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CreativeDominant -> RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot (1/11/2011 8:12:17 AM)
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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
Actually, I would say you are right only in Panda's use of the general "we". A majority of voters are content with the decision to allow a culture in which the citizens have the right to keep and bear arms. That results in some occasions like this nutcase over the weekend. The price of freedom...
Considering that no one has ever voted on it, I have to wonder how you determined the majority are content with it. Because in most areas of the country where they have tried to enact restriction of guns, those in favor of the restrictions have never been able to get their more restrictive measures passed. Some control...sure. Full control? Not yet....
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As for your earlier assertion re: this being due to the inflammatory rhetoric of right-wing conservatives? See my post regarding that...and listen to anyone with sense. Free speech is just that...free speech. While I may not like what Hillary or Obama or Olbermann or Michael Moore have to say, as long as they are not inciting left-wing riots they have a right to say it. Ward Churchill, with his call to take to the streets, may be a different case. I don't agree with all that Beck or Limbaugh or G. Will have to say either, but as long as they are not encouraging violence...and don't run through that tired bullshit about Palin's crosshairs, please...they have a right to say it. This nut was responsible for his own actions...and given that his favorite reading material, as reported by various folks in the mass media, seemed to be centered around the Communist Manifesto and one of his favorite activities appeared to be smoking pot, the argument could be made that he is more left than right. From there, it would be just as easy to cite "leftist" sources for his dissatisfaction with a "progressive" who did not stand far enough to the left...and it would be a wrong citation.
I don't even know where to begin with this.
Okay, let's start here:
"....and one of his favorite activities appeared to be smoking pot, the argument could be made that he is more left than right."
Soooooooooooo...........................conservatives don't smoke weed? Is that what you really want to argue? Show me where I said it and I will argue it. But I did not. Can you deny that it is an activity found more commonly among those professing "progressive" thought?
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But let's move on to the more interesting parts of your post.
On one hand you are defending the right to free speech, which I agree with.
But on the other hand you are trying to deny that people are influenced by what they hear. Again, you need to read what I write. I do not deny that people are influenced by what they hear and that some people hear things wrongly. However...it is once again one of the consequences of the liberties we enjoy, including the liberty of free speech.
I do find it funny that the left...while crying out against censorship when those on the right say there should not be a movie about assassination of G. Bush or who state that tax dollars should not go to artistic depictions of Christ in urine or who advocate against violent video games or movies LOVE to point to talk show hosts, NONE of whom are advocating or urging their audience to take violent measures against others, and say that THEY are the cause of violence in America. It is as ludicrous as saying that some video game or that the movie about assassinating G. Bush would have been responsible for some person committing murder. The person commiting the act is responsible...not the game, not the movie, not the talk show hosts.
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And yes, regarding what Palin said, while not directly encouraging violence, it is not hard to see how someone who is mentally unstable to begin with would take this as encouragement.
Dem lawmaker takes exception with Palin 'reload' comment
Palin tweeted Tuesday about the passage of the healthcare reform bill into law:Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page
I will say it again...I do NOT want to see a country that becomes so milk-pure that nothing that could possibly be seen as offensive to someone is made illegal. You have the right to not like what I say...but as long as I am not telling you to go out and murder or rape or rob someone, then you have no right to tell me what I can say. And the answer of blaming rhetoric is about as sensible as blaming the movies and the video games and everything else that the left defends as being "freedom of expression"
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