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Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 8:11:50 AM   
FirmhandKY


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Status: offline 		To all the people who defended ACORN so strongly: how do you react to this?

Milwaukee voter fraud conviction makes ACORN’s 2010 total at least 15
By Matthew Vadum - The Daily Caller | Published: 1:27 PM 11/23/2010 | Updated: 4:09 PM 11/23/2010

Yet another former ACORN employee was convicted of voter fraud last week. This brings the total number of convictions for former workers from the embattled group to at least 15 so far this year.

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So far 2010 has been a banner year for ACORN voter fraud prosecutions.

The article goes on to list the convictions.

Does this not point to a basic problem with the ethos and ethics of the organization?  Or is this just the result of political maneuvering on the part of ACORN opponents?

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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 8:43:42 AM   
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Does this not point to a basic problem with the ethos and ethics of the organization?  Or is this just the result of political maneuvering on the part of ACORN opponents?


Neither.

It was never "voter fraud" it was "voter's registration fraud". 

We have a handful of people scattered across the country who wanted to be paid for work they didn't do.  They duplicated names from each others list or just filled in names.

Normally they would just get fired or at worst have the company try and take the pay check back.  Since this involved voter registration their stupidity earned them an arrest. 

The people convicted were petty thieves who picked the wrong pocket.


Let's try the actual news.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/101418199.html

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-10-22/politics/voter.fraud_1_voter-registration-acorn-workers-number-of-swing-states?_s=PM:POLITICS


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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 8:44:06 AM   
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What dummies.

Everybody else outside of a cave knows by now that if you want to engage in voter fraud you join the Florida Republican party. Not a single conviction yet.


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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 8:49:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		out of 400,000 - 500,000 employees.... hmmmm... not seeing the widespread fraud yet. But, its always a possibility.

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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 9:01:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have never defended ACORN, don't much give a fuck.  They have a registration for get out the vote organization, I imagine that there are lazy people who do illegitimite things to get their numbers, as did some of our whizkids on the census, as do other not so democrat-identified organizations.

Why are so many of these former, or ex-? Is it possible some of these 15 out of  how many people worked for ACORN were let go for cause before they were stood next to the rope?  Wouldn't this be the time to argue that it was 'a few rogue operators' as was done for the soldiers of the United States convicted of torture and whatnot, that this in no way goes to the top or is policy? 

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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 9:24:19 AM   
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To all the people who defended ACORN so strongly:

And that was who, exactly?

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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 9:30:07 AM   
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To all the people who defended ACORN so strongly:

And that was who, exactly?

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Stef, there's two of them here but I'm not going to tell you who they are.

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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 9:40:25 AM   
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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 9:56:31 AM   
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What dummies.

Everybody else outside of a cave knows by now that if you want to engage in voter fraud you join the Florida Republican party. Not a single conviction yet.




Anyone with their head out of the sand knows you can't get a single conviction until after you've got at least one indictment.

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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 12:04:11 PM   
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Couple of independants?


But surely all of the Republicansindependents hate ACORN?

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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 12:08:34 PM   
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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 12:12:35 PM   
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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 12:30:04 PM   
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"Kevin L. Clancy of Milwaukee pleaded guilty last week to participating “in a scheme to submit fraudulent voter registration applications,” according to Wisconsin Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen. Clancy admitted to filing multiple voter registration applications for the same individuals and registering himself and other voter registration canvassers to vote multiple times while working on an ACORN voter drive.

Clancy received a 10-month prison term for his crime. Clancy’s sentence will begin when he completes another sentence he is currently serving for armed robbery.



The problem is, as previously stated, That CLancy was ripping off ACORN for work that he didn't do.


Poor Firm, once again unable to understand or even read the links he attaches.

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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 1:30:29 PM   
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Let's try the actual news.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/101418199.html

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-10-22/politics/voter.fraud_1_voter-registration-acorn-workers-number-of-swing-states?_s=PM:POLITICS



Are you trying to imply The Daily Caller is not actual news?

It's one of the finest news sources for the conservative mind.

It ranks right up there with The American Thinker, Rush Limbaugh, and Glenn Beck.

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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 1:42:05 PM   
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To all the people who defended ACORN so strongly:

And that was who, exactly?

~stef



Stef, there's two of them here but I'm not going to tell you who they are.


Popeye, it's not nice to keep secrets.

Especially when you give out a teaser.

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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 1:46:00 PM   
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Anyone with their head out of the sand knows you can't get a single conviction until after you've got at least one indictment.


Stick with NASCAR Jimbo.


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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 2:54:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is an article from the Daily Caller lol and the ahole from kty acts as if this is real journalism. Even if 15 of the thousands of ACORN workers were convicted - that's probably not close to the number of Kentuckians who would be convicted of having sex with their teen age children - if only it were illegal there.

I don't care for ACORN but they don't really bother me. If they get more Americans involved -ok.

The 100,000 civilians Bush bombed to death is of much more concern and the Dems who supported him are equally bad.

its pretty short sighted for rednecks like this Kentucky guy to complain about liberals because the religious right, if they were in power would castrate him for his lifestyle.

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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 3:12:17 PM   
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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 3:27:20 PM   
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This is an article from the Daily Caller lol and the ahole from kty acts as if this is real journalism. Even if 15 of the thousands of ACORN workers were convicted - that's probably not close to the number of Kentuckians who would be convicted of having sex with their teen age children - if only it were illegal there.

I don't care for ACORN but they don't really bother me. If they get more Americans involved -ok.

The 100,000 civilians Bush bombed to death is of much more concern and the Dems who supported him are equally bad.

its pretty short sighted for rednecks like this Kentucky guy to complain about liberals because the religious right, if they were in power would castrate him for his lifestyle.

thompsonx?

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RE: Acorn's 2010 Convictions - 11/24/2010 3:30:45 PM   
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