alberta and I'll show you a few. But...to make up for it...I'll buy dinner. *g*

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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 8:20:43 PM   
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You really believe that all Leftist protesters are perfectly kind and moderate and loving and compassionate towards those with whom they disagree?  And all Conservatives are horrid brutes?

Thanks for the laugh. Thats funny. 


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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 8:22:01 PM   
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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 8:22:11 PM   
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Looked like a rally of open minded white men.....

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The Angry White Man is a sight to behold. JFK had to call in the NATIONAL GUARD to protect James Meredith.

He just wanted to go to college --- in Mississippi.

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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 8:24:02 PM   
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You really believe that all Leftist protesters are perfectly kind and moderate and loving and compassionate towards those with whom they disagree?  And all Conservatives are horrid brutes?

Thanks for the laugh. Thats funny. 



Give us an example.

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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 8:24:54 PM   
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You are so full of yourself. What you're seeing are Conservatives rising up to the level of confrontation they've faced for years now, while the left was insane over their lack of power. And I see that same far left insanity ramping up because they can clearly see their power slipping away due to the laughable incompetence of their "leaders" in Washington.


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Well... in a word, yes. Fear and hatred. Hatred of anything different, and fear that someone somewhere who sees the world differently will want something of theirs. This is America today, and this video is a sickeningly succinct example of how the health care debate of this past year has so completely changed my view of America and Americans. It's like when you have a family member who's always been a little bit off and hard to get along with, and you never really cared all that much for him to begin with - and then one day at a family reunion  he gets blind drunk and you finally see him for the complete asshole he's really been all along.

On one level, you kind of knew it, because it was all there to see... but you didn't really see it all, because you just didn't want to see it all. But now you have no choice, because the drunken bastard is pawing your 12-year old sister right in front of your eyes. That's what you're seeing right now in America - the ugliest side of an already-ugly people, in their fullthroated, unashamed, xenophobic rage. And no matter how this turns out over the next 2 days, a lot of us will never be able to see the country the same way again. One way or another, people are finding out a lot about the country they're living in.



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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 8:27:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sanity, let me ask you this, political ideologies aside, can you look at that video and see the lack of humanity in it?

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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 8:27:38 PM   
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You are so full of yourself. What you're seeing are Conservatives rising up to the level of confrontation they've faced for years now, while the left was insane over their lack of power. And I see that same far left insanity ramping up because they can clearly see their power slipping away due to the laughable incompetence of their "leaders" in Washington.



Give us an example.

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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 8:30:48 PM   
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Parkinson's is a degenerative condition of the central nervous system. It's called a "movement disorder" because its most immediately noticable symptom is tremors. Parkinson's patients often have an unsteady gait, difficulty swallowing, and stiff and aching muscles. That guy in the video is holding his sign perfectly steady. His head is stable. His posture is stable. His balance is stable. I would never have recognized him as a Parkinson's patient.

But that said, even if he was a shill there remains the fact that the attitude of the people paying attention to him is nothing to be praised.

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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 8:38:18 PM   
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But that said, even if he was a shill there remains the fact that the attitude of the people paying attention to him is nothing to be praised.

K.


Well I've had someone close go through it and the signs sometimes take a while to kick in, but when they do, I agree with you, they are unmistakable.

If someone was questioning him being ill, that would be one thing, but no one questioned he was ill. They just didn't believe he had the right to receive government assistance for his care.

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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 8:38:24 PM   
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When I watched that video what I noted was a lack of violence as well as a lack of context. What came before and what came after the editors cuts? Some people were angry, but you couldn't tell why exactly. And I also noticed that these were but a very few people, people who were admittedly behaving badly but, almost as bad is how they are being portrayed as representative of everyone in the United States who is against Obamacare.

In other words, its pure bull shit. Its political propaganda at its worst.

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Sanity, let me ask you this, political ideologies aside, can you look at that video and see the lack of humanity in it?

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RE: Where is the compassion? - 3/19/2010 8:40:36 PM   
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When I watched that video what I noted was a lack of violence


Verbal violence is violence. I realise this is a snippet but I'm not convinced it is an isolated case.

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