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True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 11:52:48 AM

Bravado

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I'm not so stupid as to believe that there are any "true slaves" among the privileged people in the world, so I expect that any sub will have some tangible needs and expectations. When they argue that they have no such needs and are ready to commit themselves to be permanent property, I wonder if they even realize that it is a lie.

If they knew what true slavery was, then they wouldn't be asking for it. If you have the audacity to claim it's something you enjoy and want me to show you what true slavery is, come along, I have plenty of stones to haul and a place to dump your body when you've died of exhaustion.

While I respect that a person may have fantasies, and would like to roleplay the kink of being a real slave, I'm sure I can't be the only one that is annoyed when he is approached by a girl who attempts to convince you that she's the traditional definition of a slave and ready to serve as though all other BDSM slaves are posers. I'm willing to believe that someone out there masturbates to the idea of building a pyramid in the desert for a decade of unrewarded effort until their demise, but I don't think that person is a young white girl who hasn't worked for a decade in any job, let alone something brutal and unforgiving.

Do you suppose these people know that they are lying, or have lost themselves in a delusional fantasy? Have you had any experience relevant to the idea of a "true slave?"

This topic was inspired by the recent news, in which many Nigerian slaves were discovered being trafficked, which is unfortunately fairly common. I have great pity for those people, and their plight makes me wonder how any could convince themselves that it's what they want.

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 12:00:04 PM

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Shall I start popping the corn now?

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 12:01:28 PM

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meh. you suppose that all true slavery is the kind that is wanton and wasteful use by masters, and I am here to tell you joe, it ain't so.... In fact, for long before you were here on this earth there were slaves, and it was until very recently that a good share of this planet was at least in partial slavery...........

The preponderance of the evidence says no.

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 12:09:45 PM

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Perhaps I have no clear idea what "true slavery" is meant to imply in the BDSM world. I imagine it has something to do with the fetish of being sold, but I had always found that amusing. You can bet that if a man tried to sell a healthy girl to a group of slave traffickers in a country like Columbia, no matter what she said about "true slavery" and may have mentioned about liking the idea of being sold, she would fight to the death before crossing the border.

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 12:23:56 PM

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What do they do in Columbia?It may be you don't understand what they call 'true' slavery in 'BDSM'. Hell, I don't understnd it, I just want my dick sucked.

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 12:24:01 PM

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So you have no idea what slavery actually is, but you write a rant telling experienced BDSMers that they have it wrong?

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 12:29:10 PM

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quote:

So you have no idea what slavery actually is, but you write a rant telling experienced BDSMers that they have it wrong?

Uh yup, I'm thinking we're gonna need a lot of corn....

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 12:30:01 PM

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DarkSteven, I advise that read the lines before you try reading between them.

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 12:39:04 PM

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Your true slavery is not my true slavery, you might want to dump them in a rockpile at the end of a day, but when I get my gawdawful filthy on, if it is right with me and the world, there is every chance in the world I wanna do it again.

So, while there is some allure to associate me with Jack the Ripper, cuz I could get off on dancing naked around the campfire in a girlgut boa and practicing Dr J style layups with cutoff tits, how am I gonna do that with her again?

In our league we use a blackjack, not a little polish, a little poise, know what I mean?

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 12:50:12 PM

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Again, nothing against people and their happiness, as this is just a discussion and not the beginning of a the New Internet Government ruled by me, in which I can mandate terminology. While I'm willing to believe that it is someone's fetish, it is highly doubtful to me that the sub would ever want to be a real slave, unless of course "true slave" is a BDSM slang word for "girl that tries extra hard to pretend that it's real." Then there are a lot of true slaves out there, and for that I apologize ;)

As for a dom wanting a true slave, sure, who couldn't use an extra ottoman?

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 12:54:06 PM

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Wow. This is going to be so enlightening. I'd been hoping someone would come along and help me to sort out my various delusions.

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 1:00:53 PM

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Today is your lucky day! I won't even charge by the hour for all the semantic-swinging and hypothetical arguments that will ensue.

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 1:03:02 PM

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quote:

Wow. This is going to be so enlightening. I'd been hoping someone would come along and help me to sort out my various delusions.

Jeff, when will you finally be trained!?!?!?!

(I'd totally let you enlighten me, though. :) )

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 1:04:07 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bravado
Today is your lucky day! I won't even charge by the hour for all the semantic-swinging and hypothetical arguments that will ensue.

So, you don't like how some use the word 'slavery' in terms of role-playing?

I can relate.

I am not overly fond of the word 'Idiosyncrasy' and would much rather it be replaced with the made-up word 'Charmality'. Sadly, my influence over the English language is not enough to overpower it into compliance through rhetoric.

On the other hand, French is a wanton slut of a language; it freely lets itself be misused, twisted into different meanings and generally disrespected by self-indulgent people who think 'joie de vivre' is a decoration for otherwise unrelated sentences.

All this to say: "Pass 'ze popcorn! This thread is gonna be a charmality-riddled lolz-fest."

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 1:05:29 PM

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French may not be the wanton slut as you say. It could very well be a "true slave," being misused by force against its will. Who are you to judge, anyway?!?!

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 1:07:05 PM

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Im a slave to requests....
and a little bit of french too

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 1:12:57 PM

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I'll be staying tuned to this topic.

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 1:14:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: leadership527

Wow. This is going to be so enlightening. I'd been hoping someone would come along and help me to sort out my various delusions.

I think it's going to come as somewhat of a surprise to some others as well. I'm afraid you'll have to advise Carol and I'll except the burden in telling clip.

It's days like this that I certainly miss a couple of people of our acquaintance on these boards.

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 1:20:27 PM

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LadyPact, I'm certain they already know the difference between themselves and Nigerians being kidnapped or scammed and sold overseas. And no, it isn't that they aren't black!

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 9/29/2010 1:21:10 PM

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The stranger who messages you out of the blue and offers to do whatever you ask of her because she is a "true slave" does sound a bit comical, no disrespect to how they feel about themselves and their "role" on this earth.
However, in a loving, trusting, nurturing relationship, you can not argue that the desire in a slaves heart to perform whatever task her master asks of her is not an authentic desire, and that they are being true to their chosen role.

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