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crazyml -> RE: The dangers of mind control. (6/12/2010 12:09:51 PM)
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Fuckit - I'm going to have a stab at this one.
My first reply was going to be
"Plasticine, look into my eyes... This is not the forum you are looking for"
Just to see if my mind control expertise came close to yours.
But instead...
First - Mr P, welcome to the boards!
This is a courageous (or foolish) first post - and your handling of the vigorous responses you can expect to say will help us all decide which category you fall into.
I have to admit that right up front, my jackass detector did go off. In fact it blew a fuse. But, I'm unplugging it for now.
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ORIGINAL: Plasticine
Hello.
I was hoping to get some opinions from experienced Doms on an issue that I take very seriously. I am not going to explain how to control someone's mind, nor should anyone else. Those who understand will know how it is done. It is also how sicko predators do their business, so we must let that information lie where it does.
Per leadership's comment - Mind control is pretty much accepted as b/s. That said, there are hosts of examples of people using a combination of charisma, coercion, and CBT/NLP techniques to control others. We've got Cults (typically lead by charismatic whackos), we've got those situations where people remain in abusive relationships etc etc.
So, while I applaud your injunction to us all not to share our Mind Control secrets - I'm really not sure there are any secrets.
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People submit to me too easily. I mean too easily for their own good. That was true in my vanilla life, but I had no idea.
I'm playing a super straight bat with this one - despite the klaxon that's going off in my head - and say that it seems as if you have a huge amount of charisma, and you're adept at applying (either consciously or unconsciously) CBT/NLP techniques.
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Now that I realize what I am and can wield it on purpose I am able to take the willing into trance almost by accident.
First - a question when you say "I realize what I am" - could you tell us what you mean?
Second, if you can take the willing into a trance almost by accident, then get thee thither to an agent and get your ass onto the television - top hypnotists take many years to hone their skills to this level.
If you've not had years of training, I'm guessing you must be some kind of savant - which isn't beyond the bounds of possibility.
On my first NLP course I realised that I've been doing "NLP" unconsciously for years - not because I'm "gifted" but because (I guess) I seem to have learnt over time by trial and error that certain behaviours (eg always compliment the check-in clerk at the airport) produce better results than others (eg Bellowing at the check-in clerk that I'm exec plat and if she doesn't upgrade me right now I'm going to be pissed) - Clearly my Mind Control skills are nothing like as good as yours.
I've also done some palm reading (which is of course a parlour game) and some hypnosis) if I were any good at either of these, I'd be too busy preparing for my next show at the Venetian to be posting on these boards, but I've had some success with both - And sure, I've found some people who are extremely suggestible.
I also know that if I tried the old razzle-dazzle with any of the regular female posters on this board, I'd be told to fuck off
(You know who you are!)
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I am extremely honest. I understand Mind Control and I understand my responsibility as a Dom. When I am dominating I can feel the wave the sub is on and I understand that I am in control of the empathy we share in that space,
This suggests very high levels of empathy - really important in NLP/CBT/Hypnosis. And yes, it can feel like a "power" - but (with respect) I would caution you to be really sure of your level of expertise before writing a post that sort of implies that you're some kind of jedi (which you may indeed be, and if you are, I apologise).
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I also understand that this is a HUGE responsibility. I do not want to brainwash anyone, I am a protector not a predator.
Due to my personality and skill set I am inside people's heads before I even know it, even in casual conversation.
You see... I just don't know what to make of this statement. That klaxon is going off again - and that's even after I've pulled the plug out - I'm tempted to ask you
"Can you tell what I'm thinking now?"
It shouldn't be difficult, and I'll bet a fiver that SunshineMiss, Lally, Leadership and half a dozen others would be able to tell you.
If you'd said "As a result of my personality and skill set I find that I'm very often in a situation where I can get inside people's heads, even in a casual conversation", I may not be having to fish around for another fuse for the old JD.
Are you really sure that you can see inside everybody's head? most people's? many people's?
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I can't not be this way.
What way?
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I am a Dom. How far is too far? Are there steps that one can take to deliberately prevent induction?
So... are you saying that you find people falling to a hypnotic trance just as a matter of course when you talk to them? Even when you're not consciously trying?
I'm..... let's say "sceptical" about the truth of this statement. Does it happen often? Can you describe a situation in which this has actually occurred? (don't give away any of those secrets mind you!).
If you're as smart as you believe you are, I cannot imagine you'd not be able to adapt your behaviour in a way that prevents passers-by slumping into trance every time you appear.
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How do I be certain that my moral compass will not be skewed by my sadism?
Thank you.
That's a really interesting general question that is applicable to all sadists I think.
My best answer is - do exactly the same thing with your moral compass as you'd do with a real compass - swing your moral compass regularly, don't let the scene, relationships or fantasy cause deviation - and when you think it may have done, then swing that compass again.
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