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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 12:08:26 PM

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Hope was a wrong choice of words (I forgot I live in a very PC world, where everyone takes everything literally because they can’t argue the points, so they have to lower themselves to attacks and insults); it should have been when unfortunately and unavoidably it happens next.

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 12:28:40 PM

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The news conference is on now.

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 1:01:40 PM

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AQ would have done a better job. The wiring was described as amateurish, and the idea of leaving the engine running and hazard lights flashing is ridiculous - just draws attention. And an SUV could have had a lot more destruction within it than just three propane tanks and ten gallons of gas.

You mean like their shoe and panty bomb attempts?

I am watching the C.oP. press confrence... 4pm now...This bomb would have killed thousands had it gone off and the fires it would have started might still have been being fought today.

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 1:07:29 PM

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I agree, but it is still an attempted act of terrorism regardless of who was behind it and what their motivations were.

Terrorists are usually considered people from other countries or other side in a civil war. Not just someone who is a mass murderer. Were the people who mailed anthrax to the Senate terrorists. Not by that definition.

Neither, by that definition was the Unibomber or any fired postal employee who goes postal and shoots up a post office.

We're not saying this is correct, we're saying this may not be the right choice of word. What if it turns out to be an isolationist conspiracy nut from Idaho or Pennsylvania. Will the word terrorist apply then?

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 1:14:48 PM

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...This bomb would have killed thousands had it gone off and the fires it would have started might still have been being fought today.

I'd suggest that is exaggeration. The truck that bombed the Alfred P. Murrah building contained at least three 55 gallon drums of nitromethane, 108 fifty pound bags of fertilizer, several crates of the explosive Tovex, and several bags of ANFO. It only killed 163 people.

Granted, even one person killed is too many. But to generate even more fear by exaggerating the destructive power of this bomb only serves the interests of the terrorist.

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 1:17:38 PM

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yeah- a suit case dirty bomb. that would be messy.

Can you give me a rough estimate of the physical size of that puppy and it's weight?

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 1:22:20 PM

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If you can reduce the nuclear material to a singularity (which of course is gonna weigh more than the rap group the Fat Boys (an homage to Gen Groves et al)), I belive you could fit it in a refrigerator box.

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 1:23:30 PM

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Please don't tell me you are suggesting this was a government conspiracy

If we look at the history of the U.S. government do we see any patern of conspiracies or coverups.
Governments like people are creatures of habit.

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 1:26:16 PM

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Who doesn't love the USA!?

You clearly do not...
You brag constantly about leaving and taking all of your alleged money with you.

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 1:26:32 PM

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Apparently the Pakistan Taliban claimed responsibility on tape: http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/nyc/pakistani-taliban-claims-responsibility-20100502-ac

They however, taped it under the assumption that it went off. Hopefully, mostly for my safety, that was the only one.

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 1:28:09 PM

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I agree, but it is still an attempted act of terrorism regardless of who was behind it and what their motivations were.

I disagree. See my edit to the previous post.

Yes, I saw the edit but it really doesn't change anything unless you are making the distinction that one angry person does not fit the definition of terrorism because he is not part of a group that promotes a cause by use of violence.

Could you give us a quick definition of terrorist Please?

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 1:30:21 PM

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Perhaps you should look at newspapers on the web whilst in cyberspace.

I heard it on * gasp * one o' them pinko commie socialist nazi NPR affiliates.

Thank you for your advice, I will now do as you say.

Smart move she is one of the brighter posters here on CM.

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 1:34:25 PM

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those dirty fucking muslims!

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I think we should exterminate them

Facts first, please. Then actions.

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 1:37:50 PM

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...This bomb would have killed thousands had it gone off and the fires it would have started might still have been being fought today.

I'd suggest that is exaggeration. The truck that bombed the Alfred P. Murrah building contained at least three 55 gallon drums of nitromethane, 108 fifty pound bags of fertilizer, several crates of the explosive Tovex, and several bags of ANFO. It only killed 163 people.

Granted, even one person killed is too many. But to generate even more fear by exaggerating the destructive power of this bomb only serves the interests of the terrorist.

You know I really like it when you are right...
like right now.

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 1:41:38 PM

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If you can reduce the nuclear material to a singularity (which of course is gonna weigh more than the rap group the Fat Boys (an homage to Gen Groves et al)), I belive you could fit it in a refrigerator box.

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 1:47:55 PM

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I am watching the C.oP. press confrence... 4pm now...This bomb would have killed thousands had it gone off and the fires it would have started might still have been being fought today.

What a fear monger you are. It's people like you that start unnecessary wars. You believe and fall for everything.

BOO!!! How many people did I just kill?

Pussy.

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 2:18:49 PM

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I am watching the C.oP. press confrence... 4pm now...This bomb would have killed thousands had it gone off and the fires it would have started might still have been being fought today.

What a fear monger you are. It's people like you that start unnecessary wars. You believe and fall for everything.

BOO!!! How many people did I just kill?

Pussy.

wars are started by people who blow up things and blame a scapegoat and the retards that allow it.

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 2:25:11 PM

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Apparently the Pakistan Taliban claimed responsibility on tape: http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/nyc/pakistani-taliban-claims-responsibility-20100502-ac

They however, taped it under the assumption that it went off. Hopefully, mostly for my safety, that was the only one.

More ...

Pakistani Taliban claim credit for failed NYC Times Square car bombing
By Bill RoggioMay 2, 2010 10:24 AM

The tape has yet to be verified, but US intelligence officials contacted by The Long War Journal believe it is legitimate. The Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan News Channel on YouTube was created on April 30. Officials believe it was created to announce the Times Square attack, and Qari Hussain’s statement was pre-recorded.

All indications are the tape is legitimate. YouTube has pulled the video and shut down the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan News Channel since this article was published.

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 3:00:18 PM

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...This bomb would have killed thousands had it gone off and the fires it would have started might still have been being fought today.

I'd suggest that is exaggeration. The truck that bombed the Alfred P. Murrah building contained at least three 55 gallon drums of nitromethane, 108 fifty pound bags of fertilizer, several crates of the explosive Tovex, and several bags of ANFO. It only killed 163 people.

Granted, even one person killed is too many. But to generate even more fear by exaggerating the destructive power of this bomb only serves the interests of the terrorist.

arent you forgetting about the bombs that were on the inside that was reported in all the news reels that are all over bootube and that there was military expert familiar with fert bombs who mathematically prvoed it was blown from the inside out? The bomb trucks that hauled away the other 2 bombs?

How can you stop at the fert bomb when the building was intended to come down and all the witnesses heard 2 bombs go off?

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RE: Times Square bomb attempt. - 5/2/2010 3:07:38 PM

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arent you forgetting about the bombs that were on the inside that was reported in all the news reels that are all over bootube and that there was military expert familiar with fert bombs who mathematically prvoed it was blown from the inside out? The bomb trucks that hauled away the other 2 bombs?

How can you stop at the fert bomb when the building was intended to come down and all the witnesses heard 2 bombs go off?

*sighs* I'm not engaging you in a discussion on a conspiracy theory. My point stands on its own.

Unless you'd like to argue that there being bombs inside the APM building somehow makes this bomb from yesterday more powerful.