SimplyMichael -> RE: Feminism and submission (7/5/2010 3:21:17 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Elisabella Just out of curiosity is there any choice a woman actively makes that is not considered feminist? On one level, you just wrote the most elegant post in the thread. However, ones choices are constrained by society, the choices of a woman living in one of the more whacked out Muslim extremist looney bins might actively make a choice but of what choices can she choose? To wear a burka or be stoned to death? Both active choices, but neither what most here would consider free. A woman choosing to submit to man in a very overt way is frowned upon in our wider society, a man choosing to do so to a woman is a laughing stock in our society, so both decisions are not fully open to them, however, the social cost is a bit less than being stoned to death. Society frames what sort of choices we even can conceptualize and changes in society or things like technology can change the choices we have open to us. Birth control suddenly "allowed" women to enjoy sex for pleasure in the same risk free way men had been able to do since the dawn of time. That had a profound effect on the choices available for women now that they were freed from the risk of pregnancy. (for those who seek targets for potshots, the above is not an editorial on the value of children, mothers, sex, muslims, or anything other than examples to explore the concept of choice)
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