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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 10/12/2010 4:03:55 PM   
truesub4u


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Would you want a slave who didn't want you?




Finally, now I know what a true slave is. How could I not have realized before? It was so obvious! A true slave is the male master of a female slave.





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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 10/12/2010 4:36:11 PM   
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Have you even been reading the entirety of my posts, Bravado? Or CallaFireStorm's? Or anyone's posts for that matter? Or do you just look for that one single sentence that you can then warp to fit your own perspective and be sarcastic and rude about it?

The only way you can consider them to be synonymous is in that they are being true to themselves.

A slave is being true in who she wants to give herself to and how she wants to give herself to said person

A Master is being true in who he wants to have control over and how he wants to have control over said person.

The why's and how's don't necessarily matter, so long as they know what THEY want and are honest about it.


Also, I must add that gender has nothing to do with it. I speak in terms of he Master and she slave because that is MY preference, I have a Master, I am not a Dom myself. There are plenty of male slaves and female Doms out there though, and just because they are of 'different genders' doesn't make them any less real or true to themselves.


< Message edited by WolfyMontgomery -- 10/12/2010 4:37:58 PM >


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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 10/12/2010 4:46:56 PM   
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Or do you just look for that one single sentence that you can then warp to fit your own perspective and be sarcastic and rude about it?



Bingo!!!!  You've finally figured out his game.  This is not the first profile name that he has played this game under.

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 10/12/2010 8:05:04 PM   
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Bingo!!!!  You've finally figured out his game.  This is not the first profile name that he has played this game under.



Lol. How can you tell it's the same person? Does he have a certain schedule to post stuff? "Hmm... I used this name last week to make a shitty post. I'll use this one this week."

I'm not exactly surprised, and I guess that's why he never replied once I said that lol.

At least - I hope - even though it was a waste of time in terms of explaining things to HIM, that other people still learned stuff from what people said in here anyway, so that it wasn't an entire waste.

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 10/12/2010 8:55:17 PM   
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they should forbid the word "true" and this forum will be a lott smaller


True.


*gigglesnorts at the pure irony*  That was a good one!


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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 10/13/2010 7:51:33 AM   
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You have the most romantic image of slavery. No wonder it's so popular with women! It's like having a husband, but even more commitment and responsibility. He has all the same obligations to make his partner want to be with him, provides financial support, and the additional responsibility of authority over her life (but only when she wants it).

Finally, now I know what a true slave is. How could I not have realized before? It was so obvious! A true slave is the male master of a female slave.


Wow... again... just completely blow away by the manipulation of what has been said on this thread the filter of personal biases.

I find this post particularly interesting from the perspective of a FEMALE dominant-oriented individual (i.e., a woman in charge of the relationship who is there because she wants to be, whose submissive partners are there because they -want- to be, who has negotiated the issues of financial support -- including having servants who both were 100% in-home service, and those who were split between in-home and in-the-world service; and who holds authority over the servant's life until either myself OR the servant OR life circumstance cause that to change) -- from that perspective, I find the above remark to be surprisingly gender-biased and ignorant in their portrayal of women AND of men!

I think that it is particularly telling that the above perspective of what constitutes "true" is so deeply founded in the -fictional- representation of authority dynamics. Of -course- relationships change. Of -course- it is possible that a person who was fulfilled in a situation where xhe completely yielded authority to another might find hirself changing to the point where xhe needs to re-claim some of that authority (or, on the other foot, where someone who has claimed full authority over another individual decides that it is in hir own and everyone else's best interests if xhe returns some of that authority to the one who has yielded). People -do- grow, and -do- change, and situations cause shifts and variations in relationship dynamics. "True" relationships on either side of the kneel -do- take that into consideration, because they are based in -reality-, not in a fantasy. A "true" slave in a living dynamic will be the one who is true to hirself, and to hir commitments, and who allows hir dedication to speak for itself -- including being honest enough to speak up when the functionality of the dynamic is wavering, before it founders completely.

Calla


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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 10/18/2010 10:17:43 AM   
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Wow! There are so many replies to your thread, that I didn't take time read through all of them. So, there is a possibility that I will be reiterating someone else's thoughts. My thoughts on "true" slavery comes from my learning of American history. Isn't it true the slaves cost money prior to 1862? Would it be financially prudent to work a, purchased and trained, "true" slave to death? Only to have to purchase and train another? On plantations in the american south prior to 1862, there were many types of "true" slaves. There were field slaves, house slaves, stable slaves, etc. Each were trained and valuable.  These "true" slaves were property. And valuable, not dispensible, property. This is the true essence of my need or want to be a true slave. To be owned and cared for like a valuable possesion. Were the house slaves worked to death in the kitchen? Of course not, some of them became parts of the family, so to speak. Trusted! Wouldnt you have to trust the slave that makes your food or raises your children. This property didnt lug loads of rocks to its death, only to be disgarded like a carcasss. So, it seems to me, that you are only looking a your own narrow definition of what you think is a true slave. Is it possible that there may be a different view of slavery than your own?

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 10/18/2010 10:35:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

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they should forbid the word "true" and this forum will be a lott smaller


True.


*gigglesnorts at the pure irony*  That was a good one!




it indeed would have safed us 3 posts :P
( 4...actually..lol)

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 10/18/2010 10:37:20 AM   
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So "true master" and "true slave" are synonymous! Other than gender, of course.


can't they both be male then?

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 10/18/2010 10:49:28 AM   
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I've always suspected you weren't "true" Dame Calla :)

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RE: True Slavery, a delusional roleplay. - 10/19/2010 3:00:08 AM   
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I've always suspected you weren't "true" Dame Calla :)


Yeah, I guess the boobies gave it away, huh? *grins*

Calla

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