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windchymes -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 5:36:41 AM)
Well, I've found that the people who are that proud of their own thinness usually don't have much else in their lives to be proud about, so I kinda feel sorry for them.

NathaninTexas -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 5:54:07 AM)
I am curious about this question as well. I have always been very short and very thin.. right now im 5'5 and 105 Lbs... I eat as much as I can and cannot gain weight.. I work out and nothing helps. Yet when I tell subs that I cannot be with them because they weigh too much they take it as hateful... Its not hateful its a physiological fact that they could crush me when on top of me in bed... That if they rolled over onto me id be a dead man. I want someone that is like me... short and skinny... I do not think that makes me a bigot. When people make jokes about short people or skinny people I do not get offended.. like the previous post... I realize they are naive or ignorant or both and move on. An FYI for you all that think being proud to be skinny is pathetic and probably our only accomplishment. I AM PROUD to be skinny. I am educated (currently working on a PhD), I have traveled across the world, and I have impacted people's lives in a close personal way. I am still proud to be somewhat physically fit. You look at countries that have a low amount of obesity and you see exactly what the problem is compared to countries that have a high amount... And the difference is access to food. When I was in Venezuela and Columbia in the jungles I saw very few obese people.. They worked their asses off and ate very little if anything everyday. And surprise none of them were overweight. When I was in Sudan and Ethiopia.. I saw the same thing.. In fact I can honestly tell you the only person I met in those 2 countries that was overweight was the AMERICAN at the U.S. Embassy in Ethiopia when we were getting out of there... Ladies and Gentlemen lets be honest here... A LOT of things in our lifestyle have to do with Respect and Discipline... and by Discipline I do not mean spanking your sub/slave because he/she was bad... I mean discipline in life... Something that has been severely lacking in Western Civilization since the late 60s... Respect yourself and you will better yourself.. Practice Discipline and you wont have to work that hard to do it. If wanting a woman that meets my physical and intellectual needs makes me a bigot so be it.

windchymes -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 6:10:04 AM)
Okay, let me rephrase, nathan. My comment wasn't directed at you personally :) People proud be skinny who feel the need to be smug about it and put others down who don't share their "gift" ........fill in the rest.

NathaninTexas -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 6:12:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: windchymes Okay, let me rephrase, nathan. My comment wasn't directed at you personally :) People proud be skinny who feel the need to be smug about it and put others down who don't share their "gift" ........fill in the rest. Thankyou :-)

kiwisub12 -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 8:08:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NathaninTexas I am curious about this question as well. I have always been very short and very thin.. right now im 5'5 and 105 Lbs... I eat as much as I can and cannot gain weight.. I work out and nothing helps. Yet when I tell subs that I cannot be with them because they weigh too much they take it as hateful... Its not hateful its a physiological fact that they could crush me when on top of me in bed... That if they rolled over onto me id be a dead man. I disagree - this is a judgemental hateful comment. Basically what you are saying is that it is the heavier subs fault that you "can't" have sex with them. If you had told them that the reason you didn't want to have sex with them was because you were too skinny, underweight or that you didn't feel safe, then I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't have felt attacked (subtly or otherwise). There is a world of difference in "You are too heavy, if you roll over you will kill me" and "I'm no enough of a man for you - I would be afraid that I might get hurt". Of course, one is a put-down, and the other is a statement of your feelings, so perhaps you really use the one that you want . Who knows?

NathaninTexas -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 8:38:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kiwisub12 I disagree - this is a judgemental hateful comment. Basically what you are saying is that it is the heavier subs fault that you "can't" have sex with them. "I'm no enough of a man for you Oh so its a blame game now.. I never blamed them I have often explained why I don't think that is the issue here. I think the issue is some people are uncomfortable with their weight.. Im just enough man for anyone.. Just because I can be crushed by twice my weight doesnt make me "not enough of a man" and I find a comment like that highly insulting.

windchymes -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 8:41:10 AM)
You're more resilient than you think you are, nathan. Women have been letting men who outweigh them by 100 or 200 lbs. or more roll all over them since the beginning of time, and we all lived to tell.

LaTigresse -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 8:44:19 AM)
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, where is that little video of the huge woman bouncing up and down on the guy?????

NathaninTexas -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 8:44:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: windchymes You're more resilient than you think you are, nathan. Women have been letting men who outweigh them by 100 or 200 lbs. or more roll all over them since the beginning of time, and we all lived to tell. And until 50 years ago they were probably forced by societal norms to put up with that shit... A woman today can kick his ass to the curb for shit like that. I don't know about you but I dont like to be suffocated when I am having sex.. Some people do and im fine with that if its their kink. Its not mine.. I like breathing. I find your confidence in my resilience refreshing :-)

RedMagic1 -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 8:51:00 AM)
Sigh. Nathan, skinny chicks tend to go for guys who are taller. Since that's not changing anytime soon, you could compensate for it by being not-defensive. Women, especially sub women, go for men who are confident and solid in who they are. You seem to be getting easily pissed. I take it kiwisub isn't the first gal to mention you might not be man enough? Believe me, it happens. I've probably been rejected by more women than you have -- but I've probably hit on more women than you have, too![;)] Having women say no to you sometimes is just part of the territory. No reason to put the responsibility on anyone but yourself.

NathaninTexas -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 9:27:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RedMagic1 Sigh. Nathan, skinny chicks tend to go for guys who are taller. Since that's not changing anytime soon, you could compensate for it by being not-defensive. Women, especially sub women, go for men who are confident and solid in who they are. You seem to be getting easily pissed. I take it kiwisub isn't the first gal to mention you might not be man enough? Believe me, it happens. I've probably been rejected by more women than you have -- but I've probably hit on more women than you have, too![;)] Having women say no to you sometimes is just part of the territory. No reason to put the responsibility on anyone but yourself. I am proud of who I am.. If what I said came off as not confident it was purely unintentional. And I do not know who has hit on more women me or you.. My definition of hitting on a woman is vastly different than the majority of the public. My faults are what they are.. I am not angry... I was never angry when I wrote any of my posts. This is all off topic .. Although I love being the center of attention be it negative or positive I think the OP topic is being shamefully ignored here.

subtee -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 9:30:20 AM)
Nathan: If an s-type isn't to a D-type's physical preference because of weight, couldn't the D-type imagine molding or training the s-type, in a dominant way, to lose weight? I mean, it seems to me there are many D-types who take it upon themselves (so to speak) to improve their s-types, no? Therefore, D-types need not exclude persons because of their size.

NathaninTexas -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 9:33:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtee Nathan: If an s-type isn't to a D-type's physical preference because of weight, couldn't the D-type imagine molding or training the s-type, in a dominant way, to lose weight? I mean, it seems to me there are many D-types who take it upon themselves (so to speak) to improve their s-types, no? Therefore, D-types need not exclude persons because of their size. I absolutely agree. I am not saying it cannot be done. I saw you post earlier in some other threads about this exact thing. But we have to look at the degree of dedication a s-type has to the lifestyle.. That has a big impact on whether they would be willing to go through that kind of training for a D-type. Do you agree?

VaguelyCurious -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 9:54:08 AM)
-FR- Yo, OP! You know you said people get uppity about weight-based threads? Well lookit! They also get uppity about meta-weight-based thread threads! They can get so uppity about the meta-weight-based threads thread that they morph it into a weight-based thread itself. Some people feel compelled to criticise fat people. Some people feel compelled to tell people who criticise fat people to go ram themselves with a ten-foot barge pole until it comes out of their throats, thus rendering them incapable of further criticism of fat people. A ten-foot barge pole is, after all, somewhat difficult to speak through. This thread has proved that the original thrust of the original post (pun vaguely intended, but let me assure you that I feel ashamed) has no bearing on those two facts-as long as the OP contains the word fat, the future of the thread is assured.

subtee -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 10:13:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NathaninTexas I absolutely agree. I am not saying it cannot be done. I saw you post earlier in some other threads about this exact thing. But we have to look at the degree of dedication a s-type has to the lifestyle.. That has a big impact on whether they would be willing to go through that kind of training for a D-type. Do you agree? Yes, I agree. But I would add we have to look at the degree of dedication a D-type has to the lifestyle and that impact on whether they would be willing to invest in that type of training. How is that different than other expectations or improvements a D-type might want?

NathaninTexas -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 11:20:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtee quote: ORIGINAL: NathaninTexas I absolutely agree. I am not saying it cannot be done. I saw you post earlier in some other threads about this exact thing. But we have to look at the degree of dedication a s-type has to the lifestyle.. That has a big impact on whether they would be willing to go through that kind of training for a D-type. Do you agree? Yes, I agree. But I would add we have to look at the degree of dedication a D-type has to the lifestyle and that impact on whether they would be willing to invest in that type of training. How is that different than other expectations or improvements a D-type might want? that type of training is generally not within the "definition" of the lifestyle.. So it might be awkward for one or both parties. I don't have a problem with it but perhaps others would.

subtee -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 11:34:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NathaninTexas that type of training is generally not within the "definition" of the lifestyle.. So it might be awkward for one or both parties. I don't have a problem with it but perhaps others would. Rut row! Edify me, please.

NathaninTexas -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 11:56:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtee quote: ORIGINAL: NathaninTexas that type of training is generally not within the "definition" of the lifestyle.. So it might be awkward for one or both parties. I don't have a problem with it but perhaps others would. Rut row! Edify me, please. looking back at my reply ... well it doesnt seem like a very educated statement What I mean to say more clearly is... I do not hear about weight control being used as a means of domination or control over another person. Maybe we should talk about it more often but its not even listed as a kink on any of the places im a member of... I think that if it was brought up for a serious discussion it would erupt into a bash fest... I have heard of instances of Doms/Dommes fattening the subs up... by makin them eat obscene amounts of food. I have not ever heard of them slimming them down though.. It is certainly an interesting proposition.

DarlingSavage -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 12:31:13 PM)
quote: I think what zephy is saying is that you can totally get off insulin, and for all intent and purpose, have a normal blood sugar, as long as you maintain the diet and/or exercise you've taken up. This is pretty much what happens to the pre-diabetics we spoke of earlier; if they veer off from eating well/exercise, the pre-diabetes comes back, so it isn't truly a "cure" in the traditional sense. She is sitting there repeating back to me what I just said, but for some reason, it's not valid coming from me, but it is from her? That doesn't make sense.

subtee -> RE: Why do we get all uppity about Weight based Threads? (3/26/2010 1:12:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NathaninTexas What I mean to say more clearly is... I do not hear about weight control being used as a means of domination or control over another person. Maybe we should talk about it more often but its not even listed as a kink on any of the places im a member of... Oops, I don't mean it has to be a means of domination. Just that domination might be flexed for that purpose? quote: ORIGINAL: NathaninTexas I think that if it was brought up for a serious discussion it would erupt into a bash fest... I get this sense too, which is why I was trying to be very sensitive, however, I don't know why it would be a bash fest, do you?

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