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RE: When the un-knowing partner finds out... - 9/8/2010 1:14:44 PM   
hertz


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The attack was against Laurell because of who her friends were.

You then deleted the post because standing behind your words is something you seem to find unnecessary


I asked two questions, and you have answered only one of them. Would you like to go for the other question?

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I saw the post.


If you saw the post, laurell, then you will have no problem in explaining how it was an attack. Would you like to explain?

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Your postings are both lacking in intelligence and intergrity


They possess spelling though, which has to be a plus point.

What is really funny is the way you and Jeffffffff are openly engaging in attacks on me, whilst continuing to lie and accuse me of exactly the offence you are guilty of. Where I come from, we call that hypocrisy. You could look it up, if you like. I take it Jefffff is still nursing considerable butt-hurt from being challenged in the Creative Writing thread?





< Message edited by hertz -- 9/8/2010 1:15:04 PM >

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RE: When the un-knowing partner finds out... - 9/8/2010 1:23:20 PM   
Jeffff


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Status: offline 		Challenged? I was not challenged, I was moderated..lol

I was moderated for derailing the thread, not for opinions expressed.

Your posts in this thread are those of a silly man trying desperately to appear thoughtful.

It has not worked.

Note that I let this post stand and have not edited it.

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RE: When the un-knowing partner finds out... - 9/8/2010 1:35:33 PM   
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Hertz:  you say your relationship is damaged in a very obvious way, but that it is a very stable relationship.  That seems to be a contradiction to me


I don't know about you, but 20 years, with continual planning for our future together is stable in my book. Again, I think one of the problems here is perception. I don't believe relationships just happen, and I don't believe they survive without being nurtured. Relationships often require effort, they often require negotiation and sometimes they involve other qualities as well. We're not a sinking ship. I can't see any reason why we shouldn't grow old and die together.

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I wind up with the sense that good, professional help may help you ferret out all the elements of your situation.
I don't. My partner is not interested in ferreting out anything at this point. I can respect that. But I accept your point that some people might choose a different path. We have a relationship with a fault or two, and we are working around that as best we can. Maybe others would choose to try and fix the damage - that's up to them.

The relationship you describe with the woman with MS sounds absolutely fine to me. They came up with the best solution available to them given the resources they had, and it sounds as if the open communication they were able to make use of was never going to be a threat to the relationship. I have no problem with it. It sounds like they ended up in a Poly relationship that worked for everyone. Good on them.



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RE: When the un-knowing partner finds out... - 9/8/2010 1:39:31 PM   
hertz


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EDIT: Note that I have edited this post.


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RE: When the un-knowing partner finds out... - 9/8/2010 1:40:09 PM   
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You're so cute!

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RE: When the un-knowing partner finds out... - 9/8/2010 3:28:52 PM   
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Edited: cause I have a major after thoughts. If there was a party and one of the subs there was in a relationship, and was there without his partner (g/f or wife) I wouldn't be part of the scene, because I wouldn't feel right. For me to be part of the scene from start to finish it has to be as morally correct as it possibly can be. It's a hard enough lifestyle without ruining marriages and relationships.

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RE: When the un-knowing partner finds out... - 9/9/2010 1:51:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think Jef with four fs and laurell the third sould find better things to do so early in their blossoming romance than picking on people who's romances obviously are not blossoming so much anymore
it seems to me if they spend their time picking on people trying to cope with the withering rather than enjoying their own flowers they will be coping with some root rot pretty soon too.

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RE: When the un-knowing partner finds out... - 9/9/2010 4:43:05 AM   
Jeffff


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Status: offline 		I think you are full of shit. This has nothing to do with my relationship, except that possibly she and I are in agreement on this and many other things. I think that if your relationship withers there are many options available to you.

I think that lying and cheating are the least honorable of those choices. I do not happen to believe that no one does it. I am not that naive. Cheating is is easier than the other choices, at least until you get caught.

Cheat if you want, lie if you want. DO whatever you want. Just don't try and justify it as anything more than selfish.



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RE: When the un-knowing partner finds out... - 9/9/2010 5:02:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dear hertz and jeffff GET A ROOM!!

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RE: When the un-knowing partner finds out... - 9/9/2010 6:47:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, all I can say is that I felt terrible for my actions and participation in lying to another person, and didn't want to be a part of it anymore.

Having a bad marriage and truly being on the way out is one thing, and people's emotions being as complex as they are, mistakes can be made.  But when there are too many excuses for staying, and no action is happening on leaving, that's a clear sign that there's more to it, and it's time to go.

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RE: When the un-knowing partner finds out... - 9/9/2010 11:26:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ranja

I think Jef with four fs and laurell the third sould find better things to do so early in their blossoming romance than picking on people who's romances obviously are not blossoming so much anymore
it seems to me if they spend their time picking on people trying to cope with the withering rather than enjoying their own flowers they will be coping with some root rot pretty soon too.



I think it's a forum and we're here to express our opinions on the topic, which I have done. I think your comments on our relationship are no more appropriate than hertz' were before they were edited. You seem to want to find some clever and novel way to post seeming insight that is just poorly veiled garbage. The topic is cheating. Hertz is cheating. That's my opinion. You both can keep launching inappropriate and completely unfounded personal attacks at Jeff and I, it's not going to change that fact.

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RE: When the un-knowing partner finds out... - 9/9/2010 1:20:22 PM   
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You both can keep launching inappropriate and completely unfounded personal attacks at Jeff and I.


Quoted for Irony. And that's it - I'm out of this thread.

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RE: When the un-knowing partner finds out... - 9/9/2010 5:57:05 PM   
laurell3


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Status: offline 		The difference of course being that you volunteered the information and despite the fact that you are not the OP, you took the opportunity to launch tactless missives at anyone that commented. However, you have zero information on me or my relationship, friends or anything else to base your comments on. Heat, kitchen and all that jazz.

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RE: When the un-knowing partner finds out... - 9/9/2010 6:08:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		laurell I love you and I will be here in case it doesnt work out with Jeffff

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RE: When the un-knowing partner finds out... - 9/9/2010 6:27:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: laurell3
Heat, kitchen and all that jazz.

Nice.
Music, cooking, fireplace.
Wait, I read it backwards.

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RE: When the un-knowing partner finds out... - 9/9/2010 6:59:32 PM   
laurell3


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ORIGINAL: divi

laurell I love you and I will be here in case it doesnt work out with Jeffff


Sweet I get insulted and then hit on by all the hot women in this thread! Thanks hertz!

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