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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 8:35:49 AM

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 8:39:33 AM

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 8:43:39 AM

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Cheer now hun, but on that showing germany wont be going any further.

As far as i saw the england defence were left at home to watch the cricket, grandprix and didnt want to miss wimbledon.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 8:44:12 AM

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 8:46:34 AM

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oh cock

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 8:49:32 AM

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This really is the tough side of the draw, not Germany but the prospect of facing Argentina then either Spain or Portugal would have been hard.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 8:57:23 AM

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We'd have been hard pushed to beat a pub team on the showing this tournament.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 8:57:30 AM

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Cheer now hun, but on that showing germany wont be going any further.

As far as i saw the england defence were left at home to watch the cricket, grandprix and didnt want to miss wimbledon.

yeah I know *snort*....how full was the press in the last days about how "fearful" the german team would be about the "great" english team..the "3 lions roarring"

well, you can take your pussy cats back home now

and regarding your wisdom "but on that showing wont be going any further" at least our boys are prepared for the next stages of that tournament according to success in previous games...which doesn't appear to be very necessary for the british team

not to mention that even BBC sport admits that england can be lucky that it was "only" a 4:1 defeat...but ok...you nail it down as not so great performance...I couldn't care less

And "how dare" Beckenbauer to criticise at the beginning of the games the performance from the british team...instead of taking it as constructive criticism it was slashed down the hostility line a la...how dare he...how should he know what he is talking about after all

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 9:19:22 AM

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"yeah I know *snort*....how full was the press in the last days about how "fearful" the german team would be about the "great" english team..the "3 lions roarring""

What gets in newspapers for international football these days bears no resemblance to what the general population think, I'm glad they're dying out.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 10:55:18 AM

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On the plus side, the dream of every fan to one day play for England is now far more realistic. Old or young, male or female, able bodied or otherwise, a place in the back four is open; after all none of us could have done worse.

We could argue all day about the Lampard goal and how it might have changed the game had it been given. Bottom line though is that throughout this tournament we have been bloody awful and we werent exactly convincing in this game apart from for ten or fifteen minutes or so. NG has been right all along, but one ought to try to stay positive whilst the game is afoot. Now its over and over so emphatically we can feel free to let loose.

Our attack was insubstantial and inconsistent - quite why Rooney is such a totem is a mystery to me and quite what Heskey was ever there for I have no idea. And Crouch was pretty much excluded from consideration throughout, even though he scores more often than not. I bet the advertising department at Pringles are furious.

In midfield was the same, insubstantial and inconsistent. And the defence as noted might as well have been drawn from an over 40s pub league team for all the good they did. We cant hope to compete based on kick and run or on the basis of passing it one to another time and again in front of goal without anyone taking a shot, as if everyone has to have a touch. And we certainly cant hope to compete with a defence so disorganised that they might as well not be there.

Terry, Barry and Upson (despite the goal) should all be for the high jump, alongside Rooney, Heskey and above all Capello for fielding players in places in which they are not used to playing.

My brother suggested that they should all of them now be banned from playing for England for 12 months and whoever is the manager be obliged to choose a new squad. I quite like the idea.

As usual Gerrard worked his socks off, Lampard did well and James stood out since taking over in goal. As for the rest they got what they warranted and tomorrow morning in the papers will get more of the same.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 11:05:21 AM

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Well hell... they should pay me not to support a team... they always bite the dust.

I just wish the UK coach would have been like the American and not blame officiating for the loss but congratulate the victors on a game well played and wish them well in the competition.

There is little grace in this world it seems.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 11:28:18 AM

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Well, I don't recall any major fuckups in the american game by ref. We lost anyways, but I hope FIFA don't use that as an excuse to ignore the point.

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I was thinking that mebe not playing Rooney might be best, he wasn't performing...but the fans woulda gone mad. I don't find it mysterious why he (& Gerrard) are totemic, they are immense players (and I reckon Gerrard didn't do badly this campaign).

As for Heskey....mebe I'm biased, but there's more to playing up front than scoring goals, a few years back he was keeping Rooney out of the first team, and when they did let him in....it wasn't to replace Heskey, but Owen. Many different managers have selected him over and over and defended such, at villa he hasn't been in the first 11, but they apparently don't want him to leave either. I reckon they know what they're doing more than we do. Plus...he's in the premiership 100 club, so he clearly scores on occasion.

I'm not sure he works with Rooney though, Heskey & Defoe could be worth trying, but Rooney doesn't seem to thrive on him. It's not impossible for Owen to come back either, so I'd still have him pencilled in my squad for the euros.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 11:54:27 AM

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Rather than bother with video replays all it takes is one official fixed at each end with a flag?

How hard is that and how will this interrupt flow.

Not that this goal changed anything.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 12:05:01 PM

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In the Mexico vs Argentina game on now, just 2 minutes ago there was a goal scored from offside.

The video replay was shown on the big screen, and everyone in the stadium....including the ref, watched the player be offside. The ref knows for sure that the player was offside, but because he didn't say so before the replay came up, he is not allowed to write off the goal. The rules force him to enforce a decision that he (and everyone else in the world) knows is incorrect. It's a bit mad.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 12:15:12 PM

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This is because they can't accept that he is always correct even when he isn't correct. When someone makes a mistake it could benefit anyone, mistakes have no preference for either side. Thus people should just accept that if all that matters is what the ref sees then a mistake he makes will favour them one day just as the mistake today went against them. What occurred to the letter of the law isn't so important.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 12:52:04 PM

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Well, seems like we need to stop bitching about the Wembley Goal now.

The thing is with this....

It's our fuckin' game....and we gave it to the world....and there's more people (per head) in this country who watch football than any other country in the world.....we have third division teams that get bigger crowds than Juventus....England are the best followed team in the world....with a ridiculous amount of fans travelling to the end of the earth to watch the team......and yet...

We keep getting beat by these foreigners....still.......these pretenders....these Jonny-come-latelys who latch on to our game......

I don't think anyone abroad could possibly get a sense of the utter despair that is getting hold of the nation at this point....

It's not that it's the Germans....in fact by and large....bar the piss taking we actually quite like the Germans....it's more to do with England falling well short yet again.....and if there's any justice in this world they should have their pay cancelled for a year...because that performance.....and the group stages......was shocking...absolutely shocking.....so shocking they looked like a Sunday pub team....

And the goal....well.....you know what...it's done us a favour...because it's about time that England faced up to the fact they're shite....over paid and over rated.....there's something rotten in the English system because we were all over the place at times and that ain't good enough.....

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 1:04:36 PM

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Just to point out that all England players have long donated 100% of national pay to charity.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 1:19:12 PM

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Just to point out that all England players have long donated 100% of national pay to charity.

100% of their pay for a decade would be useful.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 2:08:13 PM

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Well, its all change here at Kittenham Manor and the German imperial flag now hangs where once hung the flag of England, that is tonight packed away until next time.

Oddly, the cats have not been in the house much since the England flag went up - I put it down to the weather but tonight its still very warm and I have cats again since the new flag went up. Perhaps the cats know more than theyre letting on? I'm going to let them pick the lottery numbers from now on too.

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RE: 2010 Football World Cup. - 6/27/2010 2:11:32 PM

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Well, its all change here at Kittenham Manor and the German imperial flag now hangs where once hung the flag of England, that is tonight packed away until next time.

Oddly, the cats have not been in the house much since the England flag went up - I put it down to the weather but tonight its still very warm and I have cats again since the new flag went up. Perhaps the cats know more than theyre letting on? I'm going to let them pick the lottery numbers from now on too.

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