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Now I read that a German court has fined David Irving, the eccentric British historian, the sum of £3400 for querying this established fact. Similar laws against querying it exist in France and Austria. Obviously, it does not influence the truth or falsehood of the original proposition by one jot that various governments are prepared to impose criminal sanctions against anyone who questions or denies it. But I cannot help asking myself what sort of truth it is that requires these sanctions.

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In answer to your inquiry: National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism.
    Anti-semitism is of advantage to the exploiters as a lightning conductor that deflects the blows aimed by the working people at capitalism. Anti-semitism is dangerous for the working people as being a false path that leads them off the right road and lands them in the jungle. Hence Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but be irreconcilable, sworn enemies of anti-semitism.
    In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
Do you have a poster of Hitler that you masturbate to ?

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

And what if they don't tolerate us ?

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

thats what a court is is a stage.

genocide has never been evidenced, in fact the us army criminal medical corp said there was no genocide.

but lets just slaughter the truth

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German courts claim jurisdiction over holocaust denial regardless of citizenship or where it was said. They base that on the claim that in today's age of mass media, even something published in Australia could conceivably be read by a German. Two years ago, they asked Britain to arrest and extradite an Australian on the way from the USA to Dubai, for things he published in Australia (Britain refused).

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

According to what I understand T, the idiot gave an interview to the Swedish TV channel in Regensburg, Germany. It was then broadcast in Sweden but the nature of the comments attracted attention to him. The court had jurisdiction as it would appear, because he said what he said in Germany.

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I find that difficult to understand. It appears to make no sense - otherwise I should be extradited for things I have said here and elsewhere in public fora, including on this thread perhaps, that may be interpreted as "holocaust denial". Indeed if it were the case then we must account for the continued liberty of thousands of Brits who, as long time members of far right political movements, have committed an offence and continue to do so in this regard, not to mention many more thousands across many other European countries who have done and continue to do likewise.

There is EU competence to arrest, indict and try in the EU for war crimes anywhere in the world, but it cannot be that one state (ie Germany) may try citizens of other countries for words or deeds that were not an offence in the jurisdiction they were said or performed in; this would make a nonsense of jurisdiction.

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
Do you have a poster of Hitler that you masturbate to ?

There was a really powerful passage in Mein Kampf, where he was talking about porkin Eva with bitter herbs, and the onion chapter sorta made my eyes water.........

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Hitler never 'porked' a woman in his life....when he wrote 'I'm Camp' he meant it.......all rallies were tickets only affairs....handed out by him to a load of butch blond boys with blue eyes and granite jaws....while he stood ogling them with his leather suit on.

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Hitler never 'porked' a woman in his life....when he wrote 'I'm Camp' he meant it.......all rallies were tickets only affairs....handed out by him to a load of butch blond boys with blue eyes and granite jaws....while he stood ogling them with his leather suit on.

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Hitler never 'porked' a woman in his life....when he wrote 'I'm Camp' he meant it.......all rallies were tickets only affairs....handed out by him to a load of butch blond boys with blue eyes and granite jaws....while he stood ogling them with his leather suit on.

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Hitler never 'porked' a woman in his life....when he wrote 'I'm Camp' he meant it.......all rallies were tickets only affairs....handed out by him to a load of butch blond boys with blue eyes and granite jaws....while he stood ogling them with his leather suit on.

You have to laugh really.....semi-literate.....petty criminals....street thugs....odd balls....life's failures....and out-and-out bullies. Strength in order eh......they weren't particularly orderly.....nor 'strong'.....when the tables turned and the Russians were due to give them a taste of their own medicine....and like all bullies...they melted away and couldn't take what they'd given.

There's nothing more dangerous than a pack of idiots with an inferiority complex elevated to a position power.

And the hypnotism of the rallies?.....you'd have to be three sheets to the wind to be mesmirised by that gang of social misfits.