CallaFirestormBW
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You have the most romantic image of slavery. No wonder it's so popular with women! It's like having a husband, but even more commitment and responsibility. He has all the same obligations to make his partner want to be with him, provides financial support, and the additional responsibility of authority over her life (but only when she wants it). Finally, now I know what a true slave is. How could I not have realized before? It was so obvious! A true slave is the male master of a female slave. Wow... again... just completely blow away by the manipulation of what has been said on this thread the filter of personal biases. I find this post particularly interesting from the perspective of a FEMALE dominant-oriented individual (i.e., a woman in charge of the relationship who is there because she wants to be, whose submissive partners are there because they -want- to be, who has negotiated the issues of financial support -- including having servants who both were 100% in-home service, and those who were split between in-home and in-the-world service; and who holds authority over the servant's life until either myself OR the servant OR life circumstance cause that to change) -- from that perspective, I find the above remark to be surprisingly gender-biased and ignorant in their portrayal of women AND of men! I think that it is particularly telling that the above perspective of what constitutes "true" is so deeply founded in the -fictional- representation of authority dynamics. Of -course- relationships change. Of -course- it is possible that a person who was fulfilled in a situation where xhe completely yielded authority to another might find hirself changing to the point where xhe needs to re-claim some of that authority (or, on the other foot, where someone who has claimed full authority over another individual decides that it is in hir own and everyone else's best interests if xhe returns some of that authority to the one who has yielded). People -do- grow, and -do- change, and situations cause shifts and variations in relationship dynamics. "True" relationships on either side of the kneel -do- take that into consideration, because they are based in -reality-, not in a fantasy. A "true" slave in a living dynamic will be the one who is true to hirself, and to hir commitments, and who allows hir dedication to speak for itself -- including being honest enough to speak up when the functionality of the dynamic is wavering, before it founders completely. Calla
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*** Said to me recently: "Look, I know you're the "voice of reason"... but dammit, I LIKE being unreasonable!!!!" "Your mind is more interested in the challenge of becoming than the challenge of doing." Jon Benson, Bodybuilder/Trainer
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