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ORIGINAL: rednicky

I hope this doesn't put too many people off. Especially women. I've always been curious about victimization. I don't know why though. but when I hear stories about men groping unsuspecting women on trains and blackmail in the work place and even being watched/followed by a guy who just wants to talk, my tummy flips a bit. For a guy to want you so much that he resorts to stalking, molesting, or blackmail is interesting. And I especially love what some men do when they get jealous. Keep in mind, I don't actually 'want' a guy like this. But to drive a men, who are all about pride, to such lengths must mean there is something about you that is especially tempting. At least, that's how I see it in my fruity little mind. I've never had the courage to dress a certain way (short shorts, spaghetti straps, and flip flops...something that says I'm not trying to look hot but I'm still hot), but I've wanted to. Just so that I could see if I could be made a 'victim'. Maybe someone will rub my ass on the metro or whisper dirty things in my ear at the cross walk.

I don't mean those fake, arranged encounters where you ask someone ahead of time to do these things to you. I mean for it to really happen. But maybe this happens rarely and the stories about it happening are really not something that happen everyday. Anyways, is there a name for this? Is it a common fantasy? Whether you're into it or not, has anything ever happened to you where some guy has done something completely inappropriate and unexpected after seeing you or working along side you?

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ORIGINAL: Zevar
Are you actually in a realistic manner wanting a total stranger to make you his victim of a sexual assault or other sexually victimized crimes

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ORIGINAL: Zevar

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ORIGINAL: rednicky

I hope this doesn't put too many people off. Especially women. I've always been curious about victimization. I don't know why though. but when I hear stories about men groping unsuspecting women on trains and blackmail in the work place and even being watched/followed by a guy who just wants to talk, my tummy flips a bit. For a guy to want you so much that he resorts to stalking, molesting, or blackmail is interesting. And I especially love what some men do when they get jealous. Keep in mind, I don't actually 'want' a guy like this. But to drive a men, who are all about pride, to such lengths must mean there is something about you that is especially tempting. At least, that's how I see it in my fruity little mind. I've never had the courage to dress a certain way (short shorts, spaghetti straps, and flip flops...something that says I'm not trying to look hot but I'm still hot), but I've wanted to. Just so that I could see if I could be made a 'victim'. Maybe someone will rub my ass on the metro or whisper dirty things in my ear at the cross walk.

I don't mean those fake, arranged encounters where you ask someone ahead of time to do these things to you. I mean for it to really happen. But maybe this happens rarely and the stories about it happening are really not something that happen everyday. Anyways, is there a name for this? Is it a common fantasy? Whether you're into it or not, has anything ever happened to you where some guy has done something completely inappropriate and unexpected after seeing you or working along side you?

Are you actually in a realistic manner wanting a total stranger to make you his victim of a sexual assault or other sexually victimized crimes? If so read the following:

Consider for a moment the possible outcome of this sort of scenario. Perpetrators do not see what they do as a fantasy. Instead they see it as their right of power and control over their victims thus do not think twice about how brutal they become when perpetrating their sexual crimes. The psychological mindset of a stalker is extremely dangerous. As is the psychological mindset of anyone who would sexually assault a female that is a stranger or otherwise known.

The mindset you describe of your own does not sound as though the entire outcome of such a crime being perpetrated on your person has been thoroughly considered. Fantasy is one thing. However when fantasy crosses the lines of reality with a total stranger who does what he does for reasons that are inclined toward sexually violent crimes against women then we are talking a whole other parameter.

Do not deceive yourself. NEVER would you be able to intice a man who is capable of sexual crimes as you spoke of. YOU would be his VICTIM. Don't get tricked into thinking you would have any form of personal power over a man capable of such a sexual crime. NO! He would at ALL times control you even unto death in some cases. This is NOTHING to play with. In almost all cases this sort of violence against women not only violates the person of a woman but maims the soul of a woman with imprints that are irreversible and must be lived with her entire life. Why would you subject yourself to such a violent crime as this?

In closing I STRONGLY urge you to re-consider & never allow yourself to become a real VICTIM of a sexually perpetrated crime as you spoke of, aye!

Is there a name for this? Yes, VAWA = Violence Against Women Act

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=109_cong_bills&docid=f:h3402enr.txt.pdf

http://www.ovw.usdoj.gov/regulations.htm


Take good care of YOU, seriously!

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ORIGINAL: rednicky

I'm sorry I offended you. I knew it'd be a topic some wouldn't find very popular. But don't you go judging me because of my fantasies. Yes, somethings happened to you that you didn't want to happen to you. It's sad and downright disturbing. But this is 'my' kink. If I had been kidnapped and tied up in someone's basement for an extended period of time in my life, I wouldn't spot a bondage thread about someone who actually wants to be taken and tied and tell them "How dare you talk about bondage when I had to deal with a non-consensual experience for X amount of time. Shame on you." The people on this site might burn me at the stake for actually saying all of this to a true victim but, whether you're into it or not, you should respect my kinks. The best thing you could have done after reading this thread was just click the away button.

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I said I didn't actually want a man like this. It was a thought. And I wanted to know if this was a popular fetish, if it had a name, etc...

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ORIGINAL: junecleaver

I think the fanatsy is hot, but it is a fantasy and as such doesn't have to be logical.  Many of the things you mention like the way you dress or being the one in control in the situation aren't true.  As other posters have mentioned, dress doesn't have anything to do with rape and you would be out of control in the situation.  Still, I understand where you are coming from. 

Maybe I'm just a slut but it does boost my ego to hear catcalls or see people leering at me *when* I feel safe.  Someone saying something dirty to you or getting handsy with you in a crowded club with your girlfriends and in a dark alley will bring about different feelings.  Actually, I have had my ass grabbed in an extremely crowded club, found it erotic, and then went to make out with my then boyfriend.  Obviously, if it had been anything other than a grope or I had been alone (BF was very protective), it would have elicited a much different reaction.

Last time I went dancing with my best friend, we were asked, 'Do you want some big black dick?' Our response...laughing hysterically and turning away.  Again, if it had been a group of guys approaching our cars....completely different reaction.

Hope that makes sense.

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But to drive a men, who are all about pride, to such lengths must mean there is something about you that is especially tempting.

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ORIGINAL: lizi

I think it's one of those things that sounds better as a fantasy- real life, not so much. I've been very lucky and not had anything horrific happen to me in a violent way from a man but I've had a guy rub and grind his penis onto my butt while we were riding a bus. It was demeaning and yucky, not hot in the least. The bus was crowded, I couldn't get away, and I felt cowed and didn't make a scene (scenes are hard for me to do, as is asking for help). I didn't feel special at all that I was his chosen one, in fact I wondered what I could do in the future so it would never happen again.

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ORIGINAL: rednicky

I hope this doesn't put too many people off. Especially women. I've always been curious about victimization. I don't know why though. but when I hear stories about men groping unsuspecting women on trains and blackmail in the work place and even being watched/followed by a guy who just wants to talk, my tummy flips a bit. For a guy to want you so much that he resorts to stalking, molesting, or blackmail is interesting. And I especially love what some men do when they get jealous. Keep in mind, I don't actually 'want' a guy like this. But to drive a men, who are all about pride, to such lengths must mean there is something about you that is especially tempting. At least, that's how I see it in my fruity little mind. I've never had the courage to dress a certain way (short shorts, spaghetti straps, and flip flops...something that says I'm not trying to look hot but I'm still hot), but I've wanted to. Just so that I could see if I could be made a 'victim'. Maybe someone will rub my ass on the metro or whisper dirty things in my ear at the cross walk.

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If a stranger did it, biiig risk. But it's worth it to him. I'm worth it to him.