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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 10:28:19 PM   
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Give Islam the same respect afforded other equally sexist, intolerant, violent groups- say, the KKK, Republican Party and the Aryan Nations.


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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 11:01:03 PM   
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Eww another scary black man.....

Careful rich,someone might say you`re try`n to frighten the masses.




Put it right back up your ass, O59.



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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 11:09:18 PM   
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Steyn's neo-conservative bias is worthy of mention in your post in all fairness, don't you think, Rich?


No. It was a one sentence comment. I must have missed the TOS requirement of footnotes.

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So, what are these two advocating but nothing less than a war against all of Islam? Any suggestions on what the strategy might be? Perhaps a new Crusade and Inquisition for those who do not convert. Well gee, we haven't played those fun games in quite awhile.

Madness.


Fun question. Life starts early tomorrow, though, so it will have to wait.

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 11:30:13 PM   
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The left�s strange hostility to Hirsi Ali


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Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s great cause is women’s liberation. Unfortunately for her, the women she wants to liberate are Muslim, so she gets minimal support and indeed a ton of hostility from Western feminists who have reconciled themselves, consciously or otherwise, to the two-tier sisterhood: when it comes to clitoridectomies, forced marriages, honour killings, etc., multiculturalism trumps feminism. Liberal men are, if anything, even more opposed. She long ago got used to the hectoring TV interviewer, from Avi Lewis on the CBC a while back to Tavis Smiley on PBS just the other day, insisting that say what you like about Islam but everyone knows that Christians are just as backward and violent, if not more so. The media left spends endless hours and most of its interminable awards ceremonies congratulating itself on its courage, on “speaking truth to power,” the bravery of dissent and all the rest, but faced with a pro-gay secular black feminist who actually lives it they frost up in nothing flat.



Ok. Maybe they don't hate her quite as much as Sarah Palin, but the message sure isn't very popular.

Maybe you and the moron who wrote this article missed it but leftists are the ones oppsoing most of that crap and certainly the ones who brought attention to stuff like FGM. Never heard of Ms Ali but I see no reason to believe most on the left wouldn't embrace her if not all of her positions.

BTW Tavis Smiley is a terrible interviewer and how he got a TV and radio show is simply beyond me. His opinions are his and his alone and certainly do not reflect those of most liberals and progressives.

But it is nice to see you quoting a column by such an unabashed bigot as Steyn. Your charade of "I'm a moderate who didn't leave the Democratic party, it left me" lie was boring in the extreme.


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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/12/2010 12:46:34 AM   
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Sheesh, we have people living under bridges and the shelters are full in this country and this kook is worried about liberating muslims in Iran, Iraq or Crapistan?


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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/12/2010 12:54:57 AM   
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Give Islam the same respect afforded other equally sexist, intolerant, violent groups- say, the KKK, Republican Party and the Aryan Nations.


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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/12/2010 7:53:16 AM   
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Give Islam the same respect afforded other equally sexist, intolerant, violent groups- say, the KKK, Republican Party and the Aryan Nations.


fixed


Gosh, Owner is going to love you now. Maybe the two of you can hook up and spend hours talking about how much you hate anyone on the right. I think all bigots should have at least one friend to hang with and you guys are made for each other


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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/12/2010 8:53:08 AM   
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What about the fact that it`s the "liberal" media ,The Tavis Smilely Show,that did the interview?





Three things rich and the cons like about her.

1.Claims to be a victim of the left,when in fact,that`s untrue(gotta have both aliments for full fun)

2.Spreads the vicious vile hate speech that rich and the cons eat for breakfast lunch and diner.Especially the tried and true"not all Muslims are terrorist but most/all terrorist are Muslims. Tell that to Mrs.Tiller.

3.Like the hateful nutter Ann Coulter,this atheist suggests we not try to create a dialog between the west and Islam,build bridges or understand each other.But instead wants to do the worst most insulting and most guaranteed to fail thing possible,try to convert as many Muslims as possible.



No wonder rich is hawt for her.


I find it fascinating that this atheist can make judgments on who`s religion is better.




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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/12/2010 9:00:15 AM   
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Steyn's neo-conservative bias is worthy of mention in your post in all fairness, don't you think, Rich?


No. It was a one sentence comment. I must have missed the TOS requirement of footnotes.


Not TOS, Rich. Just wondering why you were hiding the neocon credentials of your boy. Maybe because the neocons were responsible for 1400 dead American men and women in the needless invasion of Iraq. Not much credibility with that gang anymore.

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So, what are these two advocating but nothing less than a war against all of Islam? Any suggestions on what the strategy might be? Perhaps a new Crusade and Inquisition for those who do not convert. Well gee, we haven't played those fun games in quite awhile.

Madness.


quote:

Fun question. Life starts early tomorrow, though, so it will have to wait.


Wait for what? Enough time for your heroine to sell some more books in the decadent West? That's her answer, right? Convert the heathens? Haven't we seen that movie before?

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/12/2010 9:00:28 AM   
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(Being a card carrying far left howler, I wanted to be up with the latest communique from HQ)



You should be honored that you were were promoted from troll.

I'm still waiting for my promotion.

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/12/2010 9:03:37 AM   
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Give Islam the same respect afforded other equally sexist, intolerant, violent groups- say, the KKK, Republican Party and the Aryan Nations.


fixed


Gosh, Owner is going to love you now. Maybe the two of you can hook up and spend hours talking about how much you hate anyone on the right. I think all bigots should have at least one friend to hang with and you guys are made for each other



Good move, boi! The old reliable bigot card. Way to go. That's showing 'em. Strong stuff that.

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/12/2010 9:08:10 AM   
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According to neoconservative Irwin Stelzer, Bush had read and recommended to his staff and friends Steyn's Islamophobic bestseller, America Alone: The End of the World As We Know It.



I'm pretty sure this is a mistake.

He probably meant to say someone read it to Bush.

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/12/2010 9:19:58 AM   
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Good move, boi! The old reliable bigot card. Way to go. That's showing 'em. Strong stuff that.


The funniest part is that she claims not to be defending the most vile disgusting aliments of society.

We`re being to hard and harsh on the bigots race baiters......

Also vincent,you`re off by 3000 the number of our sons and daughters killed in Iraq.Not to mention the 100,thousand or so Iraqi civilian violent deaths.

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/12/2010 10:04:22 AM   
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O59 you do realize that good Muslims don't want dialogue or rhetorical bridges either. If you do not capitulate to their demands and ideas, you must die; that's their doctrine not mine.I suspect you think by appeasing them this won't happen to you personally. But you're wrong, just like the unseen elements that are infiltrating the American Left under false pretense and lies the Islamic faith has sefdom of all humanity as it's ultimate objective.

Do you O59, denouce all religions, atheists ideas or any philosophical point of view (most particularly individual freedom) apart from the one true religion of Islam? Just say it and you're in. Oh, go back on that and you're dead though. Stoning or some shit like that.

Now I don't like spending money or lives over there, but I like the idea of the rads coming here even less.

I suggest that you grow up and stop living in your overly protected existance, once you leave the borders of the west and in particular the United States, you are just another chunk of meat, fry right or be discarded. Unless you're pork, then you're just trash, that's the devils meat you know.

I'm not a righty or a lefty, I think both sides are fucked in the head and all the while they want to proclaim the righteous stance of doing it right and being about the people, it only happens if you agree with them, their rules and their own view of protectionism.

Sorry Ms. Ali, we got side tracked, I know who you are and I'll do like I do for everyone, I'll judge you on your own individual character, as a person. It will be your word and deed; not your party, sex, race or eye color that garners my attention. Good luck.........

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we not try to create a dialog between the west and Islam,build bridges or understand each other.But instead wants to do the worst most insulting and most guaranteed to fail thing possible,try to convert as many Muslims as possible.




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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/12/2010 10:58:37 AM   
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Maybe because the neocons were responsible for 1400 dead American men and women in the needless invasion of Iraq. Not much credibility with that gang anymore.


That's right sunshine. And all the people on the left were outraged and said "no don't go" but those damn neocons held guns to their head and made them agree.

Tell me something, when you can't get laid, do you blame that on the right also?


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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/12/2010 11:00:14 AM   
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I don't think it's that hard to see the hate. But it doesn't surprise me a bit that you don't.


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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/12/2010 11:01:41 AM   
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I am not defending anyone. I was calling you a hateful bigot. But I am not sure why I bother, your posts speak for themselves.

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/12/2010 11:42:26 AM   
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I am not defending anyone. I was calling you a hateful bigot. But I am not sure why I bother, your posts speak for themselves.


I like that folks posts speak for themselves, that is why I like to see O59 post cause he is cool and has good points to make. I am not picking on the hateful bigot part though.

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/12/2010 12:43:40 PM   
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Here is the thing.... Change comes from within, and I support her in her efforts to reform, educate, and to change practices that she does not agree with. She wants to Westernize Islam, go her!

BUT, I do not feel the White Woman's Burden to save the world, and I know successful change comes from within. There are enough problems for women in this country that need reforming...


You know, in the last three places I have lived a woman was murdered by her significant other. In Clovis there was a murder suicide, in San Pedro a young woman was shot a block away from me in her car while she was attempting to go to work. In Long Beach a couple of weeks ago I could not leave my apartment because they had blocked off portions of Downtown because this douche shot his girl friend and killed her.... Violence against women is rampant in this country, as is the sexual exploitation of them.... Pull the splinter out of your own eye before attempting to pull it out of your sister/brother's....

This seems a goodly attempt by the author of this article to cast "feminism" and the "left" and "multiculturalism" in a negative light, and yet I see no quotes from these so called feminists and leftists to support his contention that we do not support feminism in that part of the world.... typical

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/12/2010 1:00:02 PM   
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I am not defending anyone. I was calling you a hateful bigot. But I am not sure why I bother, your posts speak for themselves.


well well,oh my....

No,... please,... bother.

Please point out where I`ve said something bigotted.



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