StrangerThan
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I'll give you a scenario that makes more sense to me.
There's an internet group called XYZ. They are comprised of every race on the planet. A group of them come in your neighborhood and kill all the children in a school. A few years later, a member of XYZ moves in next to the school with the intention of tearing the house down and erecting a structure that is both a monument to XYZ and is open for you to come see how nice they really are. Some in your neighborhood think it is insensitive for him to do so even though he says he is nothing like the others and we can agree he doesn't have the same type of background.
A few weeks later, he goes and hangs out with more members of XYZ, comes back and tells you that if he doesn't build it there, it may cause them to come kill more kids in your neighborhood. In fact, some of the more militant members of XYZ publicly state the monument should go there or there will be a backlash that you will have to deal with.
That makes more sense to me, but you can be pro mosque all you like. Hell, I'll be pro mosque with you if they move it. And no where is there any debate on the right.
I think your analogy would make more sense if all Muslims knew each other, or 'hung out' wit each other. From what I understand the Imam worked extensively with Bush, and was criticized by some in the Muslim world actually as being too pro-u.s. Here are some other details you're having trouble with:
Its not that a member of group XYZ is saying "he's not like the others." He'd be saying that the shooter in XYZ was weirdo in the minority, and that the others are not like him. See the problem here, is that at on a subconscious level you are demonizing all Muslims, because as you painted the scenario as the lone member of XYZ who was not like the violent majority, instead of the other way around.
No where is there any debate on the right to build the mosque? What about those people who are trying to stop it by having it declared a historic landmark?
Alright, then I'll change my scenario.
"There's an internet group called XYZ. They are comprised of every race on the planet. A group of them come in your neighborhood and kill all the children in a school. A few years later, a member of XYZ moves in next to the school with the intention of tearing the house down and erecting a structure that is both a monument to XYZ and is open for you to come see how nice they really are. Some in your neighborhood think it is insensitive for him to do so even though he says he is nothing like the the ones who came and killed your kids and we can agree he doesn't have the same type of background. We can also agree that there are other members of XYZ who don't share that type of background.
A few weeks later, he goes and hangs out with more members of XYZ, comes back and tells you that if he doesn't build it there, it may cause them to come kill more kids in your neighborhood. In fact, some of the more militant members of XYZ publicly state the monument should go there or there will be a backlash that you will have to deal with.
That makes more sense to me, but you can be pro mosque all you like. Hell, I'll be pro mosque with you if they move it. And no where is there any debate on the right."
There you go.
It has less to do with demonizing muslims than it does recognizing the fact that this is an emotional issue for much of America.
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