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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 1:17:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's the hypocrisy that gets me every time. The establishment whine about the 'violent tactics' employed by some activists at protests against various government austerity measures dumbassery, but they skip over the actual violence done in their name when it comes to having people evicted from their homes by force (as they surely will do) and the metaphorical violence implied by the cuts.

Personally, I have no problem with Protesters responding to government dumbassery with the occasional bit of physical confrontation. We know the bastards won't listen to reasoned argument, so maybe they'll listen to the sound of breaking glass? It worked when the Tory Poll Tax was imposed on us.

Fuck 'em. Hang the bastard bankers!

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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 1:24:48 PM   
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do ya think austerity will play here?  


NOPE.

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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 1:27:19 PM   
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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 1:34:29 PM   
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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 4:15:07 PM   
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Personally, I have no problem with Protesters responding to government dumbassery with the occasional bit of physical confrontation. We know the bastards won't listen to reasoned argument, so maybe they'll listen to the sound of breaking glass? It worked when the Tory Poll Tax was imposed on us.

Fuck 'em. Hang the bastard bankers!



So whats your solution to deal with the deficit, where would you let the axe fall ? As an aside, nothing worked with the poll tax riots, they just got renamed.

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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 4:18:41 PM   
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No, the Police work for the establishment in order to enforce the status quo.


So you wont call them if you get robbed then ?

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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 4:19:57 PM   
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London's Burning - The Clash


Mick Jones went to a grammar school.....

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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 4:20:18 PM   
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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 4:21:25 PM   
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Mick Jones went to a grammar school.....

Yep, and Joe Strummer was hardly a prole, either. Great song, though.

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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 4:24:14 PM   
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I didn't say that. Dealing with robberies is one way of enforcing the status quo, isn't it?


Dealing with robberies is one way of dealing with criminals. Some toerag nicking my tv is just a pain in the arse and in no way affects the status quo.

Blair should have stayed out of Iraq and ploughed the cash into education,  then no one would have to pay school fees.

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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 4:27:52 PM   
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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 4:28:02 PM   
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Burning with anger: London streets in flames again as 25,000 go on rampage in new student fees riot


*Chortle*

You do make me grin sometimes The Daily Mail, in case you didn't know, is a paper so right wing it makes neo-Nazis look like choirboys.

And 25,000 did not "go on rampage" - even the Mail says there were only 10,000 in London (at best), and only 25,000 nationwide, so how did the they all go "on rampage" at the same time? Nor were the "streets in flames". A few hot heads set light to an empty police van, got arrested, and plod then capped the demo, and that was that. Very little happened.

I live here, FFS. It's London. We're Londoners. Terrorist bombs couldn't even slow us down, we were out the day after. A few pissed-off soap-dodgers is non-news.

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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 4:29:35 PM   
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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 4:29:53 PM   
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No, the Police work for the establishment in order to enforce the status quo.


So you wont call them if you get robbed then ?


To be fair, if you live in London, you're "served" by the Met. They're so hopeless a police "service" that there's not actually a lot of point calling them for any crime.

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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 4:30:40 PM   
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Terrorist bombs couldn't even slow us down, we were out the day after.

Some of us had to get home the same damn day
that was a freaking nightmare


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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 4:32:19 PM   
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I thought they always were in your world.


My initial look at this, I do not detect agent provocateurs.



How the fuck would you know one way or the other?

Dude, seriously, you have issues. Get em sorted eh? It can't be much fun living in your head.

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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 4:33:57 PM   
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I only know as Mick was two years below me at school in Brixton and played music with a few of the guys I did. My reason for being asked to join the guys sessions was I had a premier drum kit. I wanted to play Soul and Reggae, they wanted to play punk, not that they had a name for it then.

Cool. This was back before they'd got into bed with McClaren and Rhodes, and were still a New York Dolls tribute band then?

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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 4:34:21 PM   
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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 4:36:36 PM   
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I only know as Mick was two years below me at school in Brixton and played music with a few of the guys I did. My reason for being asked to join the guys sessions was I had a premier drum kit. I wanted to play Soul and Reggae, they wanted to play punk, not that they had a name for it then.

Cool. This was back before they'd got into bed with McClaren and Rhodes, and were still a New York Dolls tribute band then?


Yes, before that Mick was in a band called London SS for a bit. Ironically I also grew up playing football with two of the UK Subs.

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RE: Burning with anger: London streets in flames again ... - 11/25/2010 4:36:45 PM   
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Terrorist bombs couldn't even slow us down, we were out the day after.

Some of us had to get home the same damn day
that was a freaking nightmare



Yes the transport system wasn't at its best that day. Understandable though.

The thing that summed it up for me was the TV news were out the day after, doing the usual vox pop piece to camera. They stopped an old boy, 80 if he was a day, and asked if he had changed his travel plans as a result of the bombings. His reply, bleeped though it was, made me both laugh and feel proud to be a Londoner:

"Nah. F**k em. Bunch of wankers. I walk where I f**king well choose."

And, with that, he toddled off

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