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ORIGINAL: Hotch

I agree whole heartedly with the OP's observation. While I understand what people mean when they say "true slave", I think it's a very poor choice of words because unlike the other definitions that have been adopted and bastardized to fit within the context of BDSM, true slavery is still very alive and well in this day and age. There really should be a better term for someone who gives themselves over 100% to another within the confines of the lifestyle and with the expectation that they will be treated within the scope of their expectations.

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ORIGINAL: Bravado

I'm not so stupid as to believe that there are any "true slaves" among the privileged people in the world, so I expect that any sub will have some tangible needs and expectations. When they argue that they have no such needs and are ready to commit themselves to be permanent property, I wonder if they even realize that it is a lie.

If they knew what true slavery was, then they wouldn't be asking for it. If you have the audacity to claim it's something you enjoy and want me to show you what true slavery is, come along, I have plenty of stones to haul and a place to dump your body when you've died of exhaustion.

While I respect that a person may have fantasies, and would like to roleplay the kink of being a real slave, I'm sure I can't be the only one that is annoyed when he is approached by a girl who attempts to convince you that she's the traditional definition of a slave and ready to serve as though all other BDSM slaves are posers. I'm willing to believe that someone out there masturbates to the idea of building a pyramid in the desert for a decade of unrewarded effort until their demise, but I don't think that person is a young white girl who hasn't worked for a decade in any job, let alone something brutal and unforgiving.

Do you suppose these people know that they are lying, or have lost themselves in a delusional fantasy? Have you had any experience relevant to the idea of a "true slave?"

This topic was inspired by the recent news, in which many Nigerian slaves were discovered being trafficked, which is unfortunately fairly common. I have great pity for those people, and their plight makes me wonder how any could convince themselves that it's what they want.

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Based on how it is defined in defense, I would say that a "true slave" is something objectionable, disconcerting, and void of any reason to be happy or proud. And therefore anyone who claims to be a real slave, as opposed to the implied inferiority of a kinky sex slave, should be expected to cry for help rather than gloat.

I'm satisfied that while most disagree with the way that I articulated my opinion, the general consensus is in agreement. "True slave" is a silly phrase, means nothing with the added prefix, and is used among subscribers of BDSM solely as a way to brag in an effort to impress.

And again, I don't deny that there are slaves in BDSM. Sure, you can be a slave. To anything. To TV, to masturbating, to alcohol, to your job or schoolwork. It's a figurative or symbolic term to describe a commitment or seemingly inescapable circumstance. Adding the word "true" ahead of it merely makes it a more pretentious claim.

If I'm wrong, if any of you out there are true slaves, under 5'5, slender and busty, and have at least a bachelor's degree, come along now. There is work to be done. And you have no choice.

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Ah, to be old someday when I may blatantly heckle those younger than myself with baseless insults based solely on difference of age. Truly a mark of the enlightened!

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

You absolutely must see the irony of this.  Considering the original is based on your stance for an accurate definition of the term "true slavery", I do find it a bit funny that later you'll transpose the terms "preference" and "fetish".

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

The first two are e duo pluribus of heckling older than yourself with baseless insults based solely on difference of texture and nuance in two words...

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ORIGINAL: Bravado
Is it the word "irony" that confuses you, or "true?" Certainly the confusion of one of those two must have made you say such a silly thing.

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ORIGINAL: Bravado
Based on how it is defined in defense, I would say that a "true slave" is something objectionable, disconcerting, and void of any reason to be happy or proud. And therefore anyone who claims to be a real slave, as opposed to the implied inferiority of a kinky sex slave, should be expected to cry for help rather than gloat.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Actually, it's My sense of humor.  Sorry you didn't get it.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I'm actually not apologizing.  I still find it funny.