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GotSteel -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 7:34:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: myotherself
And to be honest, the thought of using a dildo or strap-on with my dominant would have me running away, screaming!

Strap-ons also come in submissive: http://www.stockroom.com/j225.htm 




Twoshoes -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 7:37:39 AM)

Thank you for your honesty, all_those_who_posted.

Honesty - perhaps the only good thing about this thread.




SubPet715 -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 7:40:19 AM)

My former domme was bisexual and it didn't bother me in the least, it was actually pretty interesting. We had a casual relationship in which she was also my friend so we would do things together and she would point out women to me all the time.

It made little difference to me that she was bisexual, a person isn't their sexual preference.




GotSteel -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 7:40:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I think that female bisexual Dominants are more "socially acceptable" than male.

that is the result of my totally unscientific (some would say bullshit) sampling.

But, if you look at it, I think that bi male subs are less accepted than bi female subs also.  Guys just cant win. LOL


Reading this made me recall a study that found same sex behaviors between women to be more socially acceptable than they are between men. I didn't manage to find that study again but tracked this down:

"The study, published in the Canadian Journal of Human Sexuality, found that society accords men less “sexual latitude” than women, deeming it abnormal for a man to be disinterested in sex, to engage in homosexual fantasy, and to engage in submissive sexual acts."
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1375083#ixzz0yr1bVxvX"




angelikaJ -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 8:12:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

We're all entitled to whatever standards and requirements we like in another person, I am not going to sneer at anyone for wanting what they want.

I am sad, though, when I see such incredible vehemence that HE MUST NOT BE>>>> whatever. Not ever? So, if he let some guy blow him while he was drunk, he's not worthy anymore? If he likes it up the ass, no way? Really? Fine. I've heard this so often over the years, that he will only be the domly dom if he meets the woman's personal standard of what a dom is. Heaven forfend if he has some silly adventures from band camp, because he sure as hell will have to carry them to his grave.

What I would like to know is this: in this "lifestyle", which is based on trust and transparency, WHAT ELSE DOES HE HAVE TO HIDE? What do YOU have to hide from him, so that YOU can stay worthy, and his fantasy sub?

Of course you are accepting him for what he IS, right? You wouldn't have chosen him otherwise? And he is going to stay EXACTLY THE SAME. And so are you.







Well, I agree with this especially since when our sexual selves are developing, experimentation happens. Does a "bisexual act" when one is young define one as a bisexual, if the conclusion was: "Nope, that wasn't for me"?

I remember when I was in the 6th grade and Elton John announced he was bisexual. And all of a sudden all these kids who were grooving on his music the day before were disgusted today.
It made no sense to me. He was the exact same guy, it was the same music.

What surprises me isn't so much the preferences people state but that they are stating them not just with certainty, but with anger.

Anger at a what if... .

Why is that?




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 8:41:53 AM)

Thank you, Angelika, that is where I am coming from. I absolutely believe that we should be able to want what we want. It's when it's so utterly etched in stone, with NO deviations allowed EVER, that I just boggle. What we do in bed is to ME, the most trivial aspect of what we do... how can one incident make someone utterly unworthy, when UP TO THAT POINT, they were ideal? We're not talking about someone hiding a felony here.

It's a world of folks. It's good to learn these kinds of things about each other, too.





LadyPact -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 8:48:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
Reading this made me recall a study that found same sex behaviors between women to be more socially acceptable than they are between men. I didn't manage to find that study again but tracked this down:

"The study, published in the Canadian Journal of Human Sexuality, found that society accords men less “sexual latitude” than women, deeming it abnormal for a man to be disinterested in sex, to engage in homosexual fantasy, and to engage in submissive sexual acts."
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1375083#ixzz0yr1bVxvX"

If you should happen to come across the original study that you were looking for, I would certainly be interested in reading it.




chiaThePet -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 8:50:01 AM)


The views on Bisexual Dominants appear to be going both ways.

What?

chia* (the pet)





GotSteel -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 10:01:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ
Well, I agree with this especially since when our sexual selves are developing, experimentation happens. Does a "bisexual act" when one is young define one as a bisexual, if the conclusion was: "Nope, that wasn't for me"?

Apperently that doesn't work quite the same way for men and women...

"...gay men overwhelmingly become sexually aroused by images of men and heterosexual men by images of women. In other words, men's sexual arousal patterns seem obvious. But a new Northwestern University study boosts the relatively limited research on women's sexuality with a surprisingly different finding regarding women's sexual arousal.
In contrast to men, both heterosexual and lesbian women tend to become sexually aroused by both male and female erotica, and, thus, have a bisexual arousal pattern." http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030613075252.htm




Wolf2Bear -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 12:26:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ


What surprises me isn't so much the preferences people state but that they are stating them not just with certainty, but with anger.

Anger at a what if... .

Why is that?


Agreed. I also have to seriously wonder if the anger partially stems from many people not fully understanding how a man can be attracted and aroused by another male? Often people resort to frustration and/or anger when they are unable to understand something which falls out of their own concepts they found safe and outside of their comfort zone.
I do find it quite interesting, while following all the posts, that many seem to believe that human sexuality is cut and dried and it follows a set pattern, yet we all know that human sexuality does not. I understand how many are wired to want their partners to be fully heterosexual yet some of the reasoning given doesn't just quite justify their actions stated. Sadly that is a a problem interpreting only the written word and not being able to see and hear the emotional reactions of the people.




LadyNTrainer -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 12:35:50 PM)

Mmm, bisexual men are *hawt* I'll take two, please. [:D]




sweetsub1957 -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 12:36:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ
What surprises me isn't so much the preferences people state but that they are stating them not just with certainty, but with anger.

Anger at a what if... .

Why is that?

I agree. I don't see anything to be angry about........it's just a preference. People could actually......OMG......agree to disagree. Wow. What a concept. As for me, I actually feel guilty about not grooving on the idea of a bisexual Dom. I must be weird.

~sweetsub~




Aileen1968 -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 3:33:36 PM)

Any anger I may have shown was not because of my viewpoint, but because I was accused of being shallow.
I think I've been on this site long enough to have a track record of tolerance of other people's kinks and preferences.
I never said that my opinion was the last word on the subject. Anything I write is based on me and my experience.
It's my point of view. I don't try to convince others that they should think like I do or live their lives like I do.
A question was asked and I answered it. It was that simple.
Jaz then decided that, because I didn't think like she did, that I therefore was a sad and shallow person.
That's what made me angry. She was just as intolerant as what she was accusing me of.

That's more words than I tend to use all week on this site.
I'm done with this thread. Have a nice night people.





mnottertail -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 3:35:22 PM)

Shorey said you couldn't gulp it up the browneye as deep as he'd like, and if that ain't shallow..........dunno what is, kid. 




VaguelyCurious -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 4:18:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer

Mmm, bisexual men are *hawt* I'll take two, please. [:D]

Which would mean you'd end up with four, right?

ArithmeticGoddess!VC [8D][8D]




Twoshoes -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 4:23:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer
Mmm, bisexual men are *hawt* I'll take two, please. [:D]

Which would mean you'd end up with four, right?

ArithmeticGoddess!VC [8D][8D]


More like WishfulThinkingVC.

Edit: I take that back. IT MAY HAPPEN.




SorceressJ -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 4:23:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer

Mmm, bisexual men are *hawt*.


This, or those who are at least comfortable enough with themselves to admit that they find other males attractive, or that maybe, someday.. yes, there's just something about it *shiver*, but that state of being is not a requirement. Just the thought of Him briefly bobbing on the knob of a toy He was about to use on me was enough to send me through the roof.. *sproingggg*




VaguelyCurious -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 4:45:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Twoshoes

quote:

ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer
Mmm, bisexual men are *hawt* I'll take two, please. [:D]

Which would mean you'd end up with four, right?

ArithmeticGoddess!VC [8D][8D]


More like WishfulThinkingVC.

Edit: I take that back. IT MAY HAPPEN.

LNT has two bisexual male partners. If she took another two she would have four. That's not wishful thinking, that's basic arithmetic.




Twoshoes -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 5:17:15 PM)

(Thank you for the clarification.)

Edit: Nm, I was blatantly hijacking this thread.

Edit 2: I'm realizing this issue may be more serious than that one time where I had decided I'm no longer interested in any females shorter than 6 feet tall. That only lasted about an hour.




Aynne88 -> RE: Bisexual Dominants (9/7/2010 5:50:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Wolf2Bear

quote:

ORIGINAL: angelikaJ


What surprises me isn't so much the preferences people state but that they are stating them not just with certainty, but with anger.

Anger at a what if... .

Why is that?


Agreed. I also have to seriously wonder if the anger partially stems from many people not fully understanding how a man can be attracted and aroused by another male? Often people resort to frustration and/or anger when they are unable to understand something which falls out of their own concepts they found safe and outside of their comfort zone.
I do find it quite interesting, while following all the posts, that many seem to believe that human sexuality is cut and dried and it follows a set pattern, yet we all know that human sexuality does not. I understand how many are wired to want their partners to be fully heterosexual yet some of the reasoning given doesn't just quite justify their actions stated. Sadly that is a a problem interpreting only the written word and not being able to see and hear the emotional reactions of the people.



Wolf, maybe the anger as you percieve it only stems from frustration that some people can't or won't understand that some people are *NOT* bisexual and some men don't want to fuck other men, and I am a tad bit exhausted trying to explain that. I don't have a safe comfort zone, I have been in every sexual situation imaginable and had straight, gay and bisexual sex. Jesus christ people, all I am trying to simply say is at this point in my life I only want a straight man, and one that has always been straight and finds only women sexually compatible. I am not some hick from Podunk honey, I lived in the city for years, I have done all I need to do, and I don't get why some of you guys need to make me (or others) feel like we are less sophisticated or less sexually knowledgable for not wanting a guy that has fucked or blown or been blown or wanted to blow a dude. What doesn't resonate here?

Yes I know I sound bitchy. S'okay, I am bitchy. Seriously, I don't care. Please respect that some people are just simply straight. Not everyone is hiding a closeted desire to be bisexual, and not every woman is some idiot pretending that her man is only into women when he really harbors a deep desire  to be with another man. That could also be construed as gay or bi men being afraid that there way isn't always universally accepted.

I hate the whole attitude that peope that don't rock the sexually open boat are ignorant or afraid. I am sure that is not what you meant to portray. Right?  




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