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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 5:10:34 PM   
femasoslave


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Sewing a sub's vagina shut is not abusive? Skewering her breasts with knitting needles is not abusive? Using her as a human ashtray is not abusive?


It does seem like you are obsessed with those three things. I don't know anybody that does any of those, by the way. Are there really lots of subs walking around sewn shut, skewered and puffing ash?

Cali



I think that the Op isn't really obsessed with these things, I think he is stating the most extreme things he can think of, he has stated many times that he isn't into sadism.
I reckon he's just a guy who hasnt actually done much at all with BDSM (probably just read a lot), he is stating many things as well as saying that he has degrees and when LadyPact asked him for his degrees he declined saying that he doesnt HAVE to do anything of the such.
He doesnt have any degree at all......I'm sure LadyPact wouldnt mind him sending her a copy of his 'degrees', and then telling the rest of us that he hasnt been lying. I bet that won't happen!

I have found over the years that most intelligent people have the abilty to at least give other peoples idea some genuine thought....he is stuck in his ways and doesnt wish to budge.

I think he is a just another fake and liar.

edited because of spelling mistake and added something in.

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 5:13:19 PM   
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I am glad to say that I was never sexually abused, though I was sexually *harassed*. (not that I recognized it as such as the time)

Nonetheless, if I have any kind of residual anger to release, it will not be directed at some stranger! That's just perpetuating the cycle of abuse!


I was never sxually abused either, although I was in an abusive marriage... which is not fun

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 5:18:42 PM   
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WhiptheHip, I see your name at the top to the page refreshing the thread. I asked my questions in all seriousness. It would be nice if you would respond.


Best part about this thread:
I read that.
Remembered a song.
Listened to "I see you baby" ~ Groove Armada.
Had a good time.

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 5:19:23 PM   
sirsholly


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I am wondering if there are any survivors here who think they would be helped by taking out their anger on a male bottom?


A therapists job in a situation like this is to help the victim deal with the cause of the anger, as opposed to the focus being just on the anger itself. Suggesting a female submissive take out her negative feelings on a stranger who has never harmed her will probably cause a great deal of detriment and confusion to the victim. With each act of emotional release with an unrelated party, the victim will in some way be reliving the cause of the anger and accumulate additional negative feelings because of their inability to unleash their anger on their abuser.

I suppose if you were dealing with a vanilla abuse victim you would suggest going to a bar, getting drunk, then beating up the smallest person there?

And it puzzles me that an abuse victim would go along with this nonsense. Victims of abuse generally have no desire to release their anger on a stranger who has never caused them harm. The one they  want to unleash on is the one who perpetuated the abuse in the first place.


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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 5:19:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well... I was abused as a kid. Both by relatives I should have been able to trust, a man who was to marry into my family and a group of 7 thugs. I am not a survivor though, and I do take exception to the OP's premise that those who do go through those things are survivors. I lived through it. I conquored the lesson and did not let it rule me. Surviving implies still effected. EVEN when I was working as a bouncer that was not in an attempt to gain back my power. I had power. I worked as one because I have a good deal of control and was able to direct it to resolve security issues. Anger, or working out anger never was a part of it.
Survival? Screw that. Give me triumpth anyday.

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 5:26:38 PM   
LadyRian


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Status: offline 		I don't think it would be a very therapeutic thing to do, to allow someone to "abuse" someone else to take their anger out on them. And why a male? I don't think that's cool, not at all.
It just sounds like trying to add up wrong +wrong and trying to pretzel it into  = right. Which it doesn't.


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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 5:28:49 PM   
juliaoceania


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Technically, you are not "treating" anyone.  You don't have the academic requirements to do so.  If you are not licensed in any state, you shouldn't be advertising that you are conducting therapy with anyone.


Which brings up a relevant point, should he be reported to the authorities in his state for conducting therapy without a credential? If he is charging for therapy, advertising that he has met with the requirements within his state to do so, and many of us here reading this crap highly suspect he is preying on vulnerable people and abusing them, perhaps he should be reported to the authorities of the jurisdiction where he lives. I hate to think he is out there possibly causing people some grave harm

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 5:30:45 PM   
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Or someone that is a Southerner? Some of us actually made it through school and had the achievement of being valedictorian of the graduating class.


<-- Not a valedictorian, but maintaining an IQ in the 150's:





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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 5:35:23 PM   
Twoshoes


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Status: offline 		Damn that makes me jealous.
I should spent my late teens eating my fish and getting good sleep instead of trying to prove the world wrong.

Anyway, being a loser is way better than some other afflictions.

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 5:35:43 PM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		I'm curious to know if he has sex with all these women he claims to have helped with therapy and they paid him for it...hhhmmm...

and imo, all you're doing is keeping these women as victims instead of allowing them to move on from their trauma but I'm sure you know that otherwise you'd run out of clients.

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 5:36:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha

Or someone that is a Southerner? Some of us actually made it through school and had the achievement of being valedictorian of the graduating class.
lemme get this straight...you have perfect tits, great legs, a hawt ass, AND are a brainiac?





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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 5:59:23 PM   
Aynne88


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ORIGINAL: femasoslave

quote:

ORIGINAL: CalifChick

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip
Sewing a sub's vagina shut is not abusive? Skewering her breasts with knitting needles is not abusive? Using her as a human ashtray is not abusive?


It does seem like you are obsessed with those three things. I don't know anybody that does any of those, by the way. Are there really lots of subs walking around sewn shut, skewered and puffing ash?

Cali



I think that the Op isn't really obsessed with these things, I think he is stating the most extreme things he can think of, he has stated many times that he isn't into sadism.
I reckon he's just a guy who hasnt actually done much at all with BDSM (probably just read a lot), he is stating many things as well as saying that he has degrees and when LadyPact asked him for his degrees he declined saying that he doesnt HAVE to do anything of the such.
He doesnt have any degree at all......I'm sure LadyPact wouldnt mind him sending her a copy of his 'degrees', and then telling the rest of us that he hasnt been lying. I bet that won't happen!

I have found over the years that most intelligent people have the abilty to at least give other peoples idea some genuine thought....he is stuck in his ways and doesnt wish to budge.

I think he is a just another fake and liar.

edited because of spelling mistake and added something in.



He is talking about the atrocities commited to the young woman in the other thread about alternative lifestyles in the news. I thought everyone was so horrified by his defending the assholes that commited these disgusting acts? It certainly stuck out in my mind.



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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 6:48:14 PM   
daintydimples


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Status: offline 		My entire point was that the premise that all people who get off on hurting others or being hurt have been abused in the past is erroneous.

You can take any subset of females you like and say a certain percentage have been abused. This is b/c such a high percentage of all females are abused at some point in their lives.

Another very important point I was attempting to make is that predators and fragile victim types of all stripes can be drawn to the BDSM lifestyle for reasons that are less than healthy. The OP obviously likes to take advantage of that, but he is not alone. He is merely expressing a viewpoint that is extremely common.

I will say it again: reasons to be very careful about who you choose to submit to.





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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 6:49:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

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Nah, he's trolling for customers.
ick.


And I have gotten them. This place is worse than my kindergarten. Have a nice life.


Spoken like a true predator.

I hope the "customers" find their way into safe hands of a clinical therapist who can help them recover from the additional damage perpetuated by the quackery being passed off as therapy.

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 7:48:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		At first it seemed he alluded to volunteering to get this own ass beat and I thought maybe the mods needed to move this troll bait to the Introduce Yourself forums.  Now he has extrapolated explaining he is a pro and charges a fee to set you up in a three-way with two hookers posing as a rent-a-masochist and rent-a-female bouncer.  Hmm . . . that's called "pandering" and he's the pimp.  Up to a 20 year felony over here in the U.S.A.

This fucking thread is a fucking hoot.


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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 8:00:37 PM   
hausboy


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What's even more offensive is that he seemed to think that no one would see right through this crap.

Or.....  worse....

he actually BELIEVES he's doing something "good" for people.  delusional and psychotic.





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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 8:02:50 PM   
SthrnCom4t


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Status: offline 		Ok, I made it to page 7. I must be more masochistic than I thought tonight.

My conclusions - the Cliff Notes

1. I've easily identified the next profile on CM to go into my 'blocked file'.
2. Maybe I got a little disoriented....but where is the question to, "Ask a Mistress"? (or does Mistress = survivor and I missed the latest memo?)
3. Fellow posters, does it really take 11 pages to realize you can't rationalize with the OP. "He knows"....he's not really asking for anyone else's definition. He's sitting at home feeling successful because his post inspired so much energy to be spent "on him."
4. If anyone is interested in a post around cathartic results, emotional releases, stumbling across unknown triggers, etc. those are valuable topics in my mind, and I'd love to contribute.
5. My condolences to anyone who actually managed to read all the way through to my post at the end of this thread. You deserve a vacation!

Edited to correct the latest page number to 11.

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 8:04:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I am glad to say that I was never sexually abused, though I was sexually *harassed*. (not that I recognized it as such as the time)

Nonetheless, if I have any kind of residual anger to release, it will not be directed at some stranger! That's just perpetuating the cycle of abuse!


I was never sxually abused either, although I was in an abusive marriage... which is not fun



I was never sexually abused either. What's up with that stereotype? gees.

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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 8:10:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree the OP is sitting home stroking his prick over how much play this thread is getting. Maybe now that he has been shown up for the predator he is ....this thread should die.




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RE: Any survivor want to release anger - 9/20/2010 8:14:42 PM   
Mistletoe


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At first it seemed he alluded to volunteering to get this own ass beat



I offered to help him...hell I would do it for free in the name of research since I have never lifted a flogger or whip against another before. I would even videotape it for future such research reference.


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