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RE: UK Election result - 5/10/2010 1:22:45 PM

Politesub53

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Mandelson, Brown, Adonis...... None of whom where elected to office. Can you see the electorate being happy if the Lib/Lab deal happens. Then they end up with Balls as PM !!

No, I dont think so either.

I suspect the next leader to be one of the Labour Miliband boys. Both from a Marxist background and both politically very smart guys. I think Balls blew his chance with the expenses scandal and the second home fiasco.

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RE: UK Election result - 5/10/2010 1:37:35 PM

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Re:talk of electorate not wanting/voting for X as PM.

The electorate is not united, those who voted cons won't be happy unless cameron is PM...but those who voted lab won't be happy if cameron is PM, and will be if it's some labour person instead of cameron.

I think most, although not all...of lib-dem voters would prefer a lib-lab alliance to conservative govt as well.
Some of the electorate won't be happy, no matter the result.....but I think of the possibilities available, lib-lab coalition is the more favoured among the electorate.
Would the electorate, if it could choose straight up between cons under Cameron or lib-lab under....Balls, or Milibands, or Darling or Straw.....or Clegg or Mandelson.....choose Cons&Cameron over any of those names?

Maybe, just maybe, cons could get more support if the specter of PMandelson rose....but other than that, I think it's fairly beyond reasonable dispute (and all polling evidence I'm aware of backs this up)...that despite the point the media keeps making, 'the electorate' would prefer lib-lab to cons.

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RE: UK Election result - 5/10/2010 1:45:38 PM

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I partly agree Woody. Some Liberal voters wont he happy if Cameron gets in, yet many wont be happy if Brown, or say Balls gets in either. Lets remember Balls only just won his own seat. I think many Lib Dems would be happy dealng with either of the Milibands though.

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RE: UK Election result - 5/10/2010 1:46:35 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Mandelson, Brown, Adonis...... None of whom where elected to office. Can you see the electorate being happy if the Lib/Lab deal happens. Then they end up with Balls as PM !!

No, I dont think so either.

I suspect the next leader to be one of the Labour Miliband boys. Both from a Marxist background and both politically very smart guys. I think Balls blew his chance with the expenses scandal and the second home fiasco.

Not to mention the fact the old boys name is Balls. It should think he was picked on enough in the playgrounds of Eaton. But to elevate namecalling upon the Prime Minister to the entire world and not just the Parliment and English Peoples, well, I daresay if Jeb Bush is our nexts president we would have Bush and Balls, and America always likes to play the guys roll.

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RE: UK Election result - 5/10/2010 1:53:38 PM

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tbh, labour (&most lab voters) will take anything they can get....imo Clegg should go into negotiations with them specifying which of the main candidates would need to win for a lib alliance. Labour can them organise another brown style non-competition....

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RE: UK Election result - 5/10/2010 1:55:16 PM

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then, obviously

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RE: UK Election result - 5/10/2010 2:25:12 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Mandelson, Brown, Adonis...... None of whom where elected to office. Can you see the electorate being happy if the Lib/Lab deal happens. Then they end up with Balls as PM !!

No, I dont think so either.

I suspect the next leader to be one of the Labour Miliband boys. Both from a Marxist background and both politically very smart guys. I think Balls blew his chance with the expenses scandal and the second home fiasco.

Not to mention the fact the old boys name is Balls. It should think he was picked on enough in the playgrounds of Eaton. But to elevate namecalling upon the Prime Minister to the entire world and not just the Parliment and English Peoples, well, I daresay if Jeb Bush is our nexts president we would have Bush and Balls, and America always likes to play the guys roll.

You feelin' me dawg?

It could be worse: Brown's chancellor of the exchequer is called Darling. I'm sure you guys will love having a British PM with a name like that.

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RE: UK Election result - 5/10/2010 2:31:38 PM

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I have long since made fun of your mr moneybags darling.

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RE: UK Election result - 5/10/2010 2:35:55 PM

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Fair enough.
I can see Sarah Palin talking to him at a G8 summit in 2012 already...
"Why does this Limey asshole want me to call him "darling"? Doesn't he know that I'm married?"

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RE: UK Election result - 5/10/2010 2:38:12 PM

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Sanity would come totally unglued if Obama bowed to Mr Darling, because he would think it is gay and shameful. So I am afraid the situation is far more urgent than our next presidents female confusion.

Ron

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RE: UK Election result - 5/10/2010 3:33:20 PM

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You feelin' me dawg?

"Don`t go wobbly on us now, George. "

Sometimes, the tail wags the dog.

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RE: UK Election result - 5/10/2010 3:34:32 PM

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Sanity would come totally unglued if Obama bowed to Mr Darling, because he would think it is gay and shameful. So I am afraid the situation is far more urgent than our next presidents female confusion.

Ron

More so if Obama bowed to see Balls.

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RE: UK Election result - 5/10/2010 3:35:08 PM

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Eastside Staines!
Respect!!!

Ali G MP

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RE: UK Election result - 5/10/2010 7:15:23 PM

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There's an Ali C, MP for Shetland Isles.

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RE: UK Election result - 5/11/2010 11:24:39 AM

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PM Brown resigns.

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RE: UK Election result - 5/11/2010 11:41:21 AM

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PM Brown resigns.

Both as PM and Labour leader, effective from now.

LibDems and Conservatives have both had to compromise to be able to work together.

Interesting times ahead. This should be more stable than a Labour/LibDem pact, since they command a majority vote in the Commons. Tax could be the sticking point. Voting reform isnt so important as cutting the defecit and I think Clegg sees this. I suspect several top jobs to go to the Liberals to keep them on board.

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RE: UK Election result - 5/11/2010 12:21:02 PM

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Since Cameron will have to: increase taxes, decrease public services, and instaure a general regimen of austerity (as he admitted himself), he's got his job cut out to become one of the most unpopular PMs in recent history. Thatcher, eat your heart out

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RE: UK Election result - 5/11/2010 12:32:26 PM

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Great Britain wouldnt have that problem if the Stuarts were still on the throne and the English would leave Wales and Scotland to become independent countries, and give northern Ireland back to the irish.

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RE: UK Election result - 5/11/2010 12:35:45 PM

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I'm afraid that's rather irrelevant, really...

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RE: UK Election result - 5/11/2010 12:43:17 PM

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I'm afraid that's rather irrelevant, really...

Not when you consider how many scot, welsh, and irish ghosts are working to give the British head aches...

Great Britain is suffering from a thousand years of bad karma, and the United States is suffering from 234 years of bad karma...

*wonders if my native american, scot, irish, welsh ancestry is clouding my opinion.

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