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NoirUMC -> Annoyed! (10/8/2010 6:22:56 AM)
The spam filter just prevented my sending a message to someone who's sent me three or four in the past week. I've not contacted ANYONE who I have not already been in ongoing communication with in the past two days. Yesterday it activated when I replied to a pair of messages with "good morning." Today, it's pretty sure that a discussion of latent D/s tendencies constitutes cut-and-paste spam. I'm getting a little tired of this trigger-happy software.

GreedyTop -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 6:27:21 AM)
this is something you should be taking to support,. not the message boards.

NoirUMC -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 6:38:40 AM)
Support has messages from me already. I do think it necessary to raise some awareness of this issue, however, as the last thread I saw on this subject closed with the consensus thata user is guilty if the software says so--that, in essence, an electric device that cannot read is somehow infallible. This idea is ridiculous for a number of reasons, the foremost of which being that it simply isn't true.

GreedyTop -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 6:39:43 AM)
yawn

barelynangel -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 6:40:57 AM)
Welcome to the new spam feature under report an email that i believe many people are or soon will be mis-using. OP, from what i am understanding people had to report your messages to them as "spam." From what i am understanding, the new spam features allows anyone who doesn't "like" a message for example one liners or one word emails, or i think any email as the site doesn't look at the messages is taking to reporting such messages as "spam" under the report button if they choose. Once you accumulate enough, your mail privileges all together are removed for a length of time, i believe. I could be wrong but that is what i understand how it works based on LadyPact's explanations in many threads over the last couple days. angel

NoirUMC -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 7:00:08 AM)
I'm sorry for being misinformed; I was uncertain of the level of human intervention in the process and I'm glad someone was able to point that put to me. I tend to just ignore unwanted mail and have never seen the button you mentioned. It's unfortunate the Help topic on this is not more enlightening. As I understand this, though, these people aren't misusing the feature. CM's policy on spam seems to encompass any initial contact by email--or that was what I took away from the discussion I read yesterday. Seems you need a second account to say hi to people, then. :)

pahunkboy -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 7:09:34 AM)
Maybe that software found your hat. !!!

LadyPact -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 7:13:43 AM)
The spam filter wouldn't have been activated if you hadn't been reported by the person you contacted. It doesn't have to be an initial contact. If you're just sending someone a one line message (such as "good morning") and they report you for it, that is how the spam filter is activated. Multiple reports will flag your outgoing emails with a banner that alerts others that you have been reported for sending spam. It's not a misuse of the feature. It is what it is designed to do. Help people eliminate the random messages that they do not want to receive.

NoirUMC -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 7:15:05 AM)
I hope someone finds my hat. :(

NoirUMC -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 7:23:18 AM)
My question is doesn't it also eliminate a feature of the website--even if it was an unintended feature? Seems like the ability to use CM to get in touch with likeminded people would be curtailed by that, given the relative proportions of "like-minded" to "uninterested." I might add that it's awfully hard to tell the difference between the two without talking to a person. And I realize that many of you make initial contact via these boards and are therefore unaffected--but you're just better than the rest, I suppose. :) I tend to become addicted to forums and, this, try to stay away.

DarkSteven -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 7:28:13 AM)
OP, the software either flags too many messages, or else does not flag enough. Software cannot develop a delicate sense of nuance. Just writing a "good morning" to people you don't really know might trigger it. Try longer messages to get to actually communicate with folks.

barelynangel -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 7:31:49 AM)
LP. If the site is revoking ALL mailing privileges because people who don't like a message and report it as spam. That IS misuse. The block feature is what helps eliminate random messages from people. You STILL will have to read and report messages wherein u don't like HOW the contacted u and report them as spam. So it's not eliminating random messages it's stopping people like the op who feel "good morning" is appropriate and it's not against the TOS to do. Yet the are going to get penalized cause u don't like their style. What's next grammar mistakes will be sent to spam cause someone doesn't LIKE that in a message? Angel

NoirUMC -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 7:36:36 AM)
Stephen: As mentioned by several above, software doesn't flag anything in this case. That was only a misconception on my part because of the way thus feature has been implemented; those were the messages I was sending when the first block occurred, but there is no way for me to know when or to whom I sent the messages which occasioned it.

DesFIP -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 7:36:54 AM)
If it's textspeak, it should be reported as spam.

Lockit -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 7:42:31 AM)
If I am remembering correctly, I thought Alpha said in the last thread about this that this feature is based on how many emails you are sending out. Many of us send out a lot of email and haven't been prevented from emailing, so if I am correct, someone has to send a lot of 'Good mornings' to call attention to themselves. It may be that reporting email is an aspect of it, but I really thought it was the numbers that mattered. I'm still in my morning fog, but that's what I'm remembering. lol If I knew the title of the thread I would search to find out what was said, but I don't remember that at all! Anyone remember the title of the thread?

NoirUMC -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 7:51:23 AM)
It isn't conceivable that such a feature could be based merely on numbers. A back-and-forth conversation between friends could easily reach into dozens of messages for both users in an afternoon. If numerical criteria are included, surely they must be more stringent. I would also point out that I have not been especially prolific lately, leading me to believe that it's probably the reporting feature that carries the most weight, even if the system tracks numbers.

barelynangel -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 7:52:21 AM)
Shouldn't the TOS clearly state then to people what types of messages are not acceptable IF the are going to start penalizing people. I mean while I don't like the 2 word or 1 liners. It's not stated the are prohibited by the website and mailers should not use them. If the website doesn't prohibit it and it's simple a preference of SOME people would rather NOT receive then they shouldn't be penalizing people or revoking their mailing ability. If it becomes against the TOS that's different and the will be evaluated as to whether it actually does.

NoirUMC -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 7:52:31 AM)
I have to wonder why we're speculating. This _must_ be fully documented somewhere.

pahunkboy -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 7:53:30 AM)
You could mention in your journal this trouble. Then your target might get in touch with you.

NoirUMC -> RE: Annoyed! (10/8/2010 7:55:08 AM)
I don't see how a message could ever be "wrong" based on length alone. As I mentioned, the "good morning" messages were sent to existing acquaintances and in response to similar messages; it's difficult to hold them up as examples of misbehavior even were they explicitly contraindicated in the TOS.

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