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The trade off, of course, is much higher prices for goods.
Given the success of Wal-Mart and other discount retailers, I doubt Americans are willing to pay what it would cost to "let the market" fix this. Truth is--this IS the market's solution.
Much higher consumer prices would also slow the economy--depressing the job market.
So the only solution or path for our country is to maintain a system in which we keep buying cheap, low-quality Chinese junk? And to keep the consumer junk cheap, we have to bring in unlimited foreign workers who will keep wages low and unemployment high? So that's what our great country has been reduced to? That fatalism has been fed to us from the top of the corporate empire, and it's turning us into slaves.
You can shoot at it all you want. I didn't recommend it--I pointed out that this is the situation.
Americans want it both ways--cheap goods AND high labor costs. When that doesn't work, they push for protectionism--expensive goods and high labor costs at the cost of productivity.
But people also don't want to hear what DOES work. We live on a globe. It's how things are. We have to address situations globally if we want them to work. We don't care about slavery--we just don't want to be the slaves. As long as that's the condition, this is what we'll get.
In the shorter term, continuing to increase exports helps us as labor and as an economy. "Made in America" is far more prevalent than people realize, but every time I share figures, we just get whining about global trade, denying the numbers, and crying to shut our borders, which would kill a third of our economy and throw millions out of work.
Even more insane is what YBD proposed, inflation. So we double wages, and double prices. What have we done? Two things. You can't buy anymore than you can now---and your savings are now cut in half. Dumb, dumb move.
Amid your righteous protest, got any real solutions?
Music, I'm an American and I don't want it both ways.
I want to be able to buy clothing and vehicles that's made in the USA. I'm not a "consumer" in that I consume a lot of goods. I buy what I "need" and that's all. To hear some people talk you'd think people were going into stores buying ten pairs of pants and shirts at a clip!
Choice is important to me to be able to buy things that are made in the USA.
I've looked at a lot of stuff and put it back on the rack when I see it's not made here.
I grew up in the 50's and 60's and we didn't have a lot of "stuff" like today and it didn't bother us!
Anytime I hear someone in the govt say that "they're concerned about the consumer" I don't really think they're "concerned about the consumer." I think they may be "concerned" about getting another "Free Trade" Bill through which will hurt the consumer!
If we all end up making $8 an hour we won't be doing a lot of "consuming" will we?
Like Mark Twain said, "We can't all make a living by taking in each other's wash."
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