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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 3:39:58 PM   
BonesFromAsh


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I have treated over 200 survivors and there was a point in every one of their lives when they wanted to see their perp get a taste of his own medicine. Normal human beings believe in poetic justice. Males have testosterone and generally direct their anger into physical and sexual aggression. Females tend to internalize their anger, where the anger truns into self-hate which leads to depression.



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I have been introducing survivors to masochistic bottoms for over 25 years. I have never had an unsatisfied customer. I offer double money back. No one has ever asked for their money back. No one has ever sued me. All have thanked me.


You may want to take time to refresh your memory insofar as ethics is concerned within the medical/theraphy fields. If you actually are any sort of professional (not that I believe that for one minute), you're a malpractice suit waiting to happen.

http://www.goodtherapy.org/ethics-therapy.html


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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 3:44:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mistletoe

I am a sexual abuse survivor and never once have I wanted to heal myself by taking out my anger on a person who was not directly involved in my suffering. If any therapist ever suggested such a thing to me I would have been outta there pronto. The Op's views are very warped and possibly very dangerous to the one receiving his help and anyone helping him provide that type of therapy. I am a proud survivor because I chose to no longer be a victim. I partake in BDSM because I enjoy it not because I was once abused and needed BSDM as my outlet. I am however upset at the thought there are people interested in BDSM reading this thread who might think the practice of BDSM is directly related to being abused in any form. I would hope they do their own research and see that is not the case for most of us in the lifestyle. 


THIS.
<-- not an abuse survivor, but (((HUGS))) and kudos for mistletoe on a winning post. <3

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 3:47:59 PM   
Mistletoe


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ORIGINAL: SorceressJ



THIS.
<-- not an abuse survivor, but (((HUGS))) and kudos for mistletoe on a winning post. <3


Awwww Thanks...:) I love hugs!


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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 4:02:02 PM   
Twoshoes


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ORIGINAL: jujubeeMB
I haven't commented on the thread once, except to clarify that you were being sarcastic when people were misunderstanding that. If you're worried about privacy, don't name the schools you went to, just name the degrees.


The sarcasm was not lost on me.
I'm just assuming he gets off on hearing about women's emotional reactions to non-consensual abuse - the kind of self-indulged empathy that you'd find in a twue sadist.

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Anyone here knows what Argumentum ad verecundiam means? I have credentials and licenses but I don't put any stock in them. I don't think they have any value whatsoever. So you can thnk what you like. I stand by the number of people I have helped. [...]. Even if i trotted out all my degrees, certifications and licenses you would still go on attacking me and positions with the same exact intensity. Who are you fooling?

A refusal to make an argument from authority.

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I have treated over 200 survivors and there was a point in every one of their lives when they wanted to see their perp get a taste of his own medicine. Normal human beings believe in poetic justice.

Appeal to accomplishment (in red, can't miss it even if you try)

Edit: Being nice to people can be so hard sometimes.

< Message edited by Twoshoes -- 9/20/2010 4:30:03 PM >

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 4:07:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Twoshoes



By the way, I barely tolerate intellectual discourse (it's in my profile). So I asked my friend who used to live a trailer park to figure this out for me. He does have like 22 cousins and 4 half-brothers - the real deal.



LOL I just spewed tea all over myself. Good one!


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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 4:10:58 PM   
Twoshoes


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It was my last New Year's resolution to stop doing that forever.
And that guy really is my friend.

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 4:13:18 PM   
SorceressJ


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Status: offline 		I live in a (nice) trailer park, AND I do intellectual discourse. I'm special like that.
I have a dearth of cousins, only one half-brother that lives 3,000 miles away that I never speak to, but I do have 9 cats, one Husband, one child left at home, and a raccoon.
I also agree with purepleasure about yard work therapy. Being outside ROCKS, as long as the cops don't get called..


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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 4:39:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

sexyred1 wrote:
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If someone is using BDSM as an expression of anger or self hatred, then it is abusive.


It is not abusive if it occurs between consenting adults for their mutual benefit. Edge play is abusive and is not sane. Half the things subs ask their Doms to do are abusive. Sewing a sub's vagina shut is not abusive? Skewering her breasts with knitting needles is not abusive? Using her as a human ashtray is not abusive? Cannning her to the point where she is left with permanent scars is not abusive? Branding her is not abusive? Sharing your sub with your friends is not abusive? Why don't you ask any normal human being which is more abusive?


NO.....none of these things that you have quoted are abusive if it is consensual!

I find it interesting that you don't think 'they' are 'normal' human beings.

I am a masochist, my Master/Partner/Lover/Fiancee (getting married next year...yay!) is a sadist....I have permanent marks left on me because of the 'play' we have engaged in......according to you, we are not normal human beings.
Just because we choose to engage in 'edge' play does not mean that we are not normal......and I take offence personally that you insinuate such a thing.

My Master and I have engaged in many things which I know many here on the forums would not agree with.
What I do not do, is try to make others agree with me! What we do between us is between consenting adults, what we do is definately not through anger, what we do is because we love each other, I could not go the extremes I do with my Master if I didnt love/adore and trust him with all of my heart......and just because of that reason...it is liberating!

I do NOT believe you when you state that you have helped many others...I think you are a liar who is talking out their arse.
If I were a single sub, I would not even contemplate meeting you because of your forum threads.

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 4:47:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip
Sewing a sub's vagina shut is not abusive? Skewering her breasts with knitting needles is not abusive? Using her as a human ashtray is not abusive?


It does seem like you are obsessed with those three things. I don't know anybody that does any of those, by the way. Are there really lots of subs walking around sewn shut, skewered and puffing ash?

Cali


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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 4:51:19 PM   
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If I were a single sub, I would not even contemplate meeting you because of your forum threads.

Amen!


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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 4:52:23 PM   
Twoshoes


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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip
I think you are expecting to much of derelicts living in trailer parks.
[...]
Were you really picturing Einstein living in a trailer park, or some out of work, mentally disabled, redneck Southerner, who never made it past 5th grade?


It's a bit different if you actually know someone who lives in a trailer park, I suppose.
Plus, some of them are pretty cozy - like a little house, actually.

< Message edited by Twoshoes -- 9/20/2010 5:01:51 PM >

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 4:52:57 PM   
Jeffff


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Here in Chicago you can't throw a cat without hitting a sewed up sub.

Do you have any idea how disappointing that is?

You beat them and torture them and when it comes time to bang them? Another night of anal sex.... it can bring a guy down.



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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 4:54:17 PM   
VideoAdminAlpha


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Status: offline 		Or someone that is a Southerner? Some of us actually made it through school and had the achievement of being valedictorian of the graduating class.

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 4:55:19 PM   
SeparatedSub


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Status: offline 		Skewering breasts with knitting needles?  My somewhat submissive and vanilla wife loves to knit - finally a Domme activity that she'll enjoy doing to me.  Hey, and she's an abuse survivor herself, so she'll probably become totally healed in the process!!!  Two birds with one stone!!!  Where can I send a check?

Oh, I don't have breasts.  Crap.

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 4:55:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

I don't know anybody that does any of those, by the way.

I know people who do the human ashtray thing. I've never thought it was that big a deal.

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 4:56:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip
Sewing a sub's vagina shut is not abusive? Skewering her breasts with knitting needles is not abusive? Using her as a human ashtray is not abusive?


It does seem like you are obsessed with those three things. I don't know anybody that does any of those, by the way. Are there really lots of subs walking around sewn shut, skewered and puffing ash?

Cali



Thanks, I am glad someone else noticed that obsession with those three things. Perhaps he has seen too many horror films and thought they were porn?

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 4:56:32 PM   
Jeffff


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Status: offline 		How do you feel about cat throwing?

If you don't declaw them..... is that R.A.C.K?

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 4:56:56 PM   
CalifChick


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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

They are EVERYWHERE!

Here in Chicago you can't throw a cat without hitting a sewed up sub.

Do you have any idea how disappointing that is?

You beat them and torture them and when it comes time to bang them? Another night of anal sex.... it can bring a guy down.




Use your cigarette to burn thru the stitches. Amateur.

Cali


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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 5:00:14 PM   
Mistletoe


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ORIGINAL: CalifChick


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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

They are EVERYWHERE!

Here in Chicago you can't throw a cat without hitting a sewed up sub.

Do you have any idea how disappointing that is?

You beat them and torture them and when it comes time to bang them? Another night of anal sex.... it can bring a guy down.




Use your cigarette to burn thru the stitches. Amateur.

Cali



OMG! That is sooooo bad. I love it!


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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 5:00:57 PM   
Jeffff


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I't was bothering the cats.

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