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Abortion


I'm against ALL abortions
  2% (4)
I'm for allowing abortion in ANY circumstance
  26% (38)
I'm against it, unless the LIFE of the mother is at risk
  6% (10)
I'm for it being legal, but I hate it
  23% (34)
I'm against it, unless the general health of the mom is at risk
  4% (6)
Keep it legal, only if rape, incest or the mom's life is involved
  6% (10)
I don't care one way or the other
  3% (5)
I believe there is life at conception
  13% (19)
I believe life begins between 3 and 9 months
  6% (10)
I believe life only begins after birth
  6% (10)


Total Votes : 146
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Abortion - 3/21/2010 2:36:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Multiple choices are allowed.

I wish I could have squeezed about 3 more options in, in regards to choices #8,9, and 10, allowing for a pro-choice or pro-life angle on each of them.


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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 2:44:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am pro choice.  I had the procedures done after I lost the babies in order not to have the uterine lining scraped and to avoid infections.  

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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 2:47:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I believe firmly in a woman's right to decide her own reproductive issues. Abortion should be available PERIOD!

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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 2:49:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I echo Arpig's sentiments. It is solely a woman's right to decide regarding her re productivity.

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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 2:57:50 PM   
Real0ne


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takes 2 ta make a kid and thats a contract.


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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 2:59:09 PM   
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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 3:02:16 PM   
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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 3:03:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

bullshit!

takes 2 ta make a kid and thats a contract.



Sorry you feel that way RealOne but the bare bones fact is all we men do is supply the sperm. It is the female of the species that has to carry the fertilized egg to term and then give birth. So until such time that men are biologically possible to bear offspring, we have no bloody right to tell a woman she can and can't do with her own body.

An don the other side of the coin. I have sole rights over my ability to produce sperm. Which I gladly exercised that right 20 years ago when I voluntarily had myself sterilized.


< Message edited by Wolf2Bear -- 3/21/2010 3:08:09 PM >

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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 3:03:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		I believe that women should have the right to murder their baby (I bet thats a shock to some here), but let's call a spade a spade, shall we? Abortion is murdering a child, regardless of how you want to justify it.

I also believe that the father should have the right to abort the mother, if she alone decides to murder his child because she has the "right".

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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 3:04:03 PM   
Real0ne


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

Thanks to evolved men like Arpig and Wolf2Bear for their support. America could use more men like you but I'm happy to keep you both right here in Canada.

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yeh disavow all responsibilities for a contract they entered into with the woman.  I agree!

When a woman can make a kid all by herself then the male has no legitimate interest in the product of the 2 bodies.

Until then to bad thats life and thats law.

Now if you want to change that to the agreement of all parties then I stand down.




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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 3:04:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

Thanks to evolved men like Arpig and Wolf2Bear for their support. America could use more men like you but I'm happy to keep you both right here in Canada.

- LA


personal note: once the visa applications for Canada and NZ are in progress...and in the unlikely event you can choose at the end as they might be approved at a similar time...it might be worth now to consider Canada more then NZ...after all...Arpigs and Bears brains are there

I am pro choice and only needed that one box to tick

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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 3:04:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm personally against abortion.  Then again, really, not many people are truly "PRO Abortion".  However, that being said, I'm 100% pro-choice.  I can guaran-goddamn-TEE that if I ever, somehow, got pregnant myself, my personal stance would most likely change rapidly too. ;)

Until then though, that's your body, it's not mine.  I don't want anyone telling me what I can and can't do with my body, and I've got far more important shit to worry about than what you (the general 'you', no singular 'you' specifically) do with yours.

And no.  You can have Arpig, but I get Bear...  hm... wait... I plan on being up there in 2 years anyway, so, yeah, go ahead and hold onto him.  I don't want him getting broken in transit.  I know how UPS and FedEx treat their packages.


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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 3:06:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is a one-night stand a contract?  Did both parties have attorneys ready for the sexual contract?  Does an occasional fling be a contract?

Sorry, but when sex becomes a legal matter, it no longer becomes pleasurable. Too many what if this and what if that.



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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 3:08:45 PM   
Real0ne


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaharThorne

Is a one-night stand a contract?  Did both parties have attorneys ready for the sexual contract?  Does an occasional fling be a contract?

Sorry, but when sex becomes a legal matter, it no longer becomes pleasurable. Too many what if this and what if that.




YUP!

the only thing that does not qualify for contract is force duress and coercion.

well the kid is after the fun so it wont spoil the act, however the outcome certainly is or can be a legal matter.


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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 3:09:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

I believe that women should have the right to murder their baby (I bet thats a shock to some here), but let's call a spade a spade, shall we? Abortion is murdering a child, regardless of how you want to justify it.

I also believe that the father should have the right to abort the mother, if she alone decides to murder his child because she has the "right".



and what right do we then get in return for the so called proud dads who in reality couldn't care less about their kids and their partner or ex??? What can we do with them then?

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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 3:11:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BKSir

I can guaran-goddamn-TEE that if I ever, somehow, got pregnant myself


gosh, I would love to see that


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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 3:12:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Level

I concur that both Arpig and Bear are good men, even if I disagree with them

I appreciate everyone's input.


Thank you Level.


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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 3:14:49 PM   
Real0ne


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Status: offline 		that wasnt really directed at you personally man.

just making a point here :)


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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 3:14:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		~FR~ OK Real, I can see how one might consider sex a "contract", but in legalese terms the man is really a silent partner. If there is any sort of stable relationship between the parties then I feel the man has a right to be consulted, but in the end he has no say...its her body, its her decision. And if the man wishes to end the relationship over it, that is his right, no man is required to be supportive of a decision he is opposed to, but he has no right to interfere.

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RE: Abortion - 3/21/2010 3:15:02 PM   
LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: Level

I concur that both Arpig and Bear are good men, even if I disagree with them

I appreciate everyone's input.


And even if I disagree with you on this Level, I still like you. :-)

- LA

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