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RacerJim -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 5:59:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

where are they going, is there some great white hope in the teabaggers or even over in the rino pen?


If you'd quit drinking so much ObamaAid you might find out where they are going, but the point is they are leaving Obama!




RacerJim -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:00:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Ya........ that Palin wench apparently.[:D]

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3322244/tm.htm



Your mamma apparently didn't warn you about making a$$umptions.




RacerJim -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:02:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Fortunately not all of 'us Independents' agree.


Too bad for you an ever-increasing majority of Independents do agree.




Jeffff -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:08:15 AM)

I don't believe the Klan qualifies as independent




RacerJim -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:09:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

He has sold out each platform he ran on. He ran for the center as soon as he was elected. The only promise he kept was about the one thing I was against, which was escalating our involvement in Afghanistan

He didn't do effective healthcare reform

He didn't close Guantanamo

Don't ask don't tell is still on the books

Wall Street reform has no teeth

He keeps trying to seem "nonpartisan", which believe it or not, the American people ARE partisan against republicans at this point... he squandered his mandate by kissing republican ass and letting them call the shots

I told myself if he did not get socialized healthcare reform in this country with a public option I wasn't voting for him again... I'm not


We, the 46% who realized who/what Obama was BEFORE election day, repeatedly warned you about Obama BEFORE the election but you were too kool-aid impaired to hear us.

How's it feel to be run over by the Obama bus? LOL




RacerJim -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:13:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

You don't win elections without us Independants.

I don't get the impression you lads voted for him during the last one. Most of the "independents" on this board only seem to be using that term of late because they're ashamed to admit that they vote Republican, after all.


I get the impression that you don't research any subject before you open your mouth about it. You seem to enjoy showing everyone what an ignoramous you are.




Louve00 -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:26:46 AM)

The way I see it, you, the 46% who thought you realized Obama BEFORE election day, repeatedly warned us, the other 54%, but isn't it great to be in America??  We don't have to listen to you.  By the way...I wouldn't have been happy with a flip-floppy McCain who changes his mind every day on the issues...or a flighty Palin...who follows the money, not her principles.  Or maybe her principles is her money??

And what bus do you mean? LOL




RacerJim -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:31:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

You don't win elections without us Independants.



perhaps one day you will actually read the constitution and realize your vote counts for nothing.
Presidents in the u.s. are appointed by the electoral college...one would think that a grown man would have learned that at some time in his life.
You are a citizen right? This is shit you are suppose to know.



Perhaps you'd care to post a quote from the U.S. Constitution wherein it says, or even implies, that an Independent cannot vote for a Democrat or Republican.
Grow up little boy.
If you are a citizen you shouldn't be allowed to vote.




rulemylife -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:31:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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Spare me the pity party.

I support government health care wholeheartedly.

It doesn't exist yet.

So tell me what your priorities are?

You have 15,000 posts on this site in four years.

So you seem to have a great deal of time on your hands and you obviously can afford internet service but you are too poor to afford health care?


You want to be ugly to me, have at it, I will reiterate. I have the right to vote anyway I like for any reason I want.... you don't like that, who cares, I don't

The title on this thread is Obama is losing support amongst independents and white people, I am an independent white person who he is losing support from. I wanted to vote Green last election and voted Obama instead. Now you may not like that, you may want to get personal and attack me because of that, but it isn't changing the fact that independents are starting to reconsider Obama.

There are many who lack health insurance that are not happy with the compromise from the congress and the white house, I am not the only one... why not jump up and down on the rest of us that do not have work, etc, and cannot afford healthcare insurance

And psssttttt.... believe it or not, I have to have an internet connection because of school, and guess what? It is free through the college....

edited to add.... I like Obama. I want him to do well. I wish I could feel differently about all the things that are making me consider voting Green next election... just he hasn't done those things yet. Perhaps he will return to being liberal, which is why he won, we thought he was a liberal, we were voting for a liberal... we wanted CHANGE.... he needs to start providing that




You like to ramble all over the place don't you?

YOU brought up the issue of how you can't afford health insurance.

Now you are meandering off into other subjects while purposefully ignoring the point YOU raised.

Edited to add that whatever school you are attending has a health care plan you can enroll in and add in to your student loans.

Going without is just completely irresponsible.








mnottertail -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:32:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim
We, the 46% who realized who/what Obama was BEFORE election day, repeatedly warned you about Obama BEFORE the election but you were too kool-aid impaired to hear us.

How's it feel to be run over by the Obama bus? LOL


And if you would have warned us about Reagan, Nixon, Bush and Bush, we'ed a listened to ya.  As it is, your track record of ruining the country is so inured in our minds that there is no saving grace by listening to you. 




Louve00 -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:34:08 AM)

An independent certainly can vote for a democrat or a republican.  He just can't vote in the primaries in some states.  And that means, he can't "pick" which democrat or republican will be running in the race.  Also, you're batting 0 here.  By the looks of Popeye's avatar, he doesn't look like a little boy to me.  And "If you are a citizen you shouldn't be allowed to vote."????  [8|]




RacerJim -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:36:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Hes made us into a nation of racists, obviously.



I don't think anyone had to make you into anything Charlie Brown.



I think you've been drinking too much ObamaAid.




RacerJim -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:40:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

You don't win elections without us Independants.


If you're an Independent then I must be Sarah Palin's twin brother.


Can't refute the message so desparage the messenger, eh? Sad, but typical.




mnottertail -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:49:50 AM)

First off, you gotta have a message to refute. That is, you actually have to say something that is at least peripherally true, logical and worthy of consideration.





rulemylife -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:50:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Everything costs.

What is the most important thing?


Drugs and trashy women...health care is not even in the same zip code.


You left out booze.

Hunter is rolling over in his grave right now.




Sanity -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:52:45 AM)


Full panic is setting in among the left. Just imagine how much more vile and ugly they'll be come November!


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ORIGINAL: RacerJim


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Hes made us into a nation of racists, obviously.



I don't think anyone had to make you into anything Charlie Brown.



I think you've been drinking too much ObamaAid.




RacerJim -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:53:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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Without the compromise there would be no health care reform and there would be no financial reform.


I am uninsured. I could go on all day and all night why we needed better healthcare reform, but I am coming at this from a completely selfish point of view, I want health insurance I can afford because I want to live a long time.... this was not up for compromise for me.




Do have auto insurance?  Homeowner's insurance?

If so, why would you not have health insurance?



Principle? As in, the principle of the U.S. Constitution?




RacerJim -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:54:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I think Obama will win reelection, whether I support him or not...




I don't think Obama will even be on the ballot in 2012




RacerJim -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 6:59:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

He has sold out each platform he ran on. He ran for the center as soon as he was elected. The only promise he kept was about the one thing I was against, which was escalating our involvement in Afghanistan

He didn't do effective healthcare reform

He didn't close Guantanamo

Don't ask don't tell is still on the books

Wall Street reform has no teeth

He keeps trying to seem "nonpartisan", which believe it or not, the American people ARE partisan against republicans at this point... he squandered his mandate by kissing republican ass and letting them call the shots

I told myself if he did not get socialized healthcare reform in this country with a public option I wasn't voting for him again... I'm not


What he did accomplish was a beginning and a compromise.

Without the compromise there would be no health care reform and there would be no financial reform.

Guantanamo and being openly gay in the military are issues he has not backed down from.

Sometimes you have to pick your battles and choose when to fight them.

This is July of 2010.

He took office in January of 2009.

Do the math.

I think he has accomplished quite a bit in18 months.







Look at the trend-line of Obama's approval rating from day one through today.

I think it shows he has accomplished quite a bit that an ever-increasing number of "We the people..." don't like.




southernsultry -> RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... (7/22/2010 7:01:24 AM)

smiles, I am an Independent voter like you after being both a Republican and a Democrat. I just vote on the issues now....I am holding out "Hope" that Obama does some things that he promised...only time will tell




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