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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/13/2010 4:01:24 PM   
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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/13/2010 4:03:06 PM   
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"Dagoes".
If you're going to use racial epiphets, get them right, eh?


Well it certainly supports my theory that bigots are ignorant


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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/14/2010 1:10:24 PM   
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Well the way I see it, they're either anti-Semites or anti-American. There's no way those daygos could be acting out of any sense of right or wrong...

Is that about right?

Wow, you mean South American nations with a history of fascist leanings and repeated conflicts with the US might be anti semitic and anti american? Next thing you know people will be saying there is a quaint bavarian village in argentina full of nazis and descendants of nazis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Argentine


So - they're either anti-Semites or anti-American. There's no way those daygos could be acting out of any sense of right or wrong...

Where did I say anything of the sort? Why do you continue to make up lies about others?


So you're not saying that the decision by the Argentinians to recognise Palestine is about anti-Semitism or anti-Americanism?

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Wow, you mean South American nations with a history of fascist leanings and repeated conflicts with the US might be anti semitic and anti american? Next thing you know people will be saying there is a quaint bavarian village in argentina full of nazis and descendants of nazis.


What does this mean then? It sure sounds like a ridiculous conspiracy theory to me.

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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/14/2010 1:13:45 PM   
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"Dagoes".
If you're going to use racial epiphets, get them right, eh?


Well it certainly supports my theory that bigots are ignorant



I don't think I've ever seen you post more than a single-line reply to anyone. And I'm sure I've never seen you use punctuation. Somehow, I doubt if there's enough going on in there for you to have a theory about anything.

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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/14/2010 1:14:52 PM   
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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/14/2010 1:18:48 PM   
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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/14/2010 1:21:35 PM   
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Right. So you did mean what I supposed you to mean then? Make your mind up!

No. You seem unable to understand subtlety. Until you can understand the difference between 'a cause' and 'the cause' you might want to stop posting.

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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/14/2010 1:30:33 PM   
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Right. So you did mean what I supposed you to mean then? Make your mind up!

No. You seem unable to understand subtlety. Until you can understand the difference between 'a cause' and 'the cause' you might want to stop posting.


Oh, right - so the inherent anti-Semitism of the Nazi-hiding daygo nations is only part of the reason for them backing Palestine?

What do you think the rest of it is down to, then?

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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/14/2010 2:22:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		America is Israel's bitch.
The dagoes don't like America, so they're recognising Palestine to spite Israel and (by proxy) America.
That's why they're making an issue of this rather than (say) the plight of the white Zaireans who were forcibly deported around the turn of the millennium, China's occupation of Thibet or our occupation of Ulster.
It's hardly rocket science is it?

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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/14/2010 2:36:23 PM   
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America is Israel's bitch.
The dagoes don't like America, so they're recognising Palestine to spite Israel and (by proxy) America.
That's why they're making an issue of this rather than (say) the plight of the white Zaireans who were forcibly deported around the turn of the millennium, China's occupation of Thibet or our occupation of Ulster.
It's hardly rocket science is it?


For sure, if you believe that, then you don't need to worry yourself with questioning what Israel is getting up to, do you?








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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/15/2010 12:44:46 AM   
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America is Israel's bitch.


You're spot on about that!

But what does the USA get out of its alliance with Israel?

If the aim of US policy is to keep the Middle East seriously destabilised, you would have to concede it's been spectacularly successful. That aside what advantages does the US get? Is there a significant upside?

Or is it all one-way traffic? Are the Israelis laughing all the way to the (west) bank?

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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/15/2010 1:02:09 AM   
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legitimate criticism? Maybe but do not try and white wash facts. Erdogan is a fundamentalist Muslim who has expressed repeatedly his desire to eliminate Israel. He has also allied his party with the syrian government (well known sponsors of terror).

Turkey is likely to be the next islamic nation to fall to a theocratic revolution and it is mostly the fault of the AK Party (ne Welfare Party which was banned). (emphasis added)



Really? I've never heard this. I'm sure you have some good evidence to support your claims. And I'm sure I'd like to see your evidence please.

Last time I checked, the IDF and Turkish armies were engaged in military co-operation (before the peace boat massacre) and Turkey was Israel's closest friend in the region (not that there's much competition for that title). And Syria and Turkey have a common border, a common religion (and have a common history of participation in the Armenian genocide too) they are neighbours so of course they share some interests.

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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/15/2010 4:57:52 AM   
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America is Israel's bitch.
The dagoes don't like America, so they're recognising Palestine to spite Israel and (by proxy) America.
That's why they're making an issue of this rather than (say) the plight of the white Zaireans who were forcibly deported around the turn of the millennium, China's occupation of Thibet or our occupation of Ulster.
It's hardly rocket science is it?


For sure, if you believe that, then you don't need to worry yourself with questioning what Israel is getting up to, do you?


And the dagoes aren't too fussed about what anywhere other than Israel is up to.
Come to that, none of the countries named in the OP seem to give a shit what's going on in the country next door.


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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/15/2010 10:28:48 AM   
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legitimate criticism? Maybe but do not try and white wash facts. Erdogan is a fundamentalist Muslim who has expressed repeatedly his desire to eliminate Israel. He has also allied his party with the syrian government (well known sponsors of terror).

Turkey is likely to be the next islamic nation to fall to a theocratic revolution and it is mostly the fault of the AK Party (ne Welfare Party which was banned). (emphasis added)



Really? I've never heard this. I'm sure you have some good evidence to support your claims. And I'm sure I'd like to see your evidence please.

Last time I checked, the IDF and Turkish armies were engaged in military co-operation (before the peace boat massacre) and Turkey was Israel's closest friend in the region (not that there's much competition for that title). And Syria and Turkey have a common border, a common religion (and have a common history of participation in the Armenian genocide too) they are neighbours so of course they share some interests.

Pretty easy to google Erdogan and Israel
http://www.google.com/#q=erdogan+israel&hl=en&prmd=ivnu&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&ei=RQgJTbSgFcH38Abiv9h9&sa=X&oi=news_group&ct=title&resnum=3&sqi=2&ved=0CDYQqAIwAg&fp=8485776d0b967d6a

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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/15/2010 10:31:18 AM   
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Right. So you did mean what I supposed you to mean then? Make your mind up!

No. You seem unable to understand subtlety. Until you can understand the difference between 'a cause' and 'the cause' you might want to stop posting.


Oh, right - so the inherent anti-Semitism of the Nazi-hiding daygo nations is only part of the reason for them backing Palestine?

What do you think the rest of it is down to, then?


Maybe you should learn some history and you'll be able to stop asking dumb questions.

I recommend studying up on the "movement of the non aligned."

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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/15/2010 1:00:27 PM   
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Right. So you did mean what I supposed you to mean then? Make your mind up!

No. You seem unable to understand subtlety. Until you can understand the difference between 'a cause' and 'the cause' you might want to stop posting.


Oh, right - so the inherent anti-Semitism of the Nazi-hiding daygo nations is only part of the reason for them backing Palestine?

What do you think the rest of it is down to, then?


Maybe you should learn some history and you'll be able to stop asking dumb questions.

I recommend studying up on the "movement of the non aligned."


I don't think you have the slightest idea what you are saying, now. For a while it looked like you were explaining the South American nations recognition of Israel as anti-Semitism due to hidden Nazis and stuff, but then you suggested that anti-Semitism is only a part of the reason for their action, and when you are asked what you think the other bit of their reasoning might be, you describe the question as 'dumb'. Why is it dumb to ask you what your opinion is?

Oh, actually, forget it - now I've said it out loud, I know exactly why.

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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/15/2010 2:21:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's dumb because you claim to be knowledgeable about the politics surounding the Israel/Arab conflict.

If you actually knew anything about the history of the conflict it would be obvious that prominent members of the movement of non aligned nations supporting a palestine state is part of the movements long held goals. You're probably so uninformed that you don't even understand the reason that the UN GA consistently condemns Israel is about the politics of the movement.

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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/15/2010 4:06:13 PM   
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legitimate criticism? Maybe but do not try and white wash facts. Erdogan is a fundamentalist Muslim who has expressed repeatedly his desire to eliminate Israel. He has also allied his party with the syrian government (well known sponsors of terror).

Turkey is likely to be the next islamic nation to fall to a theocratic revolution and it is mostly the fault of the AK Party (ne Welfare Party which was banned). (emphasis added)



Really? I've never heard this. I'm sure you have some good evidence to support your claims. And I'm sure I'd like to see your evidence please.

Last time I checked, the IDF and Turkish armies were engaged in military co-operation (before the peace boat massacre) and Turkey was Israel's closest friend in the region (not that there's much competition for that title). And Syria and Turkey have a common border, a common religion (and have a common history of participation in the Armenian genocide too) they are neighbours so of course they share some interests.

Pretty easy to google Erdogan and Israel
http://www.google.com/#q=erdogan+israel&hl=en&prmd=ivnu&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&ei=RQgJTbSgFcH38Abiv9h9&sa=X&oi=news_group&ct=title&resnum=3&sqi=2&ved=0CDYQqAIwAg&fp=8485776d0b967d6a



I googled the link you supplied and guess what; no evidence that i could find to support your claim. I stopped looking after i found a link to an article outlining Netnayahu's thanks to Turkey and Erdogan for their help during the recent fires in Israel.*

It appears at this stage that there isn't any evidence to support your claim. Such evidence as there is suggests that your claim is unlikely to be true.

To date, on this thread alone, your claims in relation to Israel's scorched earth policy, it's policy of colonising the West Bank and now that Erdogan seeks the destruction of Israel have all proved to be false. At the moment I am wondering whether you are making all this up, or perhaps you are grossly misinformed or totally in denial. You might like to think about the damage such consistent falsehoods do to your credibility.

It's pretty clear that your sources of information are, at best, woefully inaccurate, that you need to acquaint yourself with the facts not Israeli propaganda and then need to re-think your entire attitude to the Palestine question. The reality of the situation there and Israeli accounts/propaganda are simply incompatible.

I wish you well in what could be a sobering challenging exercise for you.




*http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3993668,00.html

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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/15/2010 10:53:23 PM   
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http://www.smh.com.au/world/eu-threat-to-recognise-palestine-as-a-nation-20101214-18wxe.html

So it's now has spread to a new continent .........

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RE: Palestine recognised by South American nations. - 12/16/2010 5:53:09 AM   
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"Dagoes".
If you're going to use racial epiphets, get them right, eh?


Well it certainly supports my theory that bigots are ignorant



I don't think I've ever seen you post more than a single-line reply to anyone. And I'm sure I've never seen you use punctuation. Somehow, I doubt if there's enough going on in there for you to have a theory about anything.




So you are saying you have a memory problem and it's not ignorance? Naw, I think I am going to stick with my first impression. I have read too many of your posts to feel any different.


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