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RE: bloody hell - 8/9/2010 1:03:59 PM

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i cannot believe any sane woman would respond to him, even if she does have this kink. the whole profile was wrong on every single level.

Now isn't it better then that he isn't hiding behind a kinder gentler facade, bit is out in the open for all to see.

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whatever the man does in his free time is entirely his affair but i personally have no wish to switch my computer on and be faced with an artists depiction dated around the time of the slave trade, of a young woman being hung from a tree, exaserbated by a choice of words and an attitude that reeked of racism and racial violence.

Tough...when you go online you no longer have control over what turns up on your screen, and I find it offensive that you would try to dictate what others can put up on their profiles....maybe you should be banned to spare my sensibilities.

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RE: bloody hell - 8/9/2010 1:16:52 PM

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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i cannot believe any sane woman would respond to him, even if she does have this kink. the whole profile was wrong on every single level.
Now isn't it better then that he isn't hiding behind a kinder gentler facade, bit is out in the open for all to see.

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whatever the man does in his free time is entirely his affair but i personally have no wish to switch my computer on and be faced with an artists depiction dated around the time of the slave trade, of a young woman being hung from a tree, exaserbated by a choice of words and an attitude that reeked of racism and racial violence.
Tough...when you go online you no longer have control over what turns up on your screen, and I find it offensive that you would try to dictate what others can put up on their profiles....maybe you should be banned to spare my sensibilities.

tough, when you go online you no longer have control over what turns up on youre screen

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RE: bloody hell - 8/9/2010 1:41:59 PM

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I've wanted to report a seriously "off kilter" (read : seriously fucked up) profile and yes like you found out there was no report button to report the profile it's self.

I think this IS a matter that needs to be addressed by the owner/management.

yes i agree - morally and ethically dodgy material should have a fast track button. the offensiveness of this profile is beyond BDSM to be honest. its morally and ethically appalling.

i have to add his profile pic is of a black female slave hanging from a tree.

But morally and ethically by what standard? There are lots of things on here that someone is gonna find offensive.

I knew a young black lady who in her own words wanted to be a "plantation nigger". A simulated lynching and rape, she would have creamed her pants. While I would what type of individual would of post that type of picture, she would probably say hello.

There is a young lady in our area now who had pictures posted that depict nuns on a cross, crosses inserted in various openings, you get the picture. I am sure there people who are just as offended.

I don't get to worked up over what I see in profiles. I think a lot of people use the profile to voice fantasies.

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RE: bloody hell - 8/9/2010 2:08:23 PM

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tough, when you go online you no longer have control over what turns up on youre screen

Perhaps you now see the ridiculousness of your outrage

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RE: bloody hell - 8/9/2010 3:02:32 PM

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tough, when you go online you no longer have control over what turns up on youre screen
Perhaps you now see the ridiculousness of your outrage

just because this is BDSM doesnt mean that we should forget to respect the past and the dead, to me that is condoning what happened, degrading those lives even more than they already were. thats my feeling on it and i cant budge from it, its how i feel. the picture he used was from that time, im sure if you saw it youd recognise it.

maybe it is a kink for some and yes i accept that 'outing' a kink as wrong is well, wrong. but i still feel that his choice of picture and the words he used were condoning and degrading and could have been done with a greater maturity and sensibility for what happened in the past.

its how i feel and i know how all of that sounds but i do believe in respecting the dead and this profile really sickened me.

he's welcome to his kink if there are others who share it, even better.

but you know, it isnt just me. when mod21 wrote and asked me for the guys name i answered by trying to type ****er and a little box came up and told me i couldnt use that word via cmail. certain things remain taboo because its right to show that level of respect and consideration.

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RE: bloody hell - 8/9/2010 3:20:01 PM

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You're welcome to find it abhorrent, but what gets me is you felt the need to mount a little crusade to get the profile removed...reporting it and then coming on here to garner support....censorship bugs me regardless of how pure its motivation might be.

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RE: bloody hell - 8/9/2010 3:49:30 PM

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You're welcome to find it abhorrent, but what gets me is you felt the need to mount a little crusade to get the profile removed...reporting it and then coming on here to garner support....censorship bugs me regardless of how pure its motivation might be.

no that wasnt why i did it. i reported the profile and came here to share what id seen and felt. i had no idea that Mod21 would respond. on the report option it tells you that itll take more than one complaint for the Mods to check it out, i assumed it would all go through the usual channels and they'd decide if it was something to deal with or not

it certainly wasnt a crusade and i was surprised to find a cmail from Mod21 who just asked me for the name of the man whod posted a pic of a young woman hanging.

when DS wrote and said what he did about it being a kink i accepted his word on it. it didnt change how i felt about the content of what id seen, but i then began to at least see that it was a kink, recognised and accepted by some.

it was just a knee jerk - bloody hell! - reaction, hence the title

if was being seriously vitriolic i would have backpaged to his profile noted his name and outed him - TOS or no TOS, that wasnt what this was about at all.

< Message edited by lally2 -- 8/9/2010 4:02:17 PM >

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RE: bloody hell - 8/9/2010 5:14:01 PM

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Uh-huh

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RE: bloody hell - 8/9/2010 5:23:27 PM

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certain things remain taboo because its right to show that level of respect and consideration.

And whose sensibilities get to make that judgement?? And are you certain that everything you engage in is respectful? These are some things to consider. Not everyone operates under the same moral code that you do. There have to be laws governing society, but when you start stepping on people who are engaging in mutually consented activities, the line tends to get blurred.

I would not report a profile because someone's kink is not my kink.

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RE: bloody hell - 8/9/2010 5:23:28 PM

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I was wondering, do you have an issue with the opposite form of race play? Namely a white woman who objectifies black men? It is rather common for white women to seek BBC, and my inbox has been flooded by BBC dominants that want a white sub to enslave and turn the tables on her...

The irony for me is that I think how degrading it is to black men to be reduced to their dick and how degrading it is for white women to use race as an instrument of humiliation. It squicks me out to be frank with you. I date people, not ethnicities.

Now these ethnic fetishes are fairly common... but I do wonder if it has the same emotional impact when the genders are switched.

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RE: bloody hell - 8/10/2010 3:54:23 AM

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its nothing to do with ethnicity - and you seem to be assuming that because i was repulsed by this insensitive profile i go around making value judgements all over the place. i dont.

ill bet you money that if the man in that profile wrote a thread and described in the same detail what he wanted and how he wanted it his thread would be pulled and any and all responses would have been less than welcoming.

katylied - you pulled a quote out of one of my posts that was specifically related to the fact that ****er is not a word that can be used on cmail. not my doing, someone in admin did that. on the strength of that i pointed out that there are levels of acceptibility in our society, the attitude attached to that word is reviled and so it should be.

im not stomping on the kink, im commenting on the lack of sensitivity, lack of maturity, lack of respect for something that happened in the past to a nation of people.

and that really is all im going to say on this. its how i feel and has nothing to do with BDSM at all or the kink attached to it.

the same man could have posted a far less offensive picture. the words he chose could have been written to express the same needs but without the racial violence intentionally put there. none of you, other than myotherself saw this profile and her response was the same as mine - YUKK.

kink this kink that - sometimes, just sometimes our beloved free thinking kinky world plays host to some pretty disturbed and fucked up people.

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RE: bloody hell - 8/10/2010 3:58:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Uh-huh

is that all you have? - thats a bit dissappointing.

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RE: bloody hell - 8/10/2010 5:00:13 AM

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so im curious now - are some of you suggesting that its ok to be a racist pig if its done on a BDSM site. have we been given special priviledges here are we really that special.

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RE: bloody hell - 8/10/2010 5:07:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: lally2

so im curious now - are some of you suggesting that its ok to be a racist pig if its done on a BDSM site. have we been given special priviledges here are we really that special.

That reminds me of a while back when some really low bigotry and racism kept surfacing thinly disguised in the Humor section and the Mods did nothing about it.

As if the environment dictated the degree of obscenity. Some things are absolute.

This site has never had strong antiracism credentials in my opinion.

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RE: bloody hell - 8/10/2010 5:25:38 AM

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Look Lally I am on your side.

It is unrealistic to expect zero moderation.
Even on the internet this is a bullshit concept!
This may be a privately owned site but still it HAS to adhere the the laws laid down by the federal government of the country the site is registered in.
Read : the owners of the site are Legally Responsible of the content of the site....as in every single post from every single poster on this site. (hence the site moderation that stops the owner from being legally liable).

Breaches of the federal laws leaves the site's owners open to prosecution, lengthy court battles, fines, most certainly the destruction of the site and possible jail time.
The only way the ownership could have side stepped the "free speech" issue was to offer a zero moderation policy from the get go..which, plainly is NOT the case here.
Even then there are grey areas that would still bring the site under extreme prejudice.

Your illusion and haughty ideals of "free speech" on the net is just that...an illusion.

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RE: bloody hell - 8/10/2010 5:37:33 AM

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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

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ORIGINAL: lally2

so im curious now - are some of you suggesting that its ok to be a racist pig if its done on a BDSM site. have we been given special priviledges here are we really that special.

That reminds me of a while back when some really low bigotry and racism kept surfacing thinly disguised in the Humor section and the Mods did nothing about it.

As if the environment dictated the degree of obscenity. Some things are absolute.

This site has never had strong antiracism credentials in my opinion.

yes and thats all ive been trying to say. thanks. x

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RE: bloody hell - 8/10/2010 5:45:49 AM

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just to let you know Mod21 is on it.

TY lally the people on CM will sleep easier knowing this. Seriously you have too much free time

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RE: bloody hell - 8/10/2010 5:48:59 AM

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im not stomping on the kink, im commenting on the lack of sensitivity, lack of maturity, lack of respect for something that happened in the past to a nation of people.

if Lally is talking about the profile picture i am thinking of, she is right to object.

It was a fuzzy, older black and white photo of a black female who was probably the victim of lynching. A photo of a murder victim has no place on a profile, in my opinion.

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RE: bloody hell - 8/10/2010 6:00:48 AM

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Rouge mods undermine a sites viability.
They put personal feelings ahead of the owners legal obligations.

The cult of personality should never leave a site owner legally bare-arsed.
TOS is a carefully worded legal document that gives members clear guide lines as to the conduct and the content expected from membership according to federal law!
Mods are there to police TOS. and cover the arse of the owner.

If they fuck up the owner has his arse in a vice and the site dies.

Simple.

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RE: bloody hell - 8/10/2010 6:16:53 AM

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Its amazing I mean if only the other side had a button that would keep a profile one didnt agree with from comming up when they log on, Hmm what would they call such a button, perhaps, Disappear profile? No that wouldnt do, Oh thats right a Hide button. Now if only the site had one of those buttons...

Sorry for the snark but seriously your reported it, hide the profile and move on, there are a thousand things in the world i find offensive, i still see profiles with it as a kink, and people are into such a thing. People come to this site with their wants and needs and create a profile to fulfill it. Its not your place or my place to judge what is right for someone to enjoy and whats not. Its for the moderators and those who look at the reports.

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