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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 12:40:02 PM   
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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 12:40:27 PM   
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Meat world? I said that? Are you sure?

It sounds like the kind of crap you'd say.


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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 12:45:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

FR

I remembered something else.

Coming from the guy who said this:

quote:

im not a masochist at all. the girl that i play with now happens to love beating me though, and since she is really fucking hot, accepting it as a condition is my only chance of being around her. so, its more than worth it.
<snip>
my "coping" strategy is how lucky i am that this girl allows me to interact with her. she could have any guy she wanted, so if i didn't do everything possible to comply, she would just move on.


...this entire rant about how the members of other some other demographic only do this because they can't get laid otherwise seems incredibly rich.

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VC: it is really cute that you remembered that snippet... but in my defense, she. was. a. celebrity. you are making an apples/oranges comparison is you are trying to find any congruence.

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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 12:54:41 PM   
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I see you've done another great job of getting both the submissive and the dominant women on this site upset at you.  And I've noticed a few dominant males also took offense to your post.  And Peon also took exception to your post, so you've also offended the sub males.  Kudos! 

But seriously, I'm sure that you now see the error of your ways.  Making sweeping generalizations based upon one data point is just bad science.

Are there "male doms" who aren't very dominant in the real world, and who believe that they will have more success if they try suckering vulnerable submissive women?  Certainly.  And some submissive women may even fall for their tactics.  But I'm sure the majority of submissive women will see right through their facade.  You see, a loser is a loser, regardless of whether he's on-line or in real-life.  He probably doesn't have the confidence or social skills to approach a woman in real-life, and he probably lacks the personality and writing skill to present himself effectively on-line.  See the problem?  Same shortcomings, only his on-line profile presents it via a different medium.

But just like there are losers of all genders, and on all sides of the kneel, there are also winners.  You seem to be ignoring this fact.

So I acknowledge that it is possible that you met a loser.  But what does that have to do with the rest of the world?  Just as you don't represent all submissive males, your friend does not represent all dominant males.  He is one individual.  No more, and no less.


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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 12:57:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		The guy did state MOST and not all. He also did say this was HIS BELIEF..Are we condemning him because he has an opinion?

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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 1:10:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Icarys

The guy did state MOST and not all. He also did say this was HIS BELIEF..Are we condemning him because he has an opinion?


No, we're condemning him because he has a stupid opinion. 

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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 1:11:41 PM   
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The guy did state MOST and not all. He also did say this was HIS BELIEF..Are we condemning him because he has an opinion?


Not at all.  But his belief is supported by almost nothing.  That is what I am condemning.  He had one interaction, and he uses it as support for a premise that he has presented here before in a different format.

Frankly, I have seen PLENTY of losers who claim to be doms.  In fact, if I were to take most of the "dominant males" from my local BDSM club to a nearby bar, most of them wouldn't be able to get a date.  Even if the women were totally drunk, most of them still wouldn't be able to get laid. 

But I don't use that as support to make any judgments of you or any of the other self-proclaimed doms on this site.   I don't know anything about any of you.  Some of you are probably very serious about what you do, and very good at it.  And some of you are probably hopelessly shy, jobless guys who haven't had a date in years who have decided to try this site as a way to possibly change your luck with the ladies.  I don't use any of you as a blanket representation of the group.   That is my only point.

BTW, most of what we discuss on this board is opinion.  I have no problem with that.  But I do take exception to this one individual's opinion.  But of course, that is only MY opinion. 

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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 1:16:34 PM   
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Let's get something straight. Submissive women are not prey and can stand up for themselves. If there are idiots playing a game, they can handle it. Stop putting the women in a category where they seem helpless, vulnerable and weak. You are more insulting than the men with cock in hand begging a woman to do it for him. So get rid of that puffed up pride that comes from you thinking higher of yourself than others.


What she said.

And also the fact that this - domly dom had to turn to you for advice on how to get laid should have told you right there just how high his success rate had been with his hapless 'prey'.

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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 1:20:19 PM   
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I'm gonna burn down the house, close my corporation, gamble away all my money, kick everhope out, tear up my little black book, give myself a silly haircut and put on some unattractive clothing.  Then I'm gonna' eat a bag of Viagra, drink a fifth of scotch and go to the nearest cyber cafe so I can log into CollarMe as a desperate horny Dom . . . just so I can relate to this thread and the people replying to it as if it wasn't a joke.

Please make sure to bring along your web cam.....you know...so we can all better relate.

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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 1:33:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		The men I've met on this site IRL are not truly lifestyle subs. They basically want sex, or a girlfriend who is dominant in bed. This is oh so disheartening.

I think that the women on here are probably at least interested in whatever it is they say they're into. Maybe that's too broad a generalization, but I just don't see any incentive for a woman to lie. What for? Sex isn't difficult to get. Perhaps there are some who are here because they've been either f-ed over by crappy guys or they were in relationships in which they had to lead everything and want someone else to take the wheels for a change. I don't see the incentive for a woman to be blatantly dishonest.

As I see it, take subs who are clear that there is no sex or sexual gratification on their part at all. This eliminates all "do me subs." Most of why I decided to go pro is because I realized that I was giving away what I could be selling. Not sex, but at the end of the day, they got off sexually and that was that. My rookie mistakes. I didn't educate myself or get involved in the community. Anyway, I saw that there was a huge market and the rest is history.

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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 3:25:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
Haha! My guitar works wonders too :D

ETA: although I'm not sure about vanilla women being hotter. I'm hanging around with a group of what I guess you guys would call TNG-ers right now, and they are GAWJUS, yes they are :D


I guess I should have said were much better looking instead of are much  better looking since this was only about my own personal experience. Still, if I were just into this to get laid as the OP suggests I'd still be out bar hopping among the vanillas.

ETA: Now that I think about it, I actually also did pretty well finding kink friendly partners out in the vanilla world during that same 20 year period. True, it wasn't over the top BDSM stuff - mostly just bondage and other 'kinky foreplay' but I found takers often enough to quench my thirst.


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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 3:31:04 PM   
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I should have made a prediction in My first post on this thread just how long this would take.


What surprises me is that after 13662 posts, you still have the energy to reply to this sort of thread, LP.
Nice job not letting anyone slander male doms/male subs/female doms for no good reason.

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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 3:44:10 PM   
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The guy did state MOST and not all. He also did say this was HIS BELIEF..Are we condemning him because he has an opinion?


No, we're condemning him because he has a stupid opinion. 

I'm betting there's plenty of stuff you do and say that's pretty stupid as well.


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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 3:48:00 PM   
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I'm betting there's plenty of stuff you do and say that's pretty stupid as well.


And I bet he'd expect to be called on it if he did it in public.

Are you seriously saying everybody's opinion needs to respected by virtue of it being an opinion, Icarys? Even I'm not that PC...


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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 3:48:33 PM   
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Not at all. But his belief is supported by almost nothing. That is what I am condemning. He had one interaction, and he uses it as support for a premise that he has presented here before in a different format.


I didn't read it that way...What I saw was someone who said they've had this belief for some time...Not that this was the only time he's encountered this nor that it was a matter of fact.

*shrugs


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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 3:50:49 PM   
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I'm betting there's plenty of stuff you do and say that's pretty stupid as well.


And I bet he'd expect to be called on it if he did it in public.

Are you seriously saying everybody's opinion needs to respected by virtue of it being an opinion, Icarys? Even I'm not that PC...


Not sure what PC has to do with anything....

I guess me condemning those who condemn others is okay as well then? I mean those people are only giving opinions about someone, right?


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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 4:00:40 PM   
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Not sure what PC has to do with anything....

I guess me condemning those who condemn others is okay as well then? I mean those people are only giving opinions about someone, right?

You can condemn who you like-nobody on this thread has told you to stop talking, we're just disagreeing with you.

If someone makes what I think to be an incorrect assertion (e.g. doms are only doms cause they can't get laid otherwise) then I'm not just going to leave it be just because they put an IMO in front of it. I think I had this argument with Missokyst once-putting 'to me' or whatever in front of a statement doesn't mean you aren't actually making the statement.


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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 4:05:57 PM   
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Not sure what PC has to do with anything....

I guess me condemning those who condemn others is okay as well then? I mean those people are only giving opinions about someone, right?

You can condemn who you like-nobody on this thread has told you to stop talking, we're just disagreeing with you.

If someone makes what I think to be an incorrect assertion (e.g. doms are only doms cause they can't get laid otherwise) then I'm not just going to leave it be just because they put an IMO in front of it. I think I had this argument with Missokyst once-putting 'to me' or whatever in front of a statement doesn't mean you aren't actually making the statement.


As a personal rule I don't like condemning people...I have made exceptions for some in particular but truthfully, I know it's wrong to do. We've been through this, you and I. It doesn't always take a condemnation to get your point across. Does it.


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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 4:10:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		All I know is, on the train ride home, I was attracted to 8/10 young women present and one of them was trying to not let me catch her staring the entire time. I did not feel desperate. Although, she did make me kinda nervous at first.

Whatever; I forfeit being a true male dom if it means I have to appear desperate and never get intimidated by beautiful women.
What were the other options again??? You're telling me human male anything is desperate, now?
 
Alright, I choose to be an extraterrestrial switch. *Changes labels* All better.

Edit: Grammar. I got the hair color mixed up, too - shows how stupefied I may have been.

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RE: male doms: motivated by desperation? - 10/4/2010 4:16:29 PM   
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As a personal rule I don't like condemning people...I have made exceptions for some in particular but truthfully, I know it's wrong to do. We've been through this, you and I. It doesn't always take a condemnation to get your point across. Does it.

No, it doesn't. But it's not always about getting some point across-some people are just deeply unpleasant, and IMO the OP is one of them. I'm not going to sugarcoat that opinion. Now that might jar with your idea of right and wrong, but it doesn't really jar with mine-letting the opinion stand uncontested would jar with mine.


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