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taken2010 -> RE: Why are you here? (7/17/2010 4:00:47 AM)

CP,

When I first joined CM I was just getting my toes wet and looking for what I considered to be kink. I didn't discover BDSM until I was well into my 40's although the desire manifested itself in my mid to late 30's due to the relationship I was involved in at the time.

What I have discovered for myself is that I need the power exchange dynamic to feel fulfilled and the rest of it is just icing on the cake.

As to WHY I hang around CM now, is for the boards and any insights I can gain that might help me. On occassion I may respond to a post or in a private cmail to the original poster IF I feel I can offer some words of insight into the situation they may have posted about.




Aileen1968 -> RE: Why are you here? (7/17/2010 4:03:20 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Firebirdseeking

Scratches her head and thinks how rude she is. 

I am wondering why people cannot disagree or express an opinion without going for the jugular.


And yet you are doing exactly what you just called someone else out for.
You seem to be the "nice police". You called me out on another thread because you didn't seem to like the advice I gave or the way I gave it.
It really is none of your business how people respond to threads or why they respond as they do.

Celtic Prince has a history of passive aggressively criticizing the responses he gets to his thread...especially from women. Perhaps you two are related?




CelticPrince -> RE: Why are you here? (7/17/2010 4:33:35 AM)

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I return because my exploration of BDSM played a large part in molding me into the woman I am, and I like her a lot.

In truth, I don't think that I really started living, until I stepped out on my own at 30 and allowed myself the right to explore what I wanted and needed to be happy. Up until that point, everything I had done had been what was expected of me by parents, the church and my husband.

It is kind of a cliche', but I was one of those women who had never had an orgasm until she was 30. Despite having been married and given birth to 4 children.

The day I stumbled upon BDSM, I went in search of how to experience it. Within a week I was at a munch, that night I was at my first playparty. In a month I was incorporating our group as a Non-profit and renting a place for us to play in. That was more than 12 years ago, and as far as I know the group still exists. It felt good to be a part of something, and still feels good to know that I had a hand in its birth and growth.

There is really no way to express exactly how shy I was then. I lacked confidence in myself, but I made up for it with an insatiable desire to learn, and to experience things.

I did more the first year of my exploration of BDSM than I did the entire 30 years of my life prior to that.

Munches, play parties, training under female dominants to learn technique, attending Leather Leadership conferences, being collared, learning to love and share and give as a member of a poly household, meeting authors, attending Lord's of Leather Mardi Gras Balls and attending their party at a Gay Leather bar, organizing events, tesifying in court, and throwing myself into the experience of it all has been an amazing journey for me. It opened up a world of life experiences for me, that I never knew before had existed.

This doesn't even cover the intimate, personal growth where I learned how to stand up for myself. To set limits, and accept that it was ok to demand those limits were respected.

I return, because this is where I grew up. No, not on CM, but on my path of personal growth and fulfillment.


WD,

Your reflection on your discovery and growth is to be applauded.
Many thanks for sharing that.

CP




KatyLied -> RE: Why are you here? (7/17/2010 5:21:29 AM)

quote:

You need a dominant man to even tell you what views you should even have... does that answer your question?


[:D]  This explains what is wrong with me!!




Jeffff -> RE: Why are you here? (7/17/2010 8:10:18 AM)

You need a dominant man to tell you what views you should have here.




juliaoceania -> RE: Why are you here? (7/17/2010 8:31:50 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Firebirdseeking

Scratches her head and thinks how rude she is. 

I am wondering why people cannot disagree or express an opinion without going for the jugular.


Yet his rudeness is acceptable to you...typical





WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Why are you here? (7/17/2010 9:42:14 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

It's a nasty habit to criticize something that alters a past order. If it's not kids with pants around their asses it's how the internet has changed bdsm.


Now you have open air forums to discuss the bullshit and the ridiculous protocols that were once part of bdsm culture. You have a place that people can arm themselves with knowledge and not be duped by these fuckwads that claim to have all of the answers or are the path to bdsm enlightenment.



The funny thing about this (or one of the funny things about this,) is it reminds me of a Leather Leadership Conference I attended. I was sitting in the lobby of the hotel room, talking to an elderly gay gentleman and his life partner. He laughed, his eyes sparkling, as he talked about how it amused him how the old days get romanticized, as if they were better and greater. I had a wonderful tiime just sitting and listening to hiim recount his history. Some of it was pretty awesome (and horrifying). When I told him this, he just smiled and told me, "What is really awesome, is the life you are living here and now."

He had a wealth of history and life experience to reflect upon, and was kind enough to share some of it with me, but he wasn't arrogant or an asshat. I try to keep that in mind, when I reflect back on things. I genuinely think that the Gay Leather history was amazing, but I think the here and now is pretty amazing too. I do hope that I did not/do not come across as an arrogant asshat.





CelticPrince -> RE: Why are you here? (7/17/2010 10:53:34 AM)

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I find your questions condescending, your attitude towards young people condescending, your position towards how other people choose to dominate condescending...

In essence, I find you condescending.... guess what, no one gives a fuck how long you claim you have been a dominant... in fact, I would wonder, if someone has to try soooo very hard to bolster their credibility at other people's expense, how fucking dominant could they be?


Your post above answers that question


julia,

Damn lady, your so exciting when you talk dirty...........now as for that chip on your shoulder; you have to find another to knock it off as I only knock off Dominant chips............I know , how condescending that sounds!

CP




mikeyOfGeorgia -> RE: Why are you here? (7/17/2010 11:07:56 AM)

quite simply, and all kidding aside...i am here because i am a submissive and have been forever. that will never change.




juliaoceania -> RE: Why are you here? (7/17/2010 12:12:45 PM)

quote:

............I know , how condescending that sounds!


The sad thing is I believe you are very aware of how condescending you are, it is what you shoot for, after all.

I find so little to admire about someone who has to tear down others to make themselves appear more important than they really are.... I actually feel sorry for you, because for all your bluster, you really come off as a rather smallish sort of person




CelticPrince -> RE: Why are you here? (7/17/2010 12:30:25 PM)

quote:

I find so little to admire about someone who has to tear down others to make themselves appear more important than they really are.... I actually feel sorry for you, because for all your bluster, you really come off as a rather smallish sort of person

julia,

see, now you have wandered from truth and fact! While I may disagree with a person's position in a "passive agressive manner, I take great pains to avoid insult or teardown of anyone........just for the record!

As I may not meet your idea of what a dominant should be, that is not shared by all

CP
CP




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Why are you here? (7/18/2010 10:24:29 AM)

Thank you, I have a hard time defining stuff sometimes when asked to, but I hope my answer was sufficient.

quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince



Topping,

Indeed you have a fertile mind on "kink!

Thanks for your thoughts.

CP




CelticPrince -> RE: Why are you here? (7/20/2010 7:10:11 PM)

quote:

CP,

When I first joined CM I was just getting my toes wet and looking for what I considered to be kink. I didn't discover BDSM until I was well into my 40's although the desire manifested itself in my mid to late 30's due to the relationship I was involved in at the time.

What I have discovered for myself is that I need the power exchange dynamic to feel fulfilled and the rest of it is just icing on the cake.

As to WHY I hang around CM now, is for the boards and any insights I can gain that might help me. On occassion I may respond to a post or in a private cmail to the original poster IF I feel I can offer some words of insight into the situation they may have posted about.


taken,

Thanks for deciding this thread was one that caught your attentio; the boards are a fine way to view and learn but a surprising low number of CM peeps take advantage of them compared to the population.

CP




Firebirdseeking -> RE: Why are you here? (7/21/2010 8:55:03 AM)

How interesting that you think I am the "nice" police and that it is not my business how or why people respond as they do. If you want to defend your freedom of speech, you better make sure you are defending mine as well. It sounds like you want to say whatever the h you want but if I have a reaction to what you say, its none of my business?

I am not related to CP. I happen to agree - as I understand him - with many of his views on D/s relationships.

The boards often seem to be a place where people often "have" to be right. And, at the risk of sounding, again, like the "nice police", I do think that points can be made with respect, and not with venom or condescension.




slavekal -> RE: Why are you here? (7/21/2010 8:29:37 PM)

It's who and what I am.  I have always known that I needed to submit to a dominant woman.  I could not be happy in any other type of relationship.




CelticPrince -> RE: Why are you here? (7/22/2010 5:42:18 PM)

quote:

quite simply, and all kidding aside...i am here because i am a submissive and have been forever. that will never change.



mikey,

Well lad it took some time for you to get there [serious] but you did, thanks for your input.

CP




sweetsub1957 -> RE: Why are you here? (7/22/2010 7:44:46 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince
So my question or query is this if you have the intestinal fortitude to address it...............Why do you walk the path?

I spent the first 50 years of my life as an unfulfilled, unhappy 'nilla. Then two sub men I met on a 'nilla dating site told me what submissive is. When I had my first bdsm experience, I felt like I "had come home." I am still "here" because:
(1)I NEED that D/s dynamic and power exchange to be happy in a relationship...it's not a want, it is a need.
(2)I NEED to act on my natural tendency to submit. If I don't, I'm not allowing me to be me & I feel like a fake.
(3)Vanilla relationships are way too boring and blah for me. They are lacking.
(4)Being submissive to my Dominant partner is rewarding in a way that nothing else is or ever has been in my life.
(5)And, lol, I love bondage. [:D]

~sweetsub~




CelticPrince -> RE: Why are you here? (7/23/2010 6:03:01 AM)

quote:

It's who and what I am. I have always known that I needed to submit to a dominant woman. I could not be happy in any other type of relationship.

_


slavekal,

thanks for the input, but submission is such a broad term; can you tighten that up a bit?

CP




CelticPrince -> RE: Why are you here? (7/24/2010 2:38:38 PM)

quote:

I spent the first 50 years of my life as an unfulfilled, unhappy 'nilla. Then two sub men I met on a 'nilla dating site told me what submissive is. When I had my first bdsm experience, I felt like I "had come home." I am still "here" because:
(1)I NEED that D/s dynamic and power exchange to be happy in a relationship...it's not a want, it is a need.
(2)I NEED to act on my natural tendency to submit. If I don't, I'm not allowing me to be me & I feel like a fake.
(3)Vanilla relationships are way too boring and blah for me. They are lacking.
(4)Being submissive to my Dominant partner is rewarding in a way that nothing else is or ever has been in my life.
(5)And, lol, I love bondage.

~sweetsub~


sweetsub,

trust me, you in fine company as many have found the path later in life and often after a loooooooooong straight nilla relationship; be it marriage or other. Excitement has finally found its way into life........good on ya lass and thanks for your contribution.

CP




ResidentSadist -> RE: Why are you here? (7/24/2010 11:57:07 PM)

One of my lovers early in life was a kinky bisexual swinger with a leather fetish. I was 15. There hasnt been a place for me the vanilla world since. That's why I'm here.




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