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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 5:26:07 PM   
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qsm.... said it well for me

As for airing of the dirty laundry, where else should one air something that is bothering them when part of their issue is that part of that laundry is the person they are with....... who else are they expected to turn to.... other than other people in the lifestyle who should understand, but what I see happeneing more often is condem them for being a part of it in the first place..

anytime i have posted it was because i am a bit new.....and have no RL lifestyle folk to turn to.....tell a shrink,watch them take my minor child..... SO,if i need advice i try to keep it as vague as possible,,,,,then clarification comes ,,,,then i have disrespected after i had diarrhea of  the mouth....well you see how it kinda rolls downhill for me...

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This is going to look cruel....

Because when people read some of the private personal shit that gets posted here.....we laugh.

I am not the only one who does it. There have to be many people who laugh right along with me.

Before you post something deeply personal ask yourself, " would I walk into a bar and shout this ?"



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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 5:35:22 PM   
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(lots of times...) HM can be an ass...but he's *my* ass....
 
eta...I have no idea why this is bolded now...I didn't do it...grrrr


Cause when he's an ass he's rather bold about it?

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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 5:37:39 PM   
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Are there personal things that clip could not post on a public forum? Do you have a line?

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People I am not suggesting that there is an answer...I'm asking where your line is and what your reaction is when someone else talking about their personal issues crosses that line.

Ok, I think I have a better handle on what you're asking from this different point of view; what are my limits with someone I know coming here to the message boards and spewing information about me or otherwise embarrassing the heck out of me?
 
This has already happened to me.  I made a thread and a r/t friend of mine answered while she was in sub frenzy over her Master...I got used to it but still hated it that he made her refer to herself as slut with every blessed time she referred to herself.  I had no part in this.  I protested to him about this, cuz I didn't like to have to listen to it.  After a month or two, I was telling her, half joking, that I should suggest to him that he make her refer to herself as cunt, as I detest that word and need to be desensitized to hearing it.   After a while, he relented to third person speech, and just since a day or two ago, allows her to talk normally.  The mindset is embedded, and he is satisfied.
 
What did I do?  For posting without asking me?  Nothing.  I wear the big girl panties and I sucked it up. 
 
It's not her fault how intense she is in frenzy, and in a way it's kinda cute.  I should be so lucky to find somone so crazy about me; her Master is lucky.
 
If a sub of mine came here and needed to act up and deliberately humiliate me, I would suck it up until I found out why.  If I had given him just cause and he felt he had no other recourse, I'd look into it.  If he was going overboard and not addressing issues, but being hateful, I would try to calm him down and then cut him loose.  I can't imagine anyone who is mine ever doing that. 
 
Maybe a newbie I was considering, that's all.  This has happened in my *distant* past, and the acting up was done in the chatroom and not in the message boards.  Some people don an alternate personality as soon as they know they are being considered.  I've been lucky to have this happen before I get very close to them.
 
Long time ago, I had a new friend visit me in my home.  She took hundreds out of my purse, it was my rent and everything.  Years later when I saw her again, I was pleasant and didn't leap across the table and beat her to a bloody pulp. 
 
Why?  This was a very do-able option.  Because in a way that money was a small price to pay to get out of what would have been a very toxic friendship. 

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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 5:38:35 PM   
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Catching up here.  Cynthia, I'm not sure if you were agreeing or disagreeing with Me.  LOL.

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ORIGINAL: laurell3
Are there personal things that clip could not post on a public forum? Do you have a line?

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People I am not suggesting that there is an answer...I'm asking where your line is and what your reaction is when someone else talking about their personal issues crosses that line.

Yes.  There will be no referring to Me as twatwaffle.  J/k.

I do have a line, but it's very difficult where to say that it is without knowing the context.  One of the examples that was given earlier in the thread was ED.  That can be a very delicate subject to approach in a dynamic.  At the same time, it's a medical condition that a male really shouldn't be embarrassed about.  It can be very frustrating to the female and she may need to find people with prior experience in the matter. 

Which leads Me to add that I consider approach.  There's a big difference to Me between "his dick won't get hard" and somebody coming here concerned that "she's not pleasing to him because he doesn't use her sexually".  In the first, it comes across in a negative way.  In the second, it's obviously somebody who is hurting and confused.

I'm probably going to get crucified for this one, but I'm going to put it out there anyway.  Yes.  In most cases, I do think that someone should speak to the person on the other side of the kneel first before coming here.  I think a person owes it to the other person in the dynamic to attempt talking with them before bringing the issue to a place like this.  The longer people have been in the dynamic, the more often I expect they should have good communication going.  If they don't, they might want to look at the bigger problem with that than whatever the surface issue is of the moment.


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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 5:43:27 PM   
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Yes. There will be no referring to Me as twatwaffle. J/k.


LOL!


I don't think you should be crucified for that, the person that is most likely to have the answer to the question about the relationship, is the person in the relationship isn't it?

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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 5:52:27 PM   
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However, I find it sadistically delightful to read when others do. I have zero respect for the parties involved, but it brightens my day none the less.



haha of course, it's like a free soap opera sometimes isn't it?

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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 6:17:19 PM   
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The prime example is the subs that come on here and tell us everything bad about their Dom, everyone responds well god he's a jackass....then they say...wait but, he's not. Of course that's the response they are going to get, because that is the only information they are giving. In the end they run away upset, we know think guy x is a total asshat (and he probably isn't) and hell...how helpful was that to their issue? Was it worth sharing their details?

I see it as very helpful, if not to us...then to them.
 
See it through vanilla eyes.  If a woman is at the end of her rope with her boyfriend, thinks he's a total asshat and wants to leave him...turning to a girlfriend and whining about him makes the friend take her side and verbally attack him...
 
...which does what?
 
...doesn't she always get defensive about her man?
 
...doesn't she suddenly remember all the wonderful things about him she cannot live without?
 
...Her b*tching about him often helps her to get over her problems with him, and to suddenly understand about defending his reputation, and that nobody else in the world understands just how very special he is.  <hurls in private>
 
If both people want to come to a forum and lay the problem down and ask for opinions...it will still only be opinions, and the dominant will either change his plans or won't, and the submissive will either obey or...leave.
 
Long time ago, I had a vanilla boyfriend who didn't want either of us to talk to anyone about anything.  But he was so indiscreet that everyone at work was talking about us.  Sorry, but it was him insisting on sucking on mah titty (yes, we were caught) that caused the gossip to spread like wildfire, and not my one female friend that I talked things over with.  He kept glaring at me and turning up that song called Rumors or something, whenever it came onto the radio. 
 
Yes, I broke up with him later.  He kept asking to marry me but I saw that our entire lives together began and ended in a bedroom.  He had never introduced me to his family, his friends, we had never gone on a date, and he never told me he loved me, but he kept asking me to marry him after I tried to break up with him the first time.  If he had introduced me to friends...friends of his who told me what a pain in the ass I was to him (while he stood there hugging me with one arm), I probably would have married him.  Scratch the probably, and make that an absolutely.
 
That was vanilla though, and has nothing to do with this.  In spite of the handcuffies...
 
Each person has their own limits, and as I see it, the trick is to either find someone with those same ideals or else see if one or both parties can bend.  If not, then it's game over.  As a Domme, yes, I would want my sub come to me first with everything.  It wouldn't be a deal breaker if he didn't, as long as it was in good faith.  I would even send him here to do some reading if he had issues that he could use the help of others in dealing with.  Sometimes just not feeling all alone is a big help.
 
Actually, I would have my guy start a thread right now that would have half of you falling off your chairs snickering over, but he's a workaholic and barely has time for me much less these forums.  It would help him though, and I think I will look things up on Search later on just to see if any male has dared to ever speak of it.  Women, maybe.   He would have to stick directly to the issue and not drag out a blow by blow account of the entire day, lol.
 
laurell...best wishes to you both, whichever Jeff it happens to be.  There seems to be dozens of Jeffs at this site.

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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 6:21:15 PM   
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LadyPact, I was agreeing with you.

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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 6:24:19 PM   
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<Bizarre thing happened.  I was editing on page 2 and blam, it ended up as a new post instead.>

< Message edited by CynthiaWVirginia -- 7/23/2010 6:31:24 PM >

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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 6:33:22 PM   
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that happens when the edit time runs out....but cm can also be odd...last night I had LP's purple in other threads from copying one of her posts....I don't think that should happen...

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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 6:38:52 PM   
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I'm mindful of what I disclose and prefer to address a situation in a general fashion without specific details that could be potentially explosive. While I have a wider a latitude due to non involvement with persons from this site, there's still the modicum of respect and acknowledgment of what's acceptable as it pertains to those I've conversed with in the past. If it's too pointed I won't say it in all honesty.

When involved my directives take precedence and I'm usually very tight lipped. The necessities of conduct becoming and the mental fortitude the fine line provides is what I prefer. My willingness to discuss private matters has changed a great deal. With the exception of a one or two persons I find it better to sift through my debris alone until the answers can be found.

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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 6:41:31 PM   
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My computer might have fallen offline for a moment, with all this bad weather we have been having here in the mountains it's been happening often lately.
 
Maybe my computer talked with CM the wrong way, and that's why the mess up happened.  Now it won't let me go back and edit that post.  It's only 9:30 p.m., oh well, spit happens.
 

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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 6:46:32 PM   
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I have very little shame or guilt. If there's a problem that I think someone else may know about, why not ask? Men get ED. That's a fact. There is nothing shameful about asking about it. Especially if they take the advice offered and get a physical. Wouldn't you rather he had his blood sugar tested and started treatment for diabetes? Or is it better to keep things a deep, dark secret?

There's a saying in AA, "You're only as sick as your secrets". And I believe that. Once you air your dirty laundry, it doesn't smell nearly as bad. And finding out you aren't the only one, and that there are possible solutions is worth momentary embarrassment. If it isn't, then I think you have your priorities screwed up.


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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 6:50:38 PM   
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I AM EVERYWHERE.....  MAHAHAHAHAHA.

With Cynthia's addition, I'm reminded of a thread not too long back.  Gal comes on the boards pretty much in drama mode because Master wants to make her a prostitute.  The opening goes on about how she thinks that if she doesn't obey, she will lose him, and what kind of person makes another person do something like that.  Help, oh help, please, please.

Turns out on page two, the guy wasn't such a dick as she had made him look like.  The idea was something she had told him at one point really turned her on.  She hadn't bothered to tell him the part about how she had second thoughts.  Of course, this doesn't change the fact that some people are only going to read the drama laden original. 

I suppose in thinking about it, I do somewhat expect people to act like grown-ups.  Something like the above is completely unacceptable.  It is an adult site and you really are supposed to act like one, regardless if it's your first day in the lifestyle or you've been doing it for decades.


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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 6:54:41 PM   
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And yet, if people don't want to act like grownups, or whatever you consider that behaviour to look like, you can't do a thing about it except whine.
I don't think anyone cares what you want them to behave like, except maybe your play partner.


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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 7:01:34 PM   
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I AM EVERYWHERE.....  MAHAHAHAHAHA.

I'm reminded of a thread not too long back.  Gal comes on the boards pretty much in drama mode because Master wants to make her a prostitute.  The opening goes on about how she thinks that if she doesn't obey, she will lose him, and what kind of person makes another person do something like that.  Help, oh help, please, please.


Aaaaaaah, I misssssed that one, lol.  I have to find it, have to read it.  Walmart first. 
 
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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 7:21:16 PM   
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And yet, if people don't want to act like grownups, or whatever you consider that behaviour to look like, you can't do a thing about it except whine.
I don't think anyone cares what you want them to behave like, except maybe your play partner.


I can't speak for laurell, but I think that's kind of the point.  Looking at the behavior on a forum such as this with the person that you are dealing with in an intimate way.  It's all too easy to cry foul in a situation such as this about how terrible that person is when the subject is an emotional one.  I believe she's asking how far is too far when coming here.

Here's a nice little wrench to throw into the discussion.  I wonder if people have different standards depending on if it is the M or the s type bringing the situation? 


ETA, It may be helpful for the distinction to be made between whining and discussing a topic by giving an opinion.  Perhaps that is a subject for another thread.


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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 7:29:45 PM   
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laurel, i feel like you do...i shudder a bit when someone says something extremely personal about their significant other....but that is just me....to ask for advice about matters, to ask for experienced ones to share their stories...that is fine....but i think it is horribly disrespectful to speak badly about your Owner..whether online or in a public arena....it reflects poorly on both you and your Owner....imho

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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 7:40:25 PM   
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I'm probably going to get crucified for this one, but I'm going to put it out there anyway.  Yes.  In most cases, I do think that someone should speak to the person on the other side of the kneel first before coming here.  I think a person owes it to the other person in the dynamic to attempt talking with them before bringing the issue to a place like this.  The longer people have been in the dynamic, the more often I expect they should have good communication going.  If they don't, they might want to look at the bigger problem with that than whatever the surface issue is of the moment.



I don't know why anyone would crucify you for that, because that one paragraph nails the whole issue. Whenever I see one of those threads, my first thought is always pretty much that very thing. The simple fact that they're posting all that shit here speaks volumes to me about what the root problem probably is. Every big problem in a relationship starts out as a small problem. The best way to keep a small problem from becoming a big problem is to communicate with your partner while it's still small, and you just know that many - if not most - of the big problems we see here represent missed opportunities to solve them when they were little 'uns.


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RE: Publicly airing your dirty laundry - 7/23/2010 7:51:16 PM   
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Here's a nice little wrench to throw into the discussion.  I wonder if people have different standards depending on if it is the M or the s type bringing the situation? 


LadyPact,

This probably won't be the popular opinion, but I think venues like these can become a crutch and a diversion from communication and personal responsibility. I'm always left to wonder what the individual would do if this wasn't an option. Would they work through their issues? Realize they made a crappy decision in their partner selection? Or find another outlet for validation? While I don't deny there have been notable topics that we each contribute to and learn from. I can't ignore the proliferation of the other that lead me to question who's actually in charge. And that's based on the assumption that he's aware she's here and I don't believe that's always the case.

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