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Padriag wrote: Interesting question, some interesting answers.  Here's another.

No, they are not and never will be equal.  Ever.  Equality is a myth, its bullshit, a pretty concept cooked up by PC socialist to make everyone feel better.  Its a pretty unhealthy concept at that.

Now before anyone flames me, let's do two things.

First lets define exactly what kind of equality we're talking about here.

Are we equal in value?  Hmm... this is a prickly one.  Let me ask you this... on what basis do you value someone?  For example... I'm a total stranger to most of you, so who would you value more, me or say... one of your parents?  If I was trapped in a burning building with one of your parents, and you could only save one of us, who would you choose.  I'm guessing about 99% of you said your parent, congrats, you value your parent more than me... so we ain't equal in value then are we.

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Padriag wrote: Six years ago I had a slave, she was also my fiance'.  She was one of those people who was smarter than me.  She was far better educated, had been to the best schools, studied across Europe, had a lot of advantages.  Artistically she was so incredibly talented she made me look like an artistic dud... and most folks consider me a fairly good artist (I used to make my living as a painter).  She could sing, play eight different musical instruments (I'm still struggling to learn one), spoke seven languages fluently, etc.  I tend to measure value by merit... and by my reckoning she was superior to me in almost every way.  I loved her for it, among other reasons.  Perhaps most of all because she was a better person than me, more humane, more kind, more generous, more noble.  She helped me be a better person.  I was her Master... I was her inferior... and it didn't make a bit of difference to the fact I loved her til the day she died.  What did matter was we were two people both trying to be the best we could be.

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ORIGINAL: murmur

After talking with a fews doms here and there...i've been wondering....
I wish to have people's honest answers here...
I personnaly thinks that submissive and dominants should be equals, dont you think? or that, when one choose to become one *beneath* the other, it doesnt mean he becomes *really* beneath him, but only in this state because he chooses so. therefore, the equal thingy is still there.
But i've been talking and asking lots of questions...and a lots of doms would answer me to my question as if :
yeah, you and me are equals right now. but if you were on my collar or if you would be my sub, you would have to answer to my demands and therefore, be beneath me.

but but but...what does that mean?? i believe in the yin and yan thing in a D/s relationship, the *you complete me* thing...not the beneath me thing...or is there differences? is there exceptions?
is a slave *less* worthy then her master only because she surrenders her whole being to him?
personnally, i dont think so!
but, where is the lign here? is *there* a lign?
Does the terms submission means inferiority? or the opposite, as in, dominance = superiority? for a lot of doms, it does seems so....

What do you think?

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ORIGINAL: Reasonable

How frustrating Rose,how do you figure he managed to slip through your initial screening?