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RE: Hello, new here..question for anyone willing.. - 1/11/2011 12:59:25 AM   
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Don't sweat it. Worrying just makes it worse and it'll make you skiddish about it. You are the counsellor as a Parent, if you need help then you do, but I wouldn't break out the thorazine just yet.

First of all 14 year old kids are alot more savvy then most think. Need a Windows password cracked, a cellphone programmed, an ipod loaded with unlicensed tunes? Get the kids to do it. Years ago it was they who had to teach Parents how to program the timer on a VCR. You can't keep much away from them. At 14 most of them should be working for the NSA, like safecrackers who went straight and worked with safe manufacturers.

This is no worse than them finding porn magazines really, the big issue is the divorce. Ever have your Parents get divorced ? It sucks. So here's the kid thinking "Great, and now this". The nuclear family is gone, those days are over and if you wanted the "white picket fence" sorry about your luck. There are many worse things in life.

However she does not see it that way. If possible you are the one to teach her that life is not a rose garden, and the divorce will certainly accomplish that. This issue just puts a little kink into the picture - no pun intended. What has happened has happened. The thing is with the divorce coming she is already in a world of shit. How would it be for example, if she walked in and Daddy had you strung up on a chandelier and was whipping you like a pinata ? Wouldn't be as bad would it ? The divorce sucks more by several orders of magnitude.

When my Parents got divorced I would've given my left nut to get them back together even though he was a drunk at the time and killing her emotionally. I didn't see it that way at the time. She is pissed because you are breaking the home into pieces. When anyone gets into that state, a straw can break the camel's back. After the divorce is she going to have to live with this guy ? Where will Dad be ? Is he going to be nice or an ass ? She is unsecure as hell right now, and she came by it honestly. Downplay the kink, upplay the guidance you owe her. Who will she want to live with after the divorce and why ? Can she forgive you for breaking up her home ? And yes it is HER home. Get that through your hed. The kink doesn't mean shit compared to that.

Maybe it's time to blow the lid off, only you can say. If the kink is that much of an issue, exposure can help to downplay it. This is dangerous territory here, but anyone can go on the internet and find all kinds of kinky porn. Kids included. Hard to believe it really doesn't matter isn't it ? She may have found you on myface or spacebook or any of the other sites which allow people to destroy their own privacy sphere. It is not the main issue. Her life is going to be torn up, why ? Right now somebody must be to blame, and as far as she's concerned that would be you.

Get down to the heart of the matter. She needs to blame someone to avoid blaming herself. You can't expect her to have the maturity to avoid that psychological reaction. So guess what - you're it. Can you explain just why you are getting divorced ? What is wrong ? You must be truthful and hopefully you haven't lied yet. These brats will tear you apart, they are uncannily able to see through a facade.

Really though, if you are getting divorced simply because you found someone else, you are in deep shit. For some reason if that's true, you were unfulfilled, you need to explain that. And that you only live once. That could be tricky and she may see you as selfish. That's the risk. Welcome to life.

But the fact is you can explain it better than anyone behind a desk. Of course you should consider a professional counsellor, but go there yourself first. And you have to try to deal with this yourself first.

You must. Not because YOU are troubled, because SHE is troubled. It's your job, seeking a hundred buck an hour sounding board is a backup. It may be that she just won't talk to you. I don't mean the cold shoulder, but that there are certain things she won't tell you. That's where the pros come in. Like I said, it is not time to rush to the thorazine store.

Keep us "posted" and good luck.

T

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RE: Hello, new here..question for anyone willing.. - 1/11/2011 5:54:00 PM   
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wandersalone, that was actually my point; I had expressed my opinion on the OP early in this thread and apparently everyone thinks I am some evil bitch who was mean to the poor woman.

Sorry, but I maintain my view that this situation is ridiculous and of the OP's own making. For her to come to the message board instead of dealing with the family matter within the family is nuts.


Maybe she's doing both. There are 24 hours in a day, and it only takes a half of one to fire off a few questions on a message board to see whether other people on that particular board have dealt with the same situation in the past. The issue she's dealing with relates to alternative sexuality, and if she's anything like most people who are relatively new to the world of alternative sexuality, she probably doesn't have a lot of friends with whom she can discuss this. This seems like a reasonable resource for someone in her position to tap into.


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RE: Hello, new here..question for anyone willing.. - 1/11/2011 6:07:07 PM   
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Excellent point, Panda. I speak only for myself, that sometimes you ask questions on the boards and get answers on the flip side. Not everyone puts the detailed replies on here when someone asks a question or wants to know of a resource in their area. I know that I don't. I reply over there ----->>

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RE: Hello, new here..question for anyone willing.. - 1/11/2011 7:54:58 PM   
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Here's how my parents explained the divorce to me when I was a young stalker:

Two Christmas'.

It will work. It always works.

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RE: Hello, new here..question for anyone willing.. - 1/12/2011 6:22:31 AM   
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Hi, just wanted everyone to know that we are going to counceling. I will be deleting my acct here. I will try to save the marriage, see what happens there. I figured this way at least we can't say we didnt try and if it doesn't work I can move on. Take care everyone.

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RE: Hello, new here..question for anyone willing.. - 1/12/2011 6:29:18 AM   
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Hi, just wanted everyone to know that we are going to counceling. I will be deleting my acct here. I will try to save the marriage, see what happens there. I figured this way at least we can't say we didnt try and if it doesn't work I can move on. Take care everyone.


Good luck to all of you.  And I just wanted to add that your husband is showing a good deal of maturity here - life has given him several ways to get back at you right now, and he hasn't taken them.

If the BDSM issue is one of the incompatibilities, I'd advise a kink-friendly therapist.


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RE: Hello, new here..question for anyone willing.. - 1/12/2011 8:00:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SirsSub63

Hi, just wanted everyone to know that we are going to counceling. I will be deleting my acct here. I will try to save the marriage, see what happens there. I figured this way at least we can't say we didnt try and if it doesn't work I can move on. Take care everyone.


Thank you for coming back to let us know. There have been some very insightful posts here & I hope you had the time to read them. I for one am glad that you are doing the mature thing in trying to keep your family intact. It may or may not work, but give it an honest try. I wish you the best.

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RE: Hello, new here..question for anyone willing.. - 1/12/2011 8:03:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SirsSub63

Hi, just wanted everyone to know that we are going to counceling. I will be deleting my acct here. I will try to save the marriage, see what happens there. I figured this way at least we can't say we didnt try and if it doesn't work I can move on. Take care everyone.

Makes sense. One has to at least try.

Best of luck.

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RE: Hello, new here..question for anyone willing.. - 1/12/2011 8:13:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

Excellent point, Panda. I speak only for myself, that sometimes you ask questions on the boards and get answers on the flip side. Not everyone puts the detailed replies on here when someone asks a question or wants to know of a resource in their area. I know that I don't. I reply over there ----->>

~ DRH

(to the other Red One, with all due respect, sometimes a little sensitivity, even when you want to shake the sense into someone goes a long way... it's what I have to do as a Mom all the time, which is all I was saying)


I assume you mean me, DRH and I do understand your point. I am actually a very sensitive person and empathetic. We all make tons of mistakes in our lives and I get that. However, when someone posts on a message board, I am all for free speech both in the questions and the replies.

I don't alter my replies for anyone; if someone feels my replies are too insensitive or blunt, then that is cool. Others like what I say, that is what makes a message board go round.

We cannot all agree on things and I am fine with that, as you should be as well.

Oh, as for being a Mom and having to use tact with your kids, that is a far cry from coddling strangers on a message board. I have posted a long time and I have given great advice when I feel the situation warrants it.

Best of luck to the OP and her daughter.

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RE: Hello, new here..question for anyone willing.. - 1/12/2011 8:47:43 AM   
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At her age, I would suggest you go find a councillor together(you and her or familly) and also let her go to one alone... her school may have one or try a local childrens chariety for advice.

I agree with this. Your daughter is probably more upset with the breakup of the parents than the fact of what you are doing, or was about to do.

The key thing here make sure there isn't anger 'at' you for this. When I divorced, my daughter went balistic at my ex, for reasons I won't post here. If you were planning a divorce, even without your daughter finding your account here, you should also be planning on counseling to handle all the issues.

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RE: Hello, new here..question for anyone willing.. - 1/12/2011 9:00:31 AM   
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Glad to hear that the OP is willing to give her marriage the attempt at saving it that the family deserves.  Along with closing the profile, might want to think about deleting the mail/chat ID that was being used to communicate with the cyber Dom as well.  Yes, do the decent thing and write a message explaining why it is over.  (It was never an in person relationship, so it doesn't warrant anything more than that.)  Fully invest in the marriage and family counseling without outside influence.


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RE: Hello, new here..question for anyone willing.. - 1/12/2011 3:28:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LinnaeaBorealis

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirsSub63

Hi, just wanted everyone to know that we are going to counceling. I will be deleting my acct here. I will try to save the marriage, see what happens there. I figured this way at least we can't say we didnt try and if it doesn't work I can move on. Take care everyone.


Thank you for coming back to let us know. There have been some very insightful posts here & I hope you had the time to read them. I for one am glad that you are doing the mature thing in trying to keep your family intact. It may or may not work, but give it an honest try. I wish you the best.


I second this.

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RE: Hello, new here..question for anyone willing.. - 1/12/2011 3:36:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I assume you mean me, DRH and I do understand your point. I am actually a very sensitive person and empathetic. We all make tons of mistakes in our lives and I get that. However, when someone posts on a message board, I am all for free speech both in the questions and the replies.

I don't alter my replies for anyone; if someone feels my replies are too insensitive or blunt, then that is cool. Others like what I say, that is what makes a message board go round.

We cannot all agree on things and I am fine with that, as you should be as well.

Oh, as for being a Mom and having to use tact with your kids, that is a far cry from coddling strangers on a message board. I have posted a long time and I have given great advice when I feel the situation warrants it.

Best of luck to the OP and her daughter.


I am, SR1. It's all good. I speak my mind, too (it's the nature of our redheadedness).

Some of my dearest real-time friends from here and I are polar opposites on some topics, but it doesn't mean that we don't think highly of one another. I was simply exercising my posting "right" as well when I said what I did. It's nothing more than that.

I also agree that the OP and her daughter are in my thoughts for a good outcome.

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